*** BREAKING NEWS *** BREAKING NEWS ***
Henry Bolton has been elected the new leader of UKIP.
Anne Marie Waters came second in the ballot and David Kurten came third.
But it has been reported that the Premier League’s lawyers are looking at the question of breach of copyright with the addition of the lion’s head logo.
Will the last person to leave UKIP please turn out the lights.
THERE’S A HOLE IN UKIP’S BUCKET DEAR HENRY
Wild guess 2,500 of HB’s voters disclaim the internet either never having any contact with IT/twitter/Fbook/etc or a bare minimum. Many will not have attended hustings due to age, other commitments,location of event, low interest in something not part of their political culture.
As is their right and privilege they have voted based upon the guidance from ‘Newton Abbot’ and of course Henry’s excellent tory-ukip CV in the ukip magazine special for voters.
I have come to respect HB and prefer to think the best of a bad situation.
Irrespective of anything else UKIP would not survive another leadership election in the next 3/4 years. We are at the crossroads again and it is not pleasant considering the options.
I am at a loss as to the best course of actions. Short of a miracle the next five years will see either a tory government or a labour one; the latter would herald a catastrophe. Our only hope is to be a protest vote at election times and ‘persuade’ the cabinet to keep to the purple brick road called Brexit Street.
Worryingly, you might think, he was endorsed by Nigel, as were his two predecessors!!
Kenneth J.ogilvie my sentiments exact word for word .
UKIP will now fade, the media will totally ignore the party and the general public will think we no longer exist. UKIP only did well when we were being insulted and we were their basket of deplorables. There is no mention of the party leadership elections on conservative home, libdem voice or labour list.We have been relegated to others in the opinion polls and without publicity that is where we will stay.We have a leader elected by 14% of the membership who has labelled 10% of the membership and the 1000+ new members as nazi sympathisers. Who are we going to attract, no Conservative will risk Corbyn getting in and HB is not going to appeal to Labour or none voters.The party has risked everything on Brexit not happening and confirmed to the general public that we are a single issue party. Sorry for the negativity but I just can’t find anything to be positive about.
Well summed up Sophie.
Thankyou
Sophie. I agree completely with you. The few that voted chose the wrong man. I voted for AMW. I am sad that she was not elected. I have resigned from the party. It is no longer relevant.
I hope Anne Marie starts a new party. THAT I will suport
I really wanted her to win. I so wanted her to have a platform to stand up for the 100’s of 1000’s of girls who have and still are being so brutally raped. To give a voice to those ex-muslims who are in fear of their lives. She oozes empathy and compassion when you watch her listening to those who have suffered.Douglas Murray wrote an interesting article about her and Ukip https://unherd.com/2017/09/point-ukip-heres-suggestion/ It would be fantastic if they could start a party together.Here’s hoping
It will be interesting to see if this is the rebuilding from nearly nothing of a middle of the road party under and establishment leader or if this is the tomb of the forgotten party lead by the unknown soldier.
Early on in the election campaign I suggested AMW and JRE joining forces.
Ceteris paribus their total votes were 4,776.
Question – why did the majority of members not vote? I am baffled.
The Torquay audience ( conference delegates)were prob a typical cross section of ukip with a bias towards HB supporters – male 50+ suburban professional ex tory and small business/trades.
UKIP voters are ( have been) male and female 40+ working class living in small and big towns in the North and Midlands plus the forgotten coastal towns poor whites. There is a mismatch here.
Could it be that a lot of new people joined recently, not knowing they would not be eligible to vote? Am equally baffled
The Torquay audience will also have been overwhelmingly from southern England, given the location.
So what now? Wait to see if the new Lion makes UKIP popular? See if the ‘Out Now’ campaign gets noticed? (Why isn’t it the ‘Brexit means Brexit’ campaign that everyone would instantly recognise?)
See if “the unknown ex-policeman” as he is referred to by the press, becomes known for something?
I just read the comments on Henry’s Twitter. They seem to be about 97 bad to 3 good. Perhaps the disappointed are keener than the contented to make their views known, or maybe those who voted don’t use Twitter.
I hadn’t expected to hear that Henry Bolton had won. The various reports on hustings here on UKIP Daily always portrayed him as steady, respectable, and unexciting.
Of course what we didn’t really see a lot of in the articles here is the thoughts and feelings of the majority of UKIP Members.
Those that have continued their membership largely did so in support of the party as it now is, with what has been determined as about 27,000 paid up members.
The party though has not only lost the support of millions who voted to leave the EU but also at least 20,000 previous members. Maybe more actually because in recent years there would have been some new members to replace others lost.
So the disaffected former UKIPpers shouldn’t be surprised that the newly elected leader is one likely to fit with the existing establishment and looks and sounds respectable.
I am initially disappointed about a bland, grey suited, ex Liberal, establishment man being elected as leader of a party that needs to be both radical and outspoken and needs a top down reorganisation.
The selection of a new logo close enough to that of a football club is just typical of the stupidity of the existing management who pushed this through without members consultation, and now is likely to either drop it or fight an expensive legal battle. You just can’t make this stuff up can you.
As a disaffected and disillusioned former member of UKIP, I will try to stay patient and watch how events unfold over say the next week. I will decide if this man will reorganise and revitalise the party and whether he has the ability to lead it to new horizons and offer anything to former members to make them return to the fold.
Otherwise I feel that UKIP will gently fade away. Anne Marie Waters might well try to create a party from the ‘For Britain’ base, but will she be able to get enough momentum to create to useful pressure group.
There might also be others who are awkward with her being just so forceful and antagonistic and afraid to be likewise branded as Nazi, Far Left, Far Right, Fascist, xenophobic, racist, etc, etc.
That leaves them still in no-mans land looking for a party that believes in a sovereign independent Britain that once the Tories used to champion.
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Anthony, the only people Anne Marie is antagonistic toward are wife-beaters, FGMers, racist rapists, animal torturers, rabid anti-Semites, misogynists, homophobics and sharia law practitioners who regard females as half the worth of males. She is forceful in insisting on telling the truth instead of denying and lying. That’s the kind of politician I want to support.
If it results in my being called all the things you listed, it’ll be water off a duck’s back. I used to teach adolescents, the cruellest of abusers believe me.
Strikes me as interesting as a damp squib. I’m falling asleep already. Get ready for a new leader election campaign.
R.I.P. U.K.I.P.
Respectable obscurity.
Liberas, I’ve visited this site fairly regularly for some time but not commented until recently, and, quite frankly I’ve been astonished at the level of support for Anne Marie among contributors, because it wasn’t reflected elsewhere among members. In my branch, there was a very negative response to the possibility of an AMW victory. To a man (we have very few women members) they supported and voted for Henry Bolton, as I did. I received a message from one of them who heard the result while driving home from holiday and informed me that he would now remain a member. That is fairly typical. I also know a number of people who will now renew their membership, having allowed it to lapse.
I commented several weeks ago that UKIP Daily had become like an echo chamber of intimidatory support for Anne Marie, with an almost total lack of objectivity and fairness, and little seems to have changed.
Marie in case you hadn’t heard she came second despite the fact many of the new members were not allowed to vote. It also shows many of the existing members are willing to risk being called ‘Nazis’ and perhaps worse because they see Islam as the real problem even though you may not?
Well you’ve just disproved your own hypothesis by commenting yourself haven’t you?
Although I note you aren’t being particularly fair, and I doubt you’ll want to change that.
You started your comment with my name, so I will respond.
I wrote an article about the risk of having AMW as leader, but that I hoped for a radical UKIP which would tackle postmodernist-Marxism as a key policy. I preferred either David Kurten or AMW as they were the only two who seemed strongly interested in that.
I have also been complimentary about Henry Bolton’s background, but was shocked at two things he did during the election. I hope that he makes a success of his leadership and that UKIP prospers, but as he has had a press conference without managing to impress his ideas or aims on the journalists it will be a while before we know what will become of UKIP.
Reading the summary of how the press reported the conference it seems to be more about who lost and how Henry is an unknown and that the new logo may be subject to copyright claims.
I hope that his next press conference has a more inspiring outcome.
Well said, Marie! Perhaps this site should rebrand as “AMW Daily”? ?
@ Rob McW
Absolute nonsense. You are the equal of Marie in spouting false claims.
@ Marie
In what way, shape or form can the support for Anne Marie have been ‘intimidatory’? Did you suspect that an AMW supporter was waiting outside for you, having gone to the excessive trouble of finding your address with only a forename that might be a nom de plume, then gone to the expense of making a journey to your house? Of course not. Was anyone trolled on here? If you say ‘yes’ I don’t think you know what trolling is, plus you do a disservice to our Editor-in-Chief and the other Editors who moderate the posts.
You might be interested to know that most Ukippers here in the Teesside region were rooting for AMW and Bolton would have been the last person they would have chosen for leader. In the campaign, anyone who had a candidate they wanted to promote had an equal chance of doing so. Those who support AMW had as much right as anyone else to promote her for leader with reasoned and objective arguments. What is ‘unfair’ about that?
Well, well, I certainly didn’t see that one coming! A democratic vote is what we had…… We are led to believe. Is HB an exLib Dem, just someone mentioned…. Lush, just what the Dr ordered, not! Brexit is our main priority, yes, but is there no one out there who can do more than one thing at once? Islam infiltrating our food chain with ritually/religiously slaughtered meat is also happening as we deal with what we voted for Leaving the EU. I will be expecting those who are aware of our countries continued infiltration by Islam, Sharia law, exemptions and exceptions to be joining together to do these two things along side each other.If HB doesn’t take note of votes for AMW and ignores Sharia etc then we will have a Leader of lily livered, wishy washy nothing, again. I sincerely hope HB will take control and make us the party I joined years ago. One that demands Brexit and insists on One law for all with no exemptions or exceptions for anyone. Will he? Jury is out for me. In the mean time I will be attending the Farewell Party when the date is announced for Agnew!
Amorée, Henry Bolton is also opposed to non-stun religious slaughter.
It makes no logical sense for UKIP to demand “one law for all” and at the same time be pro-Halal and pro-Kosher. The cognitive dissonance within UKIP policy making has to be addressed. There are so many holes in Stuart Agnew’s arguments, and he really has not taken note of the feelings of the large majority of grassroots members on this issue.
HB has the potential to be a great leader, we shall see over the next few days whether that potential will be realised. To make UKIP policies coherent must be a priority task, unfortunately they are currently incoherent, see my articles:
http://www.ukipdaily.com/anti-sharia-pro-halal/
http://www.ukipdaily.com/ukip-policy-change-anti-pro-halal-slaughter/
Amoree. I totally agree with you – especially the bit about UKIP demanding Brexit and insisting on One law for all with no exemptions or exceptions for anyone, as long as it is UK law. I am prepared to wait and see what Mr Bolton is made of before I jump ship.
Once again the fear of being accused of racism hamstrings the party , I wish Bolton luck but blandness is the last thing we need right now.
Those suggesting Bolton extend the olive branch to AMW in the name of party unity, did you not follow the leadership election?
Bolton repeatedly smeared AMW, called her and her supporters Nazis, attempted to get her disqualified days before the ballot papers went out and then bottled it when he saw AMW wouldn’t be bullied.
We know little about Bolton, but most of what we do know is bad – ex Lib Dem, ex EU, ex UN, and of course his shameful behaviour in the leadership election itself. He may well be a steadying hand, but UKIP needs more than managed decline. He will do nothing inspire new members, and after a day or two of dirt digging the media will lose all interest in him and UKIP. Anonymity and irrelevance awaits.
To top it off, Farage’s comments this evening that he “hopes very much AMW will leave today” are ungracious and unnecessary. Bolton is clearly Farage’s man.The election of Nuttall was turned into an unedifying procession of the anointed one, and somehow the UKIP establishment have repeated the same trick with Bolton, who by rights as an almost total unknown would be lucky to poll double figures let alone win with 30%.
Yes, I’m an AMW supporter so am obviously disappointed. But had Kurten or perhaps even Whittle won there would be some positives to draw. I see none with this result. None of the problems that UKIP has repeatedly failed to address over the past two years will be addressed now.
In fact, the mask has fallen from so many UKIP figures during the course of this election, Etheridge, Coburn, Collins and others, that once the dust has settled it will be AMW that has dodged a bullet, not UKIP.
Good post Gary as usual.
Agreed. Well said, Gary.
Totally agree Gary. I think UKIP is now finally dead in the water; they have become part of the pompous elite – and the public are sick of them. AMW now has the opportunity to appeal to ex-UKIP people (like myself) with the right message. She seems to be a doer, not egotistical and committed to change – exactly what we need!
Well done to HB. A period of calm and a steadying hand on the helm is what the party needs, and HB looks to be a competent captain.
I was disappointed that it was not AMW, however this is the democratic result. We will accept it, and serve as an example to the Lib Dems and other assorted remainiacs who seem to have difficulty with the concept.
I do feel conflicted about AMW, particularly later on when it became clear that Stuart Agnew was still ploughing his old furrow regarding religious abattoirs. I wrote to AMW expressing my concern, and although she gave me reassurances, I remained concerned. His speech today just reinforced that, and so I am now a little relieved that she did not win. Because she would be beholden to him, and I suspect that she would have caved in to him on this issue. It really is a key issue, even if it may not seem like it to some – it goes to the heart of “one law for all”.
I have no inside information but I do suspect that Agnew will be dropped by HB, because of his association with AMW. HB is opposed to non-stun, and there is support for this cause within the NEC too and of course among grassroots members. I am hopeful for a policy change in this area. Maybe not immediately, but in due course.
I have a feeling that the Tories now, and Labour presently, will be having sleepless nights when he starts to get the party into shape, and pulling in the same direction.
Hello Hugo, I’m glad that UKIP members can come together now under Henry, so that we can put in place “A period of calm and a steadying hand”.
In truth, there will always be aspects of UKIP policy -or UKIP spokesmen – that we will not agree with 100% and I speak for myself as well.
But this would probably apply even if we joined other political parties.
So, chin up, and onwards we go – let’s provide a real alternative to the political elites who seem to serve everyone EXCEPT ordinary British people.
Regards.
Congratulations to Henry Bolton for being elected Leader of UKIP and hope the other contestants will join him to make a good team. UKIP GOING AND WE WILL WIN.
Thanks to the 900 plus people who read my article and voted for Bolton….. ; )
http://www.ukipdaily.com/it-has-to-be-bolton/
Henry, mines a pint of Spitfire !
Well done all the other candidates who fought a decent contest..
Now… Brexit…..
Do I want to be member of a party whose supporters display such negativity in such few column inches? Let’s reflect. We are the only party which (at the moment) fully supports Brexit. Are you NOT going to give that Party your support? Please identify yourselves. We are not going to fill Parliament any time soon with our MPs, so we are – as we have always been – an effective pressure group pushing for the greatest prize that our Country could ever have; freedom. If the ambition is not there, there will be no Britain. Islam is, at present, an important side show which of course we must resist but if we fight Islam and remain under the boot of the EU we will have well and truly lost and our efforts will have counted for nought. I’ve related elsewhere on this site that 4 years ago Corbyn and McDonnell could only attract about 20 people to a meeting in Stroud (5 Ukippers included) and the local Labour members looked suicidal. Sad to relate (no B/S) that it’s difficult to buy a copy of The Guardian after midday hereabouts now. May is a “remaining traitor” to our cause, as is any-way-the-wind-blows – Corbyn; and Cable; and the Green bloke and bloke-ess. Who ya gonna call Ghostbusters ? You walk – or you walk the walk with UKIP.
I am currently a non member my membership having lapsed when Nuttel took over. I would not have voted for Bolton but now he is elected the party should get behind him. I how ever will wait a while to see how he manages the NEC before I rejoin
Independence isn’t freedom.
Brexit is an important stage on the road to freedom, but it isn’t freedom.
I see postmodernst-Marxism as the greatest threat to our freedom.
Brexit isn’t enough, because being an independent authoritarian collectivist country is only a bit better than being part of an empire.
Just returned from our conference in Torquay and can report that the mood and atmosphere was really great
I didn’t vote for Henry but he seems a genuinely good bloke – and not shy about speaking his mind and saying what’s needed to be said.
Wouldn’t it be great if Henry could find a place in his team for both Anne-Marie and David Kurten
– as a gesture of good will and unity. I’m sure it would do wonders to bring our UKIP family together again – so if you see Henry on your travels, please suggest this to him as it would be a great start to his tenure.
Finally, let us not act like Remoaners who simply cannot accept the referendum result, and instead, come together and rally around our new UKIP leader to show that democracy is still respected in this party.
Today was a truly good day for UKIP, our party members, supporters and all those wanting a proper, meaningful Brexit
– well done to all at conference and congratulations to Henry Bolton.
Yes. Let’s work together. I pray all members to get behind Henry Bolton.
(I didn’t vote for him, either. Like most members I know, I voted for David Kurten. But I am right behind Henry Bolton, and looking forward to a bright future for UKIP. All those Kurten voters to whom I have spoken today are with me and, more importantly, with Henry. And I – we – are nobody’s fanboys.)
New UKIP Leader Henry Bolton’s first press conference in the top job
https://youtu.be/rdIe5-enW6g
Although I was hoping for Anne Marie Waters to win, I’d like to congratulate Henry Bolton on his victory, and wish him all the best.
While I will continue to support UKIP, I must admit I’ve gone lukewarm on the idea of committing to full membership now.
I might be persuaded otherwise if Mr Bolton recognises the talents of his fellow candidates, in particular David Kurten, Anne Marie Waters and John-Rees Evans, and offers them senior roles, whether as ‘spokespeople’ or otherwise, in his ‘team’.
New leader, new logo etc… all needs ‘new faces’ to become the mouthpiece of the party.
Voters will either be drawn to the reinvigorated UKIP, or will be turning away if nothing really changes.
Henry Bolton may have Nigel Farage’s seal of approval which gives him some credibility, but please don’t underestimate those on the outside (like myself) who AMW really resounded with.
Congratulations Henry Bolton. I hope all members will now get behind him and give him the support he deserves. He demonstrated to me that he was an intelligent and honourable candidate who can give the Party the credibility it deserves. He has a proven management background and he knows his way around public institutions and the media. Lets face it we really do need to get more intelligent people in the party and he may just be the man to attract them. Also, we must hope he builds up the membership base and the sponsorship base – we need both to survive as a party.
He is certainly the candidate who LIB/LAB/CON and the media did not want to win as they know that if, as I expect, he shapes up the party, hones it policies, attracts new blood into the party, then Lib/Lab/Con are going loose voters big style to UKIP.
We have more chance of getting seats in Westminster under Mr Bolton than any other candidate. From my experience as an long time activist, he is the candidate who I think can gain the trust of all of the branch network and inspire them to get their activists back onto the streets proudly promoting the party and its policies.
Henry Bolton has an impressive background. He could do well. I congratulate him and wish him success.
His plan to reorganise the party requires either permission from the NEC or 20 branches to demand that the members vote on it with 66% voting yes.
If the leadership election only had a 47% turnout, I doubt that voting on a new constitution will get them out of their comfy chairs.
So, probably the NEC stays in charge and Henry has to decide whether to do what they say or be a rebel.
My bet is that he isn’t a rebel, but what do I know?
It’s funny how since Farage’s resignation last year, every leader that has been elected has been his favourite…
Am I the first to ask the question
Where is Nigel?
Family funeral, according to news reports.
Well…..I was hoping for some new real direction from UKIP in the election of AMW as its leader…..I was planning to rejoin and looking forward to being a part of something spectacular again…..dissapointed is an understatement that doesn’t even come close to how I really feel….I thought with AMW at the helm then UKIP would undoubtedly be on the up again and now…..who knows?…I’m certainly not inspired to rejoin as I had previously been excited to…..just wait and see how it all pans out I suppose…gutted!
Possibility of Bolton coming through the middle forecast on Sky lunchtime news, the chap expected that Whittle would be first and Anne Marie third.
Wonder what he based his comment on?
I voted for AMW, certainly not Bolton – he never came across to me as having any policy at all and his mannerisms drove me mad.
However, I agree we could have done worse, he is ex-army, I`d rather he was ex-RAF or RN, but at least he understands discipline and we must all admit there has been a desperate shortage within UKIP, and not just during the last year and a bit, but it goes back a long way.
Don`t expect much inspiration to come from him, but I think we should all expect to be in for some hard work, but especially the spokespersons he chooses.
But most of all I want to see a proper strategy and policy statement
So I`m disappointed, but we Voters have “democked” and so we had better get behind him.
Just watched his acceptance speech and press conference, which he seemed to handle 100 times better than Nuttall. Having said that I can’t help but think he would feel more at home in the TINO party. Hope I’m wrong
@J Freeman
I agree with you. The first question asked at the Press Conference (by whom I do not know) was “Are you an Establishment mole sent to bring UKIP down?” I thought that this was unfair until I heard some of the answers Bolton gave.
Example: on the subject of islam and integration. Bolton said that integration of all immigrants was important but we shouldn’t focus on one particular minority/community.
So, the Poles are a problem then, with their white Christian European background and culture? No? Oh, it must be the Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists he’s thinking of – they’re always tossing bombs around and raping underage white girls, aren’t they? No? Seems as though the unreconstructed Allahphant is as firmly in the room as ever, and we have another denier of its existence.
Henry had better call in AMW because he badly needs someone who knows what she’s talking about and can introduce him to the Allahphant.
He made no gaffes, seemed solid and confident, but did he get a good quote in the papers?
I am very curious to know how many disallowed votes there are?
Well you just lost me by electing this chap and no doubt many others feel the same. I walked in on the news on TV and my reaction was ‘Henry who?’. AMW offered the British people the hope that is so desperately needed that someone will speak out and tell the truth about what is happening, will inspire and stir people to raise their voice and mobilise. But what have we got? A continuity leader who wants to ignore the issues and the same old same old.UKIP is finished with this result. I hope AMW forms a new party which will moblisie all those who are being ignored and suppressed.Shocking own goal from UKIP today, you have turned your backs on the people and the huge threat we face.
CT,
Please see my reply to Panmelia below.
“I hope AMW forms a new party”.
So do I. UKIP is a political party and we should leave it to the Christians, Sikhs, Jews etc. to fight these’religious’ battles.
Bernard it already is your religious battle whether you like it or not. Most Muslims believe committed atheists, which I’m guessing you are, are a form of deviant subhuman. An animal in fact.
Here is the moderate Mehdi Hasan once of the New Statesman making that clear.
https://youtu.be/xZAfYpdn468
Bernard, Islam recognises no distinction between the religious and political spheres. There is no equivalent of “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s”.
The Caliphs, following the example of Muhammed, have always been both the political and spiritual leader rolled into one. If you think the two roles can be separated, you cannot know much about Islam.
I’d guess 1120;~)
John.
Supposed to be a reply to Clive, sorry.
John.
Bland leader who makes contentless speaches and appears clueless about the demise of our civilization, logo off a 2nd rate cereal packet. I am really inspired-to resign my membership.
I am not happy but relieved it was not Whittle.
We have a severe problem given the lab/libdem/snp/plaidc/greens all support remain ( in reality). Only half the tories are in the Brexit camp.
We band of martyrs must perforce accept the result for the time being and begin to challenge the metropolitan elite contempt for the referendum result.
Roll on the first byelection.
Still waiting and hoping that AMW is going to be given a significant role in UKIP team. If not, the ones who voted for Bolton will have to do the donating and financing as far as I’m concerned. I find him uninspiring.
I hardly think that’s likely, given that Henry Bolton mounted a legal challenge to stop AMW standing for the leadership. He stated that “The decision to allow Anne-Marie Waters to stand places the credibility of the party… in jeopardy”.
http://www.ukipdaily.com/bolton-withdraws-his-challenge-anne-marie-waters-stays/
At the hustings in Norfolk, the only candidate who a)wasn’t plain vanilla/uninspiring and b)got rousing cheers rather that a few polite claps, was AMW and she came second today.
Can’t help feeling stitchup here. Yeah yeah, that makes me paranoid right?
Is UKDaily grossly unrepresentative of support numbers for AMW? Where were all Henry’s supporters hiding?
The only reason I bothered to vote this time is I was completely bowled over by the passion and determination of Anne Marie and the fact she provably is not frightened of the dreaded media. Plain vanilla candidates will lead UKIP into obscurity.
I will only vote in the leadership election next year if she is standing. Otherwise I will follow her in support to any new party or organisation she is involved in.
An average article here on UKIPDaily is read by 500 or so persons, some of whom are not members of UKIP. So let’s say 400 are members with a vote. How many total readers there are I don’t know.
The number of members who voted was 12,915 so those who read this website could be as little as 3% of those who vote. I would guess maybe less than 10% max.
And, of those readers only about 1 in 25 comment.(less than 1% of total voters) So what you read here in comments is no guide to how the members would vote.
A couple of months ago I estimated that at most 900 people had ever commented here. And they don’t have to be members. So I find it entirely possible that the views here, whilst sincere, are wholly unrepresentative of the membership at large.
Perhaps it’s good after all that the new lion logo isn’t roaring too much. It may give a false inpression.
Congratulations to Henry Bolton.
Not sure what becomes of UKIP now as Henry has never run for a government position for UKIP except PPC which is a very specific role, so no track record we can look to. Have no idea what his policies will be but I expect very non-radical as his life seems to have been extremely conventional albeit high-achieving. I think this is a victory for the old people of UKIP, the grey-haired home counties people who see Henry as one of their own unlike an oik like Nuttall. Let’s face it, tweed probably looks good on Henry whereas it was preposterous on Nuttall. I don’t see him challenging the UKIP establishment, more likely he becomes one of them. He doesn’t seem to be a populist, not really a cultural nationalist, more of a home counties tory than anything else, although he was a libdem so that belies some kind of independent streak. Anyway, in addition to Farage’s indirect imprimateur I guess he attracted support from the ‘none of the above’ crowd as let’s face it, the other candidates were flawed in one way or another. Whittle must be gutted because it looks like his natural supporters went to AMW and under normal circumstances if she was running he could have won. David Kurten did very well and he should be party of Henry’s team. Frankly I think JRE should exit stage left after two attempts.
With less than 13,000 voting, I think we can take membership of 30,000 with a pinch of salt.
As for Bolton’s odds tumbling from 10/1 to 5/1 overnight, surely there must have been a leak?
it was 27,774 at June 23 when the cut-off took place, because turnout was 12,915 members or 46.5%
Not too big a pinch of salt Thomas.
In the previous election in Nov 2016 the number of votes cast was 15405, out of 32757 ballot papers issued. That’s about 47% voting.
About 12915 votes have been cast in this election. Should that represent a similar percentage (47%) of the ballot papers issued, then that would equate to a membership of about 27,500.
But why would more than half the membership spend £30 on membership fees and then not be bothered to pay the cost of a stamp to vote?
After this latest result, the price of a stamp looks prohibitively expensive.
Never thought it was anything like that. And will be less. Or more? Who knows!
I’m guessing that the win was by say two votes?
More like close to 1,000 …
Hi Viv
Hope you are getting a bit of relaxation time..you deserve it.
Henry won by 1119 votes over the runner up.
Kind regards.
As I tried posting earlier I was one of those UKIP members who joined but was barred from voting as it was deemed I hadn’t joined early enough. I suspect there were hundreds like me. I wish the new leader all the best but I have to be honest I only predict failure and if Bolton chooses to come down hard on AMW he will have a rebellion on his hands. Big shame AMW didn’t win when this article from the Washington Times out today predicts that in just over 20 years France may very well be a Muslim majority nation. That’s right a Muslim majority country on our doorstep with access to over 200 nuclear weapons. Right now those weapons might be pointing at Russia but who knows where once a Muslim majority country takes control. And to think there are people in UKIP worried about their social lives and the investment they’ve made into the party.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/26/muslim-majority-in-france-projected-in-40-years/
No need to worry Sean. Why would France attack a fellow Muslim country?
The UK will become majority Muslim some time between 2040 and 2060 too. We will probably both be proud members of the European Islamic Union:
http://www.ukipdaily.com/uks-demographic-transition-islamic-state/
You’re probably right Keith. What a mess?
And the only British politician who is talking about even delaying that by a decade or two just came second with the votes of 9.7% of UKIP members, in an election where the majority couldn’t even be bothered to put a cross in a box and stick a second class stamp on the envelope.
As far as I can see nothing is going to stop that happening. People with children and grandchildren need to be considering their options in eastern Europe.
Hurray, hurray.
“We live to fight another day.”
How about starting tomorrow – against May and her ‘remainders’?
Bolton – the man who said we’d be heading for national socialism if a certain candidate won, meaning AMW. I don’t suppose he meant the SNP variety, and it was a way of tarring and feathering the party if AMW had won.
No, don’t like the fella. Maybe it was his fans who filled the Conference room today: glad I didn’t make the journey this year.
By the by, BBC Parliament was supposed to be covering the UKIP Conference from 5.15 pm today, but it’s now 5.33 pm and the screen still shows Verhoffstank shouting and gesticulating like a madman who needs sectioning. TV is on mute, but just looking at the twerp is bad enough.
Panmelia, I do love you, if you don’t mind me saying! I am not commenting any more except on matters that don’t involve personalities within UKIP – you all know what I think!
It was typical ratfink BBC today: no live coverage of the UKIP Conference or even excerpts; only long brain-deadening hours of the Welsh and Scottish Parliaments, with about 6 people sitting in the Scottish one. At 5.15 pm the European leaders’ obnoxious speeches from yesterday (Junkhead, Verhofstank, Rusk – horror overload!) were supposed to end and ‘Political Highlights’ begin. I felt sure that this would be about BRITISH politics and include events at the UKIP Conference, especially the leadership election. But, oh, no, the beeb love Verhofstank so much they not only finished screening him ranting like a lunatic, but also showed him answering questions from Euromaniacs in the audience. The 6.00 pm slot billed as ‘UKIP Conference’ started 3 minutes late and got half an hour: election result, Press Conference, end of.
I am seriously thinking of giving up my TV and refusing to pay an arm-behind-my-back fee to the BBC for their bloated salaries and pro-EU treachery.
Viv’s livestream was good while it lasted, but I lost it after the morning session.