Didn’t we have an exciting weekend! There was the h-u-g-e ‘Peoples’ Vote’ anti-Brexit march on Saturday, and for those less into marching and more into perusing the declamations of politicians and pundits, there were the Sunday papers and TV shows. But – who needs a 2nd Referendum when our government is doing their utmost to keep us in while the MSM are playing ‘look, a squirrel’ yet again! More on that below.
The images published of that demo seemed to show carefully how very many anti-Brexiteers there now are, all for a 2nd Referendum and the numbers increasing to now, allegedly, 700,000 – if you believe the organisers. The Police apparently doesn’t publish their estimates any longer. Mind you, there was one aspect I did enjoy when looking at the reports: there were many aerial photographs of Apsley House, the London Residence of the 1st Duke of Wellington, who must be rotating in his crypt in St Paul’s Cathedral!
Expect the ‘organisers’ of this Remainer Rent-a-Crowd to use the images as ‘powerful’ support for their demands, expect the Remainer MSM and their supporters in Whitehall to use this as ‘argument’ against Brexit, and expect the spineless politicians, from Ms May’s Cabinet to the MPs and the Lords to thwart our Brexit vote. Never mind that, even if one were to add those alleged 600,000 to the Remain vote, they still fall far short of the 17.4 million who voted out.
Above all, never mind that even a prominent Remainer such as Dominic Sandbrook, commenting in the DM (see here), makes the point that
“Almost everything about the so-called People’s Vote effort is bogus. It claims to be a ‘grassroots campaign’, yet its headquarters are in Millbank Tower, the architectural embodiment of the Westminster establishment. Far from being organised from the bottom up, it is actually a front for the lobby group Open Britain, a direct successor of the Remain campaign. It is backed by such ‘grassroots’ Britons as Lord Mandelson, Sir Vince Cable and Sir Nick Clegg, while its online adverts rely heavily on millionaire celebrities such as Gary Lineker, Patrick Stewart and Steve Coogan.”
Well, they must all have drunk ‘EU milk’, such as is now given out in our schools:
(Photo courtesy of John Owen)
For me, the most revealing quote came from the London Mayor, Sadiq Khan:
“I can’t think of anything more democratic, anything more British, than trusting the judgement of the British people. (Daily Mail Report)”
Yes indeed – but only if they vote Remain!
It has escaped Mr Khan and the Blairs, Heseltines, Majors, Campbells etc right through to Mr Cable of the LibDems that not only was there one such vote on June 23rd 2016 – there was another one at the GE 2017, where both major Parties said they would honour the Brexit vote. It was in their Manifestos, as for example the ever useful John Redwood pointed out here yesterday.
But it’s Monday, and as Mr Hammond will deliver the Budget in exactly one week’s time, on Monday the 29th of October, let’s look at what will provide less spectacular images than a mass demo: taxes. Here’s something the Peoples’ Vote organisers weren’t talking about: the EU is set, in one of their latest, leaked Brexit proposals, to keep us under the Brussels yoke, as reported in the Daily Telegraph, a day before that anti-Brexit demo. It’s behind a paywall so I shall quote at length – it is that important!
“According to draft documents, the EU wants to ensure the UK pledges to keep its tax rules aligned with those of the bloc as part of any future Brexit agreement. Such a move would prevent the UK from becoming a low-tax economy by cutting its corporation tax rate to attract business. And – depending on the wording of any agreement – it could mean that any future changes to the EU’s tax rules would need to be followed by the UK, even years after Brexit.”.
It doesn’t matter that there is no actual tax alignment in the current Eurozone, it doesn’t matter that the EU has, at the moment, no power over our tax regime anyway – this is for the future, for their BRINO-deal. Those of us who have looked at the various Barnier/EU “proposals” to which Ms May and her Olly-Robbins Brexit “dealers” are feebly succumbing have long suspected that the whole negotiations are about punishment generally and economic punishment for our decision in particular. That cat is now manifestly out of the bag:
“The EU desire for alignment on tax reflects a fear in Brussels that Britain could become a Singapore-style low-tax economy after Brexit and a magnet for business and investment.”
And:
“The wording of the minutes of the meeting suggests Brussels will try to impose EU tax policies on the UK and its overseas territories after Brexit next March. Describing the Prime Minister’s Chequers proposal as “wishful thinking”, the documents state: “According to the Commission, it is not feasible that the political declaration will not include taxation provisions.” […] “The mandate for the negotiating team is to define and create a level playing field, taking into consideration four main areas, of which one is taxation.”
Odd that this ‘main area’ has not figured prominently in all those articles and debates about which Brexit ‘Model’ Ms May should agree to …
There’s more:
“The objective is that the UK will abide by the tools adopted at EU level to fight tax evasion/avoidance, namely Code of Conduct on Business Taxation, Exchange of Information Directives (DAC) including Country by Country Reporting between tax authorities, Anti-Tax Avoidance Directive (ATAD).” These directives insist that other countries which trade with the EU report their tax status so the EU can close any perceived “loopholes” (my emphasis). Referring to Britain’s overseas countries and territories (OCTs), the document adds: “The intention is that they commit to continue to alignment with EU standards, including for their OCTs.”
Let that sink in! Let it sink in deeply! The EU will govern our tax regimes regardless , even if we’re out and therefore not represented ….
It puzzles me why our spineless politicians, from the PM down, are so keen to give up one of the most important prerogatives of Parliament, to control our country’s finances and taxation.
In my last article I asked for a new Cromwell. Forget that – let’s take an example closer to the present. Let’s recall what triggered American Independence:
“No taxation without representation!”
We all know what happened next ..
Just out of interest, has anybody actually seen the Peoples Vote website?
https://www.peoples-vote.uk/
Out of curiosity (and purely for research purposes) I had a look myself on Sunday.
It’s all so cleverly worded, almost “Common Purpose” really, to look and sound fairly inocuous. Who wouldn’t want to think it would be a ‘good thing’ for the people to have a say on the ‘final deal’ that the Government agrees to?
The ‘mythbusters’ page is certainly worth a chuckle: https://www.peoples-vote.uk/mythbusters
It’s only by reading between the lines – because they never directly admit to what it is they exactly want to achieve – that you learn that this campaign is very much about reversing the result of the last referendum.
Certainly it becomes obvious by the number of EU flags being waved and some of the slogans on the placards that were carried during this march.
If it were simply about giving the public a say on whether we ‘leave under the Government’s agreed withdrawal deal’ or ‘leave without a deal’, I might be inclined to support it.
The irony is that as my MP is a Labour-Remainer (Steve McCabe, Birmingham Selly Oak) I would question the point of writing to him to ‘demand a Peoples Vote’ as the likelihood is that most Labour MPs would vote against any withdrawal deal no matter the terms. So the odd thing is that I would probably agree with my Labour MP!
Unless this would purely be a mechanism to “shift the blame” away from the MPs and onto the electorate instead.
“Hey you voted for this, don’t blame us!”
But no, no matter how much they try and disguise their intentions, this ‘Peoples Vote’ is just a mechanism to try and reverse Brexit.
We baked some lovely Shrewsbury Biscuits this week-end in our multi-fuel Rayburn oven. Delia Smith and Jamie Olivers books provide really good fuel.
When is the next pro Brexit march. We need one pretty soon and we need more than the 10,000 who were on the last one in June this year. We seriously need to start hitting back. Who is going to take the lead on this. By rights it should be UKIP, but we are failing badly on this score. Too many of our members are saying we’re not doing enough………..
No need to be drawn into a battle. We won the vote in 2016, that’s enough. The Remainers need to be reminded about ‘Loser’s Consent’, where by participating in a vote you agree to accept the outcome, the basis of democracy !
Have you seen the state of most of them.
I honestly do not know anyone that joined the March of the Mentally Unstable.
It seems that public servants, union activists and groomed students are obsessed with becoming a street freakshow.
Watch and laugh.
Absolutely with you there. I watched a couple of videos on Utube and wasnt at all impressed by the dickheads taking part. Many weren’t even born here, probably just tourists out and about in London! I discovered The Students Union were given £20k to bus students from all over the country to London and the EU gave the campaigners 300,000 euros to fund this march against democracy! Delia Smith also contribiuted to providing coaches to bring people on the march but when interviewed seemed a bit out of it, someone intimated she had been at the alcohol – thats very possible. All in all it just angered me even more, if that is at all possible!
BREXIT
Q/ Without Googling it, how many readers know WHO our Economics spokesperson is ??
That’s a trick question folks !
It was Catherine Blaiklock until her first article last week which seemed to upset TPTB. Her second which was a corker should have had Gerard on blended knee BEGGING her to take up the post again
I’m with you and Russell on this. To sack Catherine Blaiklock – spiky though she may be- was plain spiteful.
I heard a rumour that if Tommy Robinson makes it through his trial tomorrow, that he may be the new economics spokesman for UKIP
Not a bad choice, as he (according to the Daily Mail) has made £2,000,000 from suckers funding his shenanigans and just bought a £950,000 home from it.
He knows economics….
Crime Pays.
Kev, you’re a complete Establishment useful idiot.
The Daily Hitler says……..
You cannot have a spokesman encouraging prospective members to join For Britain.
In politics that is beyond stupid.
I’m posting this because it’s my instant response. And it may be stupid in fact I suppose it is. Butmaybe it needs airing and may explain some actions.
. Bryan Why is that stupid? Is it because of rules ( Rules are made and broken.)
Why have I never even thought of that. Everything now starts slotting into place. I never ever actually believed in the ” UKIP is a Political Party” thing, I couldn’t credit it as amantra.I think it’s maybe a dead end. That’s why nothing happens, The NEC is the promotional pinnacle of UKIP. that’s why all the good or brilliant people leave. That’s why all the good ideas die. .What the party wants is drudgery, trudging foot sloggers. I guess because Nigel was the antithesis of this, I havent expected it.As far as I can see, Nigel has gone up miles in my estimation. And he’s dumped us.I think he feels affectionate about his baby.
Do I actually believe UKIP reached here because we are a political party. No, I don’t think so. I think it was necessary to have a political party as a money poodle. Maybe that ‘s why the Ltd Co.. Momentum have shown us how.
I’m going to have to restart thinking again
Restart ?
Actually I never presse th button for this I just shut down What happened ?
Only those who lost the first one need a second referendum, try, try, and try again!
BREXIT.
When (if) we ditch the customs union there are likely to be some difficulties, for some time, with backlogs of trucks queueing around our Channel ports. This may cause problems for a considerable amount of time
Q/ Without Googling it, how many readers know WHO our Transport spokesperson is ?? ( We have one)
Q/ Try finding anything he or she has published on the subject.
BREXIT.
Crunch time soon with, according to Mrs May, 95% of the deal done and dusted – and the item that is likely to be the decider, the Northern Ireland border issue, remains unresolved..
Q/ Without Googling it, how many readers know WHO our Northern Ireland spokesperson is ?? ( We have one)
Q/ Try finding anything he or she has published on the subject.
Well, you already had a referendum in 1975, United Kingdom European Communities membership referendum, voted remain. Somehow 2016 vote was not illegitimate because of that?
I agree Jaroslaw. We should compromise…. Lets have the ‘Peoples Vote’ in another 43 years time
In 1975, we voted to stay in the EEC – a very different animal from the EU, which came into being through new Treaties (Maastricht, Lisbon).
If you joined a club dedicated to playing football and the club suddenly changes the rules so that only table tennis can be played – would you remain and pay the fees? Or would you leave, especially when you’re told that you can pay but never play, not even table tennis?
Absolutely correct Vivian.
This is Mrs May. This is what she does. What she did with the police was just a trailer.
You are not wrong there. As Home Secretary Theresa May shafted the police good and proper. Reduced pay and conditions, reduced overtime payments, increased pension payments, lengthened service before pension, introduced direct entry to Superintendent and above, direct entry to Detective Constable, appointed a clueless individual called Tom Windsor as Chief Inspector of Constabulary, effectively ended P.A.C.E. Stop and Search, intruduced a freeze on police recruitment, and introduced creeping politicisation of the police. The result of all this political interference is a demoralised and underpaid workforce, now expected to do their job with both hands tied behind their backs. Would she have got away with this with the NHS, I don’t think so.
I was speaking to a Kent policeman only 10 days ago who told me they (Kent) were 450 officers short (about a third) and that morale was on the floor. Pay was a major issue along with a general malaise between careerists and ‘regular’ cops.
I have not been able to check those stats so don’t take them as gospel.
Promotion is allegedly impossible without going through ‘competency based interviews/ selection’ which requires vast amounts of Newspeak and brown-nosing and very little else. His actual words were ‘Shit floats’ .
What I do know, after calling 999 three weeks ago, is that it took Kent Police 42 minutes to turn up. In town.
I will add that the police station is but 600 yards away…..
Why would you expect them to take you seriously with a first name like “Kevin” (or, for that matter, “Freddy”?).
Really, I do wonder about you at times.
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/deed-poll-forms
A couple of weeks ago here in Birmingham, I attended a local ward meeting, and a representative from Billesley police station gave some insight into local police station closures and how their roles work.
Billesley police station is not far from my house, just up Yardley Wood Road. Yet it is earmarked to be sold off, and is not open to the public. If something happens, and I call 999, dispatchers will send a ‘response unit’ from either Bournville or Stechford police stations, both of which are some miles away. (You’re welcome to look these up on Google Maps if unfamiliar with South Birmingham!)
All that is based at Billesley police station is a small team of local police officers and PCSOs, who will look into ‘non-ermergency crimes’ reported through 101 or WMPonline. The eventual plan is to relocate this team into ‘offices’ at nearby Billesley Fire Station.
So the basic gist is that if I get robbed or mugged just yards from Billesley police station, and have my mobile phone taken, I can’t just walk into the station to report a crime, I have to either find a phone box to call 999, or walk all the way to Bournville for an hour and half.
So on this understanding, no, I’m not surprised that it took officers 42 minutes to respond to your 999 call, as they were probably not even coming from your ‘local’ police station, if this situation here in Birmingham is being mirrored across the country.
You should have mentioned that Bryan had been saying mean things to you online, then mentioned the additional crime when they showed up two minutes later.
Very true Jim… If they only knew how mean Bryan was and that I identified as a transgender lesbian black nun in a wheelchair they would have been there in 35 minutes… ; )
“I can’t think of anything more democratic, anything more British, than trusting the judgement of the British people.” – Sadiq Khan
The sheer idiocy of that statement by someone trying to undermine the democratic British judgement as delivered on June 23, 2016 forces me to re-classify the author of the khanage on London’s street.
I had him as a cunning, devious lawyer of the worst sort.
I now have to put Sadiq in the same category as Sarah Olney, the clueless Libdem who, just after being elected in Richmond Park in late 2016, stated she wanted a second referendum, but was dumbstruck when she was asked why there shouldn’t be a second election to see if the people really wanted her as an MP. As it happens, there was a G.E. just a few months later – and they didn’t, and she lost the seat.
….Then she became Chief of Staff for Vince Cable, on a fat salary, much to the annoyance of many LibDems…. Every party has its special friends allegedly.
Re: Sarah Olney
There is an obvious dental similarity to one Natasha Bolter.
I would not wish to speculate as to why I might mention that. Kevin, you’re a sleuth, and clever, brave too, so…
Ms Bolter, a visitor from Labour, having wrought mini-havoc within UKIP (Roger Bird, David Soutter, etc.), moved on to be part of Tower Hamletistan ex-Mayor Lutfur Rahman’s team of “Independents”, but the last I heard she is independent of the “Independents”. I was appalled that, in the Canary Wharf ward this May, she stood 11th out of 12, narrowly beating a Green: https://democracy.towerhamlets.gov.uk/mgElectionAreaResults.aspx?ID=133&RPID=15789896 . I suspect greens aren’t really understood in Tower Hamlets.
Note the spelling is not “Boulter”. It is easy to remember – if it starts with “Bolt”, bolt.
Ah ! Mr Soutter ! He of ‘shag me in my £200 a night hotel room paid for by UKIP and you will get on the list ‘ fame…
Sue me if you fancy it Soutter…..
Sadly, the bottom line is that the Soros/EU/BBC/LibLabCon funded and driven propaganda blitz these last two years has been working very hard and UKIP have been ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE NEAR THE DEBATE, just standing around wondering what happened.
Looks increasingly that the time for debate has long since gone. It’s what will come next that is the interesting question and how UKIP will respond to that. Anyone going to organise a pro Brexit march with free posters publicity and transport ?
Fix bayonets! Don’t shoot ’til you see the whites of their eyes …
(Usually means ammo’s running low.)
This from Breitbart regarding the losers march:
“Groups Promoting Anti-Brexit ‘People’s Vote’ March Funded by the EU”
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/10/21/groups-promoting-anti-brexit-peoples-march-funded-eu/
I know I’ve been posting a few videos lately from the Money GPS but I like his analysis. Look at this one:
“Italy’s Debt Crisis Will Crush the EU! Contagion Will Spread Fast Bringing MASSIVE Deflation!”
https://youtu.be/G0hqY5e_Z0k
If our government don’t get us out of the EU pronto, you, your children, grandchildren and probably thier children will be paying for this disaster. I think May and our government know this and want us to pay, the EU is financially and economically f***ed.
Then there’s this video:
“The Global Economic Collapse Already Here! The Economy Is Completely Rotten.”
https://youtu.be/NmUdmriweLQ
Needless to say, I’ve posted these videos because I agree with the analysis. Some of the charts in the above video are frightening, we’re headed for a catastrophe, it really is about time that the governments that we elect to represent us did just that and not the EU and their banking masters.
The globalist, multiculti project is going to be a violent disaster as it unwinds, you need to be prepared for this.
We need to distance ourselves from the EU as far and as quickly as possible!
Thanks Flyer for your revelations and UTube pieces. Salvini today has given another robust response to the EU oligarchs and told them Italy is not backing down on its budget. It’s a dangerous game, but I guess his plan is to scare them into discounting Italy’s massive debts. They absolutely refused to do this for Greece, but Italy is a different kettle of fish.
Great article Viv pity you quoted the peoples historian Sandbrook and the D.T. though, have either much credibility left?
Firstly, it’s what the general public reads, and the quotes can therefore not be brushed aside as ‘alt-media’ –> therefore ‘untrustworthy’ by our critics.
Secondly, it would be counterproductive not to use a report on an important leaked Brussels paper just because it’s ‘in the DT’.
You may have noticed that I interpret and comment but am not using these quotes as gospel to which we all have to adhere.