Michael Kennedy, Secretary Wokingham UKIP, has written this Open Letter to Henry Bolton:
Dear Henry,
This is the big question: are we going to leave the EU? Sorry to say this but the answer is: no, not while Theresa May is PM.
This conclusion is inevitable if one studies Mrs May’s actions since she was appointed. Look at what she has done, not at what she says:
CABINET APPOINTMENTS:
Out of 23 Cabinet positions there are only seven who believe in Brexit. Even Andrea Leadsom has been moved into a post outside the Cabinet. Surely May should have appointed 50% proven and declared leavers.
ARTICLE 50 LETTER:
Mrs May was so anxious to stress the importance of parallel Trade discussions that it was requested at least eight times. These are extracts illustrating it:
- “We therefore believe it is necessary to agree the terms of our future partnership alongside those of our withdrawal from the European Union.”
- “The Government wants to approach our discussions ……giving …. businesses in the United Kingdom …. as much certainty as possible, as early as possible.”
- “To achieve this, we believe it is necessary to agree the terms of our future partnership alongside those of our withdrawal from the EU.”
She should have stated her requirements once so the position would be clear and the EU would know immediately what it was up against. If the UK had chosen to walk away it would immediately have revealed the level, or lack, of confidence within the EU and may well have resulted in EU retreat allowing the UK to then take control of proceedings. However, Mrs May chose to reveal her utter weakness and absence of resolve and gave in to the EU demands while placing no conditions on the EU. This left the UK at a distinct disadvantage and served to illustrate the incompetence or duplicity of Mrs May.
ONE SUCCESS:
It appears that David Davis was carrying out his task in a manner that would be expected. On the subject of the money, it emerged in media reports that he had asked the EU, quite reasonably, to state what payments the UK should make, the purpose, legal basis and any justification. On receiving no meaningful response it is reported one member of the UK team, a lawyer, gave a presentation that showed once it had left in March 2019 there was no reason for the UK to make any further payments. The EU then appeared to be throwing a tantrum due to the UK side’s unwillingness to submit to their unfounded financial demands.
THAT SPEECH IN FLORENCE:
Her miserable Florence speech and lack of basic management ability illustrate clearly that Mrs May is either utterly incompetent or is trying to deceive and betray the British people. What she should have done was to fully support her negotiating team, make the UK position clear and demand that the EU reconsider. Rather than reaffirm the UK’s strength and confidence she went to great length to make concessions in an embarrassingly submissive way to convert one little moment of success into abysmal failure. One could say she stabbed David Davis and his team in the back.
May offered to continue payments up to the end of the current budgetary period, and to repeat her request for a “transition” period of “about” two years on “current terms”. Is she secretly trying to extend UK commitment, not membership, further and possibly indefinitely?
NEGOTIATING STANCE:
There was no need for the UK to make concessions at this stage. Any sensible business person would, when making such massive and generous offers, expect and ask for something in return, a quid pro quo. The only demands or requests she made of the EU were to ask for ” Co-operation”, “partnership” and “creativity”. How pathetic can it get?
She could have said something along the lines of:
“The UK will offer to make contributions to the EU until the end of the current budgetary period provided:
- the EU commence discussions immediately about the future trade arrangements;
- The UK will be free to negotiate and conclude its own trade agreements with other countries during the implementation period;
- The UK will not be obliged to make contribution payments during the implementation period.”
May has been heard pleading with the EU to allow the talks to “accelerate”. It seems all she can do is plead, beg, implore and entreat. She doesn’t have a clue how to negotiate, she doesn’t recognise her own advantage when it is put on a plate in front of her. All this “incompetence” may be deliberate, a deception in plain sight in order to deceive the British people.
This is not a negotiation; it is a slow and continuous capitulation!
REMAINER OR LEAVER?
Her body language betrays the truth: she is an unreformed remainer. It is now reported that she asked the EU at dinner in Brussels for a deal that she could “sell” to the British public, as reported by the BBC. It is astonishing that she can be so blatant in her contempt for her own electorate and so blasé about not working to get “the best deal for Britain”. This surely must be the final confirmation that Theresa May is not working in the interests of the UK and is either incompetent or duplicitous.
UKIP:
It is important that the UK wakes up to what May is doing. This is an inviting opportunity for our new leader and the whole leadership team to act with the utmost urgency. UKIP must do whatever it takes to open the eyes of the British public to Theresa May’s incompetence or duplicity.
The truth must be revealed and UKIP must demand that May be removed and replaced with a Proven Brexiteer with the ability and determination to take over and do the job fully and properly. This is our golden opportunity to regain credibility and presence in the public consciousness, and perhaps replenish ourselves and grow again into an established and respected Political Force.
Respectfully, Michael Kennedy, Secretary Wokingham UKIP
The following website Free Nations has just updated information on who the Brexit wreckers are and how they intend to reverse the referendum result.
Please read and circulate as widely as possible.
Thanks Graham Wood (York)
http://freenations.net/target-the-mps-sabotageing-brexit/
Thanks Graham.
Somehow a message needs to be sent to constituents of each of the saboteur MPs; mostly well known Remoaners. Their constituents, and it can only be their constituents, must question their MPs on their motives and justification for attempting to frustrate the will of the people and put pressure on them.
In a BBC radio interview this week Keir Starmer stated that “We need a deal that we hope will last for 30 or 40 years”. The interviewer never asked him to expand on this statement. Will UKIP ?
Michael’s point is spot on. We don’t bother “holding May’s feet to the fire” or any such like. We tell the people of this country what is going on in front of their eyes. Don’t bother with the politicians statements. Get all the MEPs to provide proper feedback on the latest moves (outside brexit negotiations) which are tying us to the EU to such an extent that in future it will be easier to rejoin than extricate ourselves.
No more “Brexit means Brexit, it must be “Brexit means EXIT”.
Get MEP’s to help with Brexit? That’s turkeys voting for Christmas.
Not asking them to vote. UKIP MEPs have a duty. Their days are numbered anyway.
I think William means we should be able to rely on UKIP, and ex-UKIP, MEPs to provide feedback on EU manoeuvres aiming to keep the UK entangled.
Dear Michael (Kennedy),
Your article would be great for a UKIP newspaper.
Here are the actions needed, all by the leader, unless he assigns the work to someone else.
• Appoint one NEC member to be in charge of newspapers.
• Define the job of the Newspaper Specialist as below.
o Liaise with our newspaper writers/editors, including Redvers Cunningham and Russell Hicks, and any others that you can locate.
o Also glean articles and writers from UKIP Daily.
o Ensure production of a newspaper (or a choice of papers?), printing by 1 February 2018. (Imax usually handle the printing). Try NOT to date the paper.
o Ensure that (at top of front page) the £ logo is on the left, “UKIP NEWS” in the middle, and any new logo on the right (until our new logo is known in the public mind).
o Seek to get every region, county and branch to buy huge quantities of the newspaper(s). Get branches to deliver to houses and via town stalls before the Spring 2018 postal vote date.
o Arrange for the cost of an 8 page newspaper to the branches to be 4p each, with any loss paid by a generous central donor.
o Have a “newspaper” stall at all conferences.
Regards, Toby, 01932-873557
I presume you have put this idea to our new leader directly.
Yes, via one of his team.
I don’t know about Henry Bolton, but here is a template letter that should be sent to all MPs.
To Open letter to Gareth Johnson MP (Personal Assistant to David Davis MP)
Our Armed Services are at risk – now !
There appears to be talks in the EU Parliament later this week under the heading of ‘PESCO’. The details are sketchy.
The document which precedes this week’s meeting highlights the prospect of EU Military integration, possibly by the end of this year.
Has everything been decided in advance of the meeting ?
Is Selmayr (Juncker aide) in effect telling diplomats what to say ?
Diplomats of the 28 countries draft the EU Conclusions and minister have to stand up and explain why they disagree with their diplomats in the EU Council meeting.
If ministers don’t do this, the conclusions stand as EU Council conclusions. Silence is taken as consent.
With military union comes fiscal union. Can there be a meaningful Brexit with our troops answerable to Brussels ?
There is now a nationwide campaign to highlight what is going on behind closed doors. Become part of it – please.
Are MPs overlooking these important matters including those of national security ?
Are these no longer being debated in Parliament ?
Please let us know where you stand on this.
EU PESCO meeting Tuesday 24th October 2017 @ 10am in Room 50.6
http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/meetings/mpo/2017/10/political-and-security-committee-(258808)/
Everything you say is right. What is UKIP doing about it? Not a lot. HB and his “team” need to get out of the trenches. The man to help in this is David Kurten but he has seemingly been side-lined. Shameful.
This is a wonderful idea John. For DK to assigned to alert the people to every illogical, ineffective, duplicitous, incompetent and damaging Brexit thing that TM does to this country as she does it, to remove the scales from their eyes and to counter the misleading propaganda foisted by the Media. And I , and others I presume, would be happy to provide input.
It was disappointing to hear today on the “Sunday Politics” Tom Newton Dunn say that ” …we are now in a pretty decent shape to move on in December to trade talks …” and a lot more about how well we are doing! I wonder what he has been drinking,**@&!?#**
And we had Iain Martin on Sunday Politics talking about European leaders going out of their way to help T. May and that Barnier is the “good guy” who got what he wanted out of Florence!!!! Have we, as a country, now become so mentally deranged that we listen to this insulting garbage and no-one objects? Your suggested role for DK is desperately needed. Indeed all our newly appointed spokesman should be onto this sort of this every day and taking these people to task. UKIP needs to get going.
HISTORY WILL JUDGE T.MAY as the worst PM in British history.
She is supine and imagines her job is to make a deal with the EU that they will like. She is concerned about being liked, something that Churchill Thatcher Gaitskill etc were uninterested in. She has no deep convictions and somehow thinks that we should remain best buddies with the EU.
She must be a poor judge of character if she imagines Junker, Macron, Merkel will be playing fair.
We are in a dreadful quandary but there are two golden hopes – golden apples.
The first is that circa 20 million voters remain committed to Brexit against 5million determined to stop it.
The second is world events. Brexit helped to embolden nationalist sentiments in Europe and around the world. This will not fizzle out. Most indications imply a growth of tribal nationalist loyalties that have been hidden for two generations. Even the Germans with an (unfair) mass guilt complex are sick and tired of immigrants living on welfare for generations and abusing the natives to boot.
It’s a rocky road and there will be lots of trouble ahead.
How could it be otherwise when ISIS mass murderers with UK passports are being allowed to return to Walsall, Tipton, Blackburn, Bradford, and London now that the ‘caliphate’ is in ruins. Even Enoch did not predict such a gutless feckless criminally dangerous situation.
Why “unfair”
I have never believed the mass of the German population were unaware of the death camps or the preceding mayhem and persecution of Jews,Gypsies and others. They might not have dared talk about the plan and execution of it to get rid of the non-Aryans, but I`m pretty sure it`s only human nature to gossip and if it`s anything really bad – most gossip and therefore most damning guilt to hand down forever.(Sins of the father,collective guilt etc. encouragement of these deeds by the general population is complicity)
In fact the Germans have been too cocky by far after the war – and the master race intellect still carries on.
Just look at “Their” creation the EU.
Nothing can excuse the rape of Greece and Cyprus.
Nothing can excuse the ransom demands by this set of gangsters (not my description) for the divorce settlement; look what the EU inspired thugs have just done in Spain the other weekend.
PS I don`t excuse the sins of the allies during and before the war (and there were) – but we won.
The true test of a good general used to be not only the vanquishing of the enemy in battle, but the pursuit of the survivors and their complete butchery afterwards – ensures they don`t come back for more.
(ref. Great Captains by Theodore A Dodge. “The Art of War in the campaigns of Alexander, Hannibal, Julius Caesar, Gustavus Adolphus, Frederick the Great,Napoleon.)
Mister Turner so according to you germans born in 1969 should feel guilt for what happened 70 years ago+?
Do you feel guilty for a great uncle who broke the law in 1920?
I suspect you do not speak German nor do you know Germans.
I refer to good ordinary hard working Germans. They are quite similar to the English.
Your interpretation of them is flawed and based upon allied propaganda
“Allied propaganda” – the fake news of yesteryear you mean. To be quite honest I believe as much of it as the modern version;
and yes I do believe if one of my ancestors participated in say slavery, modern PCism would expect me to express my guilt and relentlessly apologise and crawl away under my stone.
But aren`t we forgetting we are talking about the EU here, which I understand from previous threads and postings has a pedigree of Germanic breeding and for some, is an instrument of continuing German hegemony.
I hesitate to say by “divine right”, as to me the opposite is right of conquest and I wouldn`t like them to get the idea that what they lost in defeat they can win by subterfuge and political pressure.
Finally I will quote you what I wrote on the 10th March 1962 to my wife to be, when I was in the Merchant Navy and she had been asking me what I thought about the idea of joining the Common Market and the steps to world government which were to follow.
“………actually I can see what we will gain from the union – but I hate to think we are going to be so closely associated with them, Germany especially, where they still have Nazi mentality, mind you, I suppose you can say that the union will be the means of containing them because it will channel their energies”
I don`t really see much reason to have changed my mind since then.
Roger, you say ” In fact the Germans have been too cocky by far after the war ….”. This stirs some thoughts that have been lingering for a long time; by the way, I have some very good and long standing German friends.
I have often thought that given WW2 cost the UK so much and our enterprising and business nature, when war reparations were discussed and offered we declined to accept anything? Well, there were a few minor exceptions.
Apparently we were reluctant because after WW1 the allies imposed a heavy cost on Germany which lead to catastrophic inflation, resentment and eventually to WW2. So why didn’t we do something beneficial to us and them?
When Lord Rootes was offered what was left of the VW factories and business he declared something like “It would be too much trouble and he didn’t like their noisy little rear engined cars anyway.” So a British Army major took over VW and got the factories working again and ran the business until it was on its feet and then he handed it over.
I always wonder why the UK didn’t then keep say 10% of the shareholding, and a golden share in VW, and in BMW, Mercedes, Siemens, Bayer, BASF, Allianz, Deutsche Bank, Deutsche Post and others in view of the vast cost to this country. Where would we be today? Instead we took nothing and stationed armies over there to protect them from the Ruskies! Are we dumb or what? GRRRRR**
Perhaps I am an old codger, just sounding off at the end of life and not really knowing Germany or the Germans, certainly not the more modern ones after their integration into the Common Market.
So here are a few thoughts and instances.
a) I am told that Churchill after the war instructed that German weapons be stock piled in case they needed to re-arm to fight the Soviets – bit difficult if there was no infrastructure to put solidity behind them, so what was the point of reparations.
b)A number of German industries had used slave labour during the war, I`m not sure British industry or authority knew which ones – so if it was me I wouldn`t have wanted to get involved or take what I thought was dirty money. I do know there was a cosmetics Co that used slave labour and my wife, throughout her life refused to use their products.
c) I now know the Poles refused to take reparations , as a satellite instructed under the Russians.
d) My first trip tp sea. docked in Hamburg, loaded cargo for West Africa, including spirits which as valuables required special notation and stowage and handling – as Junior I was required to look after documentation etc. I found myself being ordered around by a German wearing a leather jacket and a military style hat, I felt resentful, when I enquired who he was afterwards.
the answer “Oh he used to be a U.Boat Captain” (This was 1953)
e) Again 1953 first trip age 18 – taken (willingly) to the bright lights of the Reeperbahn – visited a drinking house come music hall called the Zillertall. Music – Bavarian Umpah band, came the interval, we were in the gallery and looked at the crowd on the dance floor below, there seemed to be men again in leather jackets moving among them.
“Who are they?” I asked Germans along side us.
One word answer “Gestapo”
2nd half
f)Maggie Thatcher asked Nicholas Ridley to do an assessment of German Character, up to date – wasn`t very impressed got sacked for his trouble
g)My daughter went to a school in Scotland, twinned with a German one .Alternate years they sent approx. a dozen over to our end and then the next year our dozen who they had digged with went over there and did the same.
The girl who came to us, always seemed to be a bit abrasive, but never mind, living with folk and speaking a different language can be a bit off putting 24 hours on end.
However one evening we were all sitting at the dining table in the bow window overlooking the river Tay.
Just then a coaster came down the river into our view, having loaded a cargo up river at Perth.
The Conversation went something like this:-
One of us “Oh!look there`s a ship coming down the river”.
One of us “Oh!look she`s flying the German flag, I wonder if she is going to Germany and what is she carrying”
German Girl “There is nothing she would be carrying that Germany would need from here”
There`s no answer to that attitude – and that would have been approx. 1985 – 40 years after the war.
I`m sure her attitude wasn`t that of all the other girls in the party, but it certainly gave us pause for thought.
My daughter when she went over to Germany on the return trip had a most miserable time.
However she subsequently got a degree in German and spent a year during her course at a German University – without any untoward feelings about the race.
Quite right, Mr. Kennedy……look at what she does, not what she says. Why is she cringing to these mafia hoods?
Ref my comment on “Todays letters” thread.
I watched a Conservative MP on RT `Sputnik` this morning when questioned on the state of Brexit said that he thought all would be agreed (fudged/surrendered) but the position of the ECJ during the transition period would be a sticking point.
So a big bucks ransom to the gangsters, where will we get the money from?
I don’t think that May has any intention of leaving the EU. Oh she talks a good fight but what has she actually done. Nothing that is favourable. Her cabinet along with her party is stuffed full of Europhiles, she has offered money, which has prompted them to demand more, in fact she has just about capitulated. Yes we will leave March 2019 but in name only
Agreed, We will we inveigled into more discussions with the carrot of a trade agreement dangled alluringly, ever extending transitions nd implementation periods delay after delay until we either beg to be allowed back again, on terrible terms, or we end up as a Dominion or Dependency dangling off the edge of the EU with no membership of any institutions and being completely subservient and exploited. Mrs May has almost got us to this dreadful situation, so URGENT action is needed. Somehow we have to get Boris or JRM into No 10!
Mrs May wants to be liked. She gets little of that from within her own party, if it was not for fear of an election she would have gone by now.
Perhaps she’s hoping for the odd smile from people in Brussels. I could live with 20 billion though I don’t like it, we should have left first and negotiated afterwards. The main reason why we can’t do that is the attitude of Cameron and most of his party before and during the referendum, when they considered a leave vote was impossible and so made no preparations for one. So now we must prepare for full on no deal escape, including spending money on it. It’s about the only card we have that will concentrate the minds of the commission and the other leaders.
Not only did Cameron not prepare for the possibility of a ‘leave’ vote, he actually forbade the Civil Service from making any preparation.
Michael articulates very well the impression I have gained of the bad faith and incompetence of Her Majesty’s Government, Theresa May in particular.