How should we celebrate a Referendum Win?
Should we celebrate? Of course we should but our celebrations need to tempered by the fact that we still need “our” government to comply. Given the lies and scaremongering of the “IN” campaign and, in particular, David Cameron we need to remain vigilant and prepared to use all necessary means to ensure that compliance.
Some of us might remember from our school history lessons the events of 1215 and later leading up to the Magna Carta and its various later editions, now largely ignored by those in government. However the memorials at Runnymede still remain as a reminder. Those memorials carry the following inscription:
In these Meads on 15th June 1215 King John at the instance of Deputies from the whole community of the Realm granted the Great Charter the earliest of constitutional documents whereunder ancient and cherished customs were confirmed abuses redressed and the administration of justice facilitated new provisions formulated for the preservation of peace and every individual perpetually secured in the free enjoyment of his life and property.
I doubt that any of our politicians are regular visitors to Runnymede; I also doubt that many have even heard of it or the events which those memorials celebrate. In any case most have certainly chosen to ignore that part of our history. The coming referendum is of far greater significance for our future than those long past events.
How might we celebrate?
Aside from the obvious and conventional ways of celebration we need to ensure that the day is not forgotten, particularly by those in government. One possibility would be a new national holiday on “Independence Day”. I’m sure that there is at least one existing bank holiday which could be moved and re-named without losing another working day.
Let us also not forget that we need to keep our politicians in line and remind them daily that they are there to serve the people, not to pursue their own agendas or those of the federal state across the Channel. One part of that reminding might be a new monument in Parliament Square bearing the original Runnymede inscription together with a clearly stated declaration of our independence. We can easily afford to pay for a grand structure out of our savings in EU contributions and could have a design competition to produce something which could not be ignored by those passing by.
The ongoing battle
Clearly there is much to be done in disentangling ourselves from the EU and its regulations so readily accepted by governments past and present. Those of us who remember life before the EU know that all EU derived law could simply be repealed; life could go on much as it did in 1973. Such a move would likely be opposed by the army of special interest groups which now exist. However I would argue that would be a good starting point; far better that we add our own necessary laws than try to eliminate the many unnecessary ones which have emanated from the EU. In any case I am uncomfortable with such decisions being left to the squabbling rabble in the HoC (with apologies to the very few who don’t fit that description).
Whatever the chosen approach – this is a major undertaking and needs to be planned, just like any major project such as the Channel Tunnel, HS2 or a NASA space flight. To quote a common saying: “to fail to plan is to plan to fail”. I doubt that there are any experienced project managers amongst our politicians; I can only bring to mind a few who had successful real careers prior to entering the world of politics.
Even in the wider world of government employees all we seem to see is spectacular failure to manage major projects. So it seems to me that a project management team needs to be put in place using people who have real world project management experience with a clear brief as to what is necessary. Of course they will need to be supported by others qualified in matters of law, accountancy and any other profession directly affected by the changes.
As of now I see no plan in place for what could happen after the 23 June. Maybe that should be taken as an indication that our referendum result, like that of the Dutch, is intended to be ignored.
Considering all of the doom and gloom pomised by Cameron and Osbourne, I assume that if the ‘Leave’ vote wins it, then they will both resign their positions. Obviously they have no confidence in the British people’s ability to pull us out of any ahort term financial difficulties that may arise. We will need a bold, positive approach and a strong leader to inspire the country. We have done it before and we will do it again! How on earth did we survive two world wars and countless depressions? I have faith our country to overcome any adversary. That’s what makes Britain ‘Great’!
Sorry John this petition doesn`t appear to be making much headway.
I signed and I was 1276 a few days ago.
It is 1289 now, at this rate it will be 2030 before it gets to 10,000.
Could coincide with the length of Mr.Osborne`s vision of the effects of BRexit
I’ve signed this petition and will urge others to do so, but Cameron & crew are bound to devise some sneaky way round it such as concocting a story to undermine Lord Kilmuir. I have absolutely no trust in these people’s honesty or judgement or patriotism.
While watching PMQs I have noticed the sneers and jibes from both sides of the House whenever an anti-EU question is asked or a point made by well known anti-EU MPs. These anti-independence, anti-British twerps need their smirks knocked to the other side of their smug faces. They deserve to be regarded as political pariahs and undemocratic traitors after we leave. In the event that any of them seek to circumvent the will of the people by manoeuvring to avoid Brexit, they should be held in the Tower until the Treason law has been reinstated and subsequently charged with High Treason.
Also…………in whose hands will reside the premiership?.
I understand the view of Ken Livingstone is that Cameron would be out virtually the moment the result to leave was known
Oh NOooooo say the Conservative Vote LEAVE soothsayers, David Davis, Chris Grayling etc..
Sorry the reason the bulk of the nation`s electorate will vote to LEAVE is the forfeiture of TRUST particularly evident during the past couple of weeks, the dodgy dossier, and the five days extraction period before he (Cameron)revealed his alibi, but it started with the Coulson episode, it continued with Rebecca`s horse and gained strength with the dodgy faux renegotiation when his failure to include The Law, Fishing and cross border migration it revealed to all his inherent UNTRUSTWORTHYNESS.
I am disturbed that the Vote LEAVEers should be so blind and crassly stupid as to not understand that they cannot afford to be associated with any of the Remainder ideology FOREVERMORE, whether the eventual result is for or against leaving.
They cannot be one minute telling Cameron and his cronies that the whole idea of the EU is bad for the country and that to remain in all that badness and future chicanery will be locked in forever and then to say Oh well! it was a good fight but the voters have “democked” and we shall have to just swallow the lot and creep back to the fold and chew on our comfort blankets.
Please someone tell me my suspicions are groundless and that the electorate are not to be shafted by this parcel of elitist, political and Establishment lackey segged on by their champagne socialist fellow travellers.
Sorry to say it but those who in the face of evidence and experience are determined to ensure that we remain locked in to this evil monstrosity FOREVER should be classed as” the enemy within”
So chaps, having crossed the Rubicon, there`s no going back, you`re in the conspiracy (EU view of us) up to your necks so we may as well all hang together.Get your loyalties straight!!!!
Vote LEAVE and GOoooooooooo
David Jessop asked me to post this, his reply on his behalf because he is working overseas at the moment and cannot post comments:
“John and others who commented: Thank you for your replies and to John in particular for the link, which coincidentally I came across yesterday. It does indeed present an opportunity but of course it will be resisted by government. I look forward to your further comments in the expected article. Best regards and take great care, David.”
Indeed the monument to the Magna Carta was funded and erected by the American Bar Association. We have the Americans to thank for erected it.
If it had been up to our politicians the Magna Carta would not be commemorated anywhere in Runnymede. I agree if we do get out of the EU, a seriously large monument should be erected at the entrance to Westminster Palace. I would suggest a scaffold of some sort complete with rope, as a warning to others who intend to have an agenda to subsume the UK into a foreign dictatorship, but I imagine such a idea would not go down to well with those already in there.
And underneath the scaffold with the reasons it is treason.
This is illegal under the Acts of Treason 1351,and the Declaration and Bill of Rights 1688/9. The Act of Praemunire 1392 and The Act of Supremacy 1559 should be reinstated, judged “Obsolete” in the late 1960’s. Not so obsolete after all, were they?
Petition duly signed. Regarding the proposed monument I think it an excellent idea. However we would not have to wait for its completion. There is always the Tower of London. I believe it was last used for this purpose on 15th August 1941.