I am generally pretty content with my foray from journalism into politics. After launching the Daily Express Leave the EU campaign back in 2010, I found myself drawn into full time political campaigning on the same issue.
I joined UKIP, helped it win the 2014 European elections, became an MEP in the process, helped UKIP get nearly 4 million votes at the 2015 general election, backed Vote Leave for designation in the referendum (a particularly good call in my view) and then campaigned with it and other Leave groups in that victorious campaign last year.
Now, unless the electors of Epping Forest decide to overturn their longstanding MP Eleanor Laing in favour of me in the current general election (which I should have thought is not the most likely outcome), my political foray is past the halfway point. One of the happy side-effects of the referendum win is that I have helped to bring about my own redundancy in 2019, when UK MEPs disappear from the scene.
As far as I am concerned it will be job done: nine years of campaigning for an objective that most educated opinion felt was a longshot to say the least will conclude with spectacular success.
But as my mind starts to ponder a return to the media, or perhaps another career path entirely, there is a tug upon the thread of politics. The tug is not about further reclamation of sovereignty via leaving the jurisdiction of the ECHR (though I’d be in favour of that), neither is it even about bringing sanity back to the field of international development spending.
No, there is another issue that set my patriotic warning systems off quite some time ago. A political imperative that may, in time, become even more urgent than the battle to get our democracy back from the EU ever was. It is the cause of integration in our increasingly diverse and divided society.
After the Manchester terror atrocity it seems that the penny is dropping among a wider range of people than before that British society is on a very dangerous path. Integration is going backwards, while segregation advances. The ideology of multiculturalism has encouraged new ethnic and religious communities to hold true far more to their countries of origin than to Britain, their chosen country of destination.
The crisis is not confined solely to Muslim communities, but is at its most acute among them because of the spread of the pernicious ideology of Islamism and because of demographic trends too.
Yet it is not the done thing to talk about this in polite society. There has been to date a cosy consensus which holds that almost any criticism of primitive cultural practices or any investigation of a possible theological root to extremism amounts to unconscionable Islamophobia.
Notwithstanding the hullabaloo it caused – inside UKIP as well as outside – I would say my proudest moment in the party came at the launch of our integration agenda last month.
My MEP colleague Margot Parker and the London AMs Peter Whittle and David Kurten all made brilliant, courageous and progressive speeches arguing for a much more muscular approach to enforcing integration, challenging extremism and upholding tried and tested British values.
They outlined a raft of proposals, including the outlawing of full face coverings in public places, the banning of sharia councils and the first ever meaningful crackdown on the scourge of FGM.
The event was the culmination of a lot of hard work by Margot, David and Peter, helped along by the likes of me and Suzanne Evans and actively encouraged under the leadership of Paul Nuttall.
They – we – were accused of Islamophobia and even racism by journalists and politicians alike. We were held to be overblowing an allegedly minor issue in politics. Despite experts like Sir Trevor Phillips and Dame Louise Casey having warned of an integration crisis that could lead to very dangerous outcomes, the lazy and ludicrous accusation that we were adopting a Far Right agenda was hurled at us.
Even within UKIP there were surprising numbers of people who simply did not see that there is a major Islamist threat to our way of life that has to be confronted. Yet, as Paul Nuttall has put it, UKIP is proving to be ahead of the curve on this issue, just as we were on the issue of Brexit.
The mass murder of children in Manchester will surely not be the last major Islamist terror attack in this country and therefore cannot be held to mark a turning point in regard to the threat itself.
But I do believe it will mark a turning point in the approach of politics; the putting into abeyance of a response based on platitudes rather than action, the moment the volume of derisory raspberries overwhelmed all the “nothing to do with Islam” nonsense, the episode that led people of common sense to understand that the establishment does not have a handle on this escalating evil and must not be allowed to drown out calls for more effective action.
The promotion of integration around core British values such as gender equality, freedom of expression, sexual self-determination and parity of esteem before the law is one of the great challenges of our 21st Century politics. If it is not done far more successfully in the years ahead than it has been done in years gone by then the consequences will be terrible for our country.
Sympathy hashtags, vigils and platitudinous comments about extremism not defeating us (by which we mean simply that we are lucky enough individually not to have been one of the casualties of an atrocity yet) are not an adequate substitute for action. And once again it is going to need an insurgent and gutsy political force to make establishment parties confront an issue they would prefer to sweep under the carpet. It sounds to me very much like a job for UKIP.
Patrick, you write:
“I…backed Vote Leave for designation in the referendum (a particularly good call in my view)“
You, Douglas Carswell and Suzanne Evans all backed an organisation whose Chief Executive (Matthew Elliott) described one of their ‘3 Big Battles’ in the referendum campaign as “Fighting UKIP”.
Far from being ‘a particularly good call’ that seems like an act of gross disloyalty to me.
Way back in the sixties I became aware that there were people of a different race and colour amongst us. I was in secondary school before I ever saw one. Maybe it was too cold in Scotland (Idi Amins refugees refused to stay because of this). We called them Pakis, not because we were racist but because they came from Pakistan and that was a descriptive word. No such thing as racism back then.
They were welcomed, they worked hard and they integrated in the community. Their religion was their own affair. It was also the first time I came across the word Islam.
What the hell has happened since?
Simply, that there are too many and that allows them to form their own communities. This would be okay to a certain extent but that has allowed the evil amongst them to take over. It must be halted now! If we know who the bad guys are they must be taken out of circulation but I fear that it is too late.
I fear civil unrest and while the generally law abiding citizen is unarmed those with an agenda will be. In a way it may be a blessing that our military has experience in suburban warfare as we cannot defend ourselves once the failing politicians move aside (run away). If the politicians remain then the military will be used to suppress us rather than deal with the problem. Hopefully the military leaders have more sense.
I really cannot fathom any politician dealing with the problem (what problem?) They blame us instead.
William, what happened is that extremist islamist groups formed in Pakistan, Afghanistan and other hell-hole countries began exporting their militant ideas and hatred of the west to the UK. They were allowed by unheeding governments to make special visits to big cities to propagandise their views amongst immigrant communities, to set up branches of their parties and to recruit young people to keep the groups going. The young zealots agitated aggressively in schools and colleges, encouraged resentment, fostered religious fervour to replace simple observation of the faith, and even convinced young girls to wear hijabs as a statement of commitment to strict islam. There was differentiation between ‘Partial muslims’ and ‘True muslims’, which left many of the parent and grandparent generations baffled and impotent.
This was all happening from around 1990 onwards, perhaps earlier. One extremist group was (is?) Jamat-e-islami founded by Abdul Ala Mawdudi, who wrote “Islam is a revolutionary doctrine and system that overthrows governments. It seeks to overturn the whole universal social order.”
All this information and more comes from the horse’s mouth in a book by Ed Husain entitled “The Islamist: Why I joined radical Islam in Britain, what I saw inside and why I left.” He’s still a muslim, though.
So all this putrid stuff was festering for years before 7/7/05, courtesy of our wonderful politicians who couldn’t see a serious threat to our people and country if it leapt up and bit their noses off.
Our fault? Oh, no! We all know where the fault truly lies – with liblabcon and every other PC leftard luvvie group of moronic immigrant-lovers and muslim apologists that infest our HoC, HoL, Whitehall, the Westminster bubble, the MSM and the NGO do-gooding outfits.
I am going to the manifesto launch today, so it had better be good, speak to you all later on what I think of it. Bye for now.
Paul Nutall
The country and the world needs a political leader brave enough to state ‘openly and honestly’ that the Manchester atrocity and slaughter of innocents was an act of ‘Islamist Terrorism’.
Please take the opportunity to do so during the presentation of your manifesto.
No, it must be described as “Islamic terrorism”, not “Islamist terrorism”.
Terrorism is clearly mandated in the Koran. Islam has been at war with everybody else for 14 centuries. This is genuine Islam, it is not a distortion of Islam.
I`m afraid, even at my advanced age, I couldn`t tell you if our national flag was flying the wrong way up.
I am also previously unaware of the difference between “ic” and “ist” and to be quite honest, now having been apprised of the circumstances, I`m afraid it will disappear out of my ken by next week.
May already has an integration policy. Make the Muslims feel at home by welcoming their legal system and more. More privileges on the way…..
Quite right, ike! And, furthermore, we must make sure that all of these flatulant platitudes are banished from the lips of the politicians AND THE MEDIA. No more teddy bears (as Breitbart said in 2014 after the Charlie K atrocity). The same must be said about the useful idiots in our press and media who insist on repeating the absurd lies (TAQIYA) mouthed by Muslims.
We could also shed some light on from where this agenda of flooding Northern Europe with immigrants actually emanates.
This is worth reading, at least one man from the world of the Arts understands reality.
https://www.facebook.com/Morrissey/posts/1349891061714098
This is the clarity with which UKIP’s leadership should be speaking now, & driving at the Liblabcon with boldness & political aggression; instead all I’ve heard from that quarter is silence, & the pathetic going along with the crowd silly gesture of “cancelling campaigning for a given period”.
Where is the leadership of UKIP?
Sleeping, as they are out of their comfort zone.
Good for Morrissey. We need more well-known people like him to speak up and speak out, but most are cowards.
Integration, as we have observed for the last 60 years or more, is the impossible dream of the indoctrinated masses that cannot see beyond the end of their noses. It is only possible when all agree on its form but we have a significant minority (for now) of our population, primarily Muslims, who simply do not want integration but want to turn our country into one resembling their country of origin.
The integration agenda is a great example of Einstein’s definition of madness; doing the same thing time and again but expecting a different result.
The time has come to enforce our Law and become intolerant of any who break it or seek to change it to their benefit over ours. If they cannot accept our Law as it stands then they must leave for a country where they would be at home.
Jack, I know that Integration (maybe it should be assimilation) is never going to be achieved, but don’t we have to call it something, because we need a label to encompass Sharia Halal Burka and FGM for the general public to get their heads around? People understand that Muslims don’t, on the whole, integrate in our society, and to me, explaining this policy to others, the point of it is that it needs to happen. If it doesn’t happen, British Law needs to be enforced. Don’t you think that is easier for people to understand. Integration is a concept that can be understood, and we now have so many British Muslims that we need a concept to offer. Not that it will be taken up, but it has to be seen to be offered , imo.
On the Jon Gaunt Show a TEACHER rang in, he used to be Labour left but now he has swung to the right, because something must be done about Islam – he said it was simple, people didn’t need to be Muslims, even if they were born into the faith. If it was distasteful to them, they should just leave, he said, after all, no one was making them be Muslim. Word for word. That’s what we are dealing with, Jack T. Even he might understand an Integration Policy!
You delineate the problem Dee. Integration has to be forced in as far as even possible by bannings. Instant comdemnation. Duties as well as rights might be a better line. Duty to fit in or leave.
Perhaps, Mike. Duty as a British citizen? Might be grasped more easily, in fact the more I think about it, the better it sounds.
Integrationism is fundamentally flawed on a logical conceptual basis, & will do nothing to avert the gathering societal danger the 1st World is in.
The issue is foreign mass migration, not cultural practices (or “values” as it’s pathetically being described by the idiotic Cultural Marxist dominated political/media class that England & Wales has been, & is being, bloody awfully ruled by for the last 40 years).
If O’Flynn can’t think more clearly than this perhaps it’s better that he was back in Fleet Street reporting & commenting on Westminster shenanigans than working in the field of political theorizing & radical politics. That Integrationist “ban the burqa” press conference was badly misjudged & quite awful in every way.
Yes, it could have been done better, but at least they were on the right track until derailing themselves with the blocking of Anne Marie Waters.
Integration ‘flawed’? It’s a hell of a sight better than the ridiculous failure known as multiculturalism, otherwise known as ‘build your own ghetto and pretend you’re still in Pakistan’.
Integration needs to be an either/or proposition: EITHER integrate into British society and culture, obeying ITS laws, not your own; OR go and live somewhere else and go now while there’s a special offer on.
Trying via Integrationism to avert the disastrous societal conflict that is inherent to mass migration of foreign peoples into others’ territories, is like trying to bail out the Titanic after its been holed by the iceberg using a chain-link line of passengers with buckets: delusory.
Ajax,
So what is your solution to this? to deport the lot which we know is impossible, you need to come up with some practical answer.
@Duck, the priority is to stop any further migration from the 2nd & 3rd World into England & Wales in order to impede the foreign presence already here amassing enough strength of numbers to challenge for dominion of ground. If their numbers are allowed to reach this point & that starts across the 1st World, things will can become very bad, very quickly, on a far greater scale potentially than pin-prick terrorist incidents. This applies to all foreign populations from the 2nd & 3rd World seeking to migrate for settlement, not just those of any particular religious persuasion.
Once the invasion’s (strong word, but that’s what’s going on in practical consequence) flow has been choked-off, those that are here lack numbers for a territorial challenge to take place, & will be fairly docile in consequence – as they have been for the last 5 decades, living their own culture lives in private & abiding by our laws & civic culture beyond, & outbreaks of low level terrorism such as this incident in Manchester can be contained by the police forces & criminal law (backed up by the military where necessary) over time, as it was when the Irish did it via Fenian terrorism from 1969-1994.
Where we are bound for now – along with most of the rest of 1st World – with the Liblabcon’s insane immigration policy is the place that Powell warned about in 1968 in ‘Rivers of Blood’.
Donald.
The problem is getting a mainstream party to start seriously discussing the main long term issues facing our nation.
A party that is willing to be radical. I hope we can make UKIP that party.
The ruling classes have crushed debate but once we have a party willing to take on the globalists the policy options and solutions will follow.
Ajax.
The mass immigration is part of the globalist agenda.
We need a party with radical policies that can challenge and reject this agenda.
The voters will only vote for radical policies if they come from an established party.
My approach is make UKIP the anti-globalist party via grassroots pressure.
I suggest we on this forum start an internal pressure group to campaign and win over the party membership.
Then when elections come due to vote in the appropriate people to the NEC and leadership.
Of course we would first need to agree what these radical policies should be.
I do detect a shared longer term vision for our nation on this forum so despite the range of opinion I am confident this is possible.
I hope we all continue talking and once the GE is over make a start on getting more organised.
Brilliant, Maximus! I love your energy, determination and vision.
Would Patrick support this?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4536842/Muslim-psychiatrist-calls-cut-Islamic-immigration.html
“Short-term curb on islamic immigration”? Let’s make that very long-term, shall we, as in ‘no more islamic immigration – ever’. And take steps to encourage most of the ones here to go home, wherever it is. It’s not this country, which is OUR home.
Self-praise is no praise Patrik. Your waffling smugness is as irritating as it is unsurprising. Just when we needed HQ, the NEC & the MEPs to step up the game after Brexit they dropped the ball completely. No leadership, no accountability, no credible output. I will stand again for the third time on June 8th, knowing the strong vote my branch and I had built up has collapsed due to your & HQs incompetence and inactivity. Years of work and thousands of pounds out of my own pocket squandered by you and your well expensed coterie. Now we are days off the Election, the postal vote has gone out, many hustings are already complete, the news hi-jacked by events and our candidates still don’t have a manifesto. We have not been out manoevered, we have simple not turned up to the game for a critical year. Your avoidance of key issues like the Islamification of the UK shows the lack of courage needed. Your mumblings about better integration shows your utter lack of understanding if Islam and its openly stated aims.
Just when we needed a Captain and sails to lead and power us forward, we were given the nightwatchman and an anchor to hold us back. Your performance review: SNLR.
Mike, what a truly heartfelt expression of exasperation and anger from someone who has worked so hard to make UKIP the Party for Britain. I am so struck by your post – and so gutted that so many have put so much work, talent and energy into UKIP, only to have it thrown away by this clueless cabal
Hopefully post GE your branch will, as many posters here do, want to call for change.
My grateful thanks to you for at least giving people the chance to vote for a Party other than Lib/Lab/Con, but we have yet to discover, as you say, what we represent. I imagine the tardiness was because the Leadership actually have no idea what they stand for, apart from Brexit.
Patrick, thank you for engaging with readers on this site. It was a brave thing to do especially since if you are visiting this site regularly you must know that some members on here, free to voice their anger despair and disillusionment about those currently leading UKIP, frequently do. I fully endorse the comments and questions asked by Russel, Citizenkain, Donald Duck and I am sorry to add Stout’s pithy comment to my approval list.
I was delighted when the very well (imo) named Integration Policy was announced, though I never imagined that prospective councillors would be left with only that Policy to campaign on – where were the others, and surely we should have led with a press conference about Brexit and our Red Lines? Did you consult Anne Marie, who is a member and has a wealth of knowledge before you launched our Integration Policy, I wonder?
However, perhaps you could pass on to Head Office that all Margot, David and Peter’s efforts were immediately squandered when, only days later, Anne Marie was deselected – which sent the message loud and clear that UKIP weren’t serious. Only Anne Marie’s inclusion might have countered the dreadful messages of appeasement that went out from Stoke. And shortly after that, no one in the ‘clueless cabal’ stood up for Gerard Batten following his excellent Mohammedism article.
People all over Britain are asking, who can we vote for that will put forward the sensible policies needed to counter the threat Britain, it is now all to obvious to most, faces us? Those members that are left in the Party try to push UKIP, but up pops the Stoke leaflet, and often, Anne Marie’s deselection. So the Leadership have tied our hands, unfortunately.
Hear, hear, Dee. Sure, it’s nice to see a ‘name’ at the top of an article and know that we’re not being ignored completely by the hierarchy, but here on ukipdaily we’ve been fulminating for months about the government’s failure to control islam and the PC politicians’ denial that islamaniacs pose a grave threat to this country’s future.
We actually thought at one point that UKIP might have the guts to speak the truth and nothing but the truth about islam, but Stoke foiled that expectation. Then came the Integration Policy and a bit of hope, promptly extinguished by the cowardly sidelining of Anne Marie Waters and the weak failure of Nuttall to back Gerard Batten and his realistic description of islam.
In other words, we’re sick of being jerked around by Paul’s mealy-mouthed reluctance to state the truth and to hell with the libtard/leftard/MSM/PC conspiracy to dismiss UKIP’s concerns as a sinister joke. If UKIP had the courage of our convictions and voiced the justifiable fears and anger of the majority, we’d get their votes. But this pussy-footing about is just tiresome and off-putting; it saps confidence and enthusiasm.
You’ve come a bit late to the group discussion, Patrick, and don’t need to persuade US of UKIP’s future direction – we’re already in agreement on that point and waiting for good, honest, straight-talking leadership. First, that policy of banning halal slaughter so sneakily changed to labelling halal meat, needs restoring immediately. One law for ALL and that means ALL animals stunned to kill, not stunned to stun; and NO halal meat on the market. That would be a good start, followed by no sharia, no FGM, no burkhas, no more mosques.
Instead of denying so-called ‘islamophobia’, embrace it and snatch the silly word out of the mouths of Leftard howlers. I AM an islamophobe because the koran promotes, hatred, violence and the oppression of women. There are many other reasons, but they’ll do for now.
Patrick,
I welcome your appearance “at last” (belated) on UKIP daily and have read your script and all the comments.
I am not going to add to them either pro or con, except to say that I am disappointed in your whole sojourn here in UKIP.
I don`t know if you ever read the old forum, but when you joined UKIP I posted comments of welcome and expressed hopes that you would be “nasty” enough and fulfill the role of an “Alistair Campbell” in that you would reorganize dissemination of information, both to the MSM and internally and get our message across; in that we would all sing from the same hymn sheet – “your hymn sheet” in effect
(remember the pagers all Labour MPs had to carry), that if you said “we don`t do….such and such” to our leader or others – we and they didn`t!!!.
I was looking for you to be the one; the strong man behind the scenes, who knocked all the warring heads together.
I was also looking for a “Super Sales Manager” we had a wonderful USP in UKIP welded to Nigel and we really needed “market management” as well as Sales staff who were the grass roots members who had to sell the product on the streets.
I don`t know if you were ever “the man” to fill the job description or whether you weren`t allowed to get on with what was necessary, I certainly know you fell at one hurdle with your “wealth tax” and perhaps it was always because there is a deep divide between “wet and tainted Conservative thinking” of those who latterly joined from that political persuasion and the dyed in the wool “old hands” who had put the money in and made UKIP what it was until they set out to euphemistically professionalise it (take it over and weld it into something it isn`t or wanted to be) (it`s Nigel`s fault partly – he invited them in, as part of his plans to reverse takeover into that party c/f the Canadian experience).
Anyway all that said, you are correct there is a problem about which, the majority of the media, politicians and the public are ignorant or are afraid to discuss, Manchester, whether it likes it or not may be the catalyst for this whole issue to blow apart; personally I am furious rather than complacent that this should be done under our noses, with the excuse “we catch loads before they do it, but somebody somewhere will always get through, we just have to unite and stand strong blah blah, blah”
It`s not pleasant being a doom monger, but as you say there is a need for UKIP, I am still prepared to say I`m a member of UKIP, as I did yesterday to some innocent chap waiting with me while my exhaust was fixed.He didn`t get the full lecture, but he did agree with me on a lot of stuff
Those that read UKIP Daily will know I have compared UKIP and its organization and leadership to as Zombie Company ; It`s now up to you and your pals to listen to the story we promote on here of ALL the dangers of Islam and its long term takeover plans and its inevitability through sheer growth of numbers in the not too far distant future.
It must be stopped in its tracks NOW, before it is too late.
Patrick thank you for giving us some perspective on the danger we are all in and the way some people think and react to this. To show weakness and submission, especially when it’s promoted by those in government, is to invite more of the same.
It’s not passed me by that this outrage and the one before it was, we are told, perpetrated by a born in Britain terrorist. I believe this is no accident but part of a strategy to lead people to believe that dealing with the immigration issue, which to my mind is in reality an invasion, will not solve the problem. A strategy we need to counter.
PS. Good luck in the election.
Patrick,
I also thank you for coming on this site to put your case, but I have several questions I would like to ask you firstly, what took you so long? And I have to tell you I am not very interested in your career. Secondly, what about that Halal leaflet in Stoke? You seem to have conveniently forgotten about that and the sucking up to senior muslims who were behind it. Thirdly, what are your views on the deselection of Anne Marie Waters? Now, I understand you may not have been involved in that decision but you must have an opinion, and as you are so close to Paul Nuttall who apparently was responsible for deselecting her you either agree or disagree with it.
Like most UKIP MEPs you have been bone idle this last 12 months at least in terms of your presence and involvement in Brussels.
Where is the democracy and accountability in UKIP?
Where is our manifesto? We are too late for the postal voters to read it before voting!
Why did AnnMarie Waters get deselected?
Why was the Stoke campaign an utter shambles?
Why are you standing in an unwinnable seat at the GE rather than a winnable one like Hornchurch?
You have been well paid to be an MEP and we expect more from you than ordinary members. Consider yourself ‘lucky’ that effectively you have had a free ride on the gravy train.
How many UKIP members have not renewed membership in the last 12 months?
Why is John Rees Evans sidelined despite the crying need for an online presence?
Why were you plotting against UKIP leadership in Llandudno last year? (I tried to speak to you and Suzanne but were brushed aside).
MASS INTERNMENT OF ALL SUSPECT MUSLIM TERRORISTS NOW
Save Our Children from the subhumans.
First six paragraphs are the author preoccupied with himself. Yet, the article is supposed to be a response to the Manchester bombing as catalyst for a change in our response to the lack of integration. But there are no concrete proposals for action. This article appears to be no more than using Manchester for self-promotion and virtue signalling.
This MEP is not worth his salt. he thinks he can walk on water but he is up to his neck in the excrement of intrigue.
We really don’t need Breitbartian comments on here, CK.
Robust yes, vituperativeness, no thanks.
Q, I was interested in CK’s comment because I am thinking he could be referring to the replacement of Nathan Gill in Wales, who, whatever his continuing as an MEP tangle, was loved by many many UKIP voters. I think I mentioned at the time that my partner, who has a local market stall, was besieged by people livid at Nathan’s ousting, who said they didn’t vote for Hamilton and would never vote UKIP again. They may not have understood the constitutional problems, but they knew what they felt was a stitch-up when they saw it. None currently support UKIP that he asks these days.
The reason for a lack of concrete proposals is because of the torrnt of media ordure which will descend if anything at all specific were suggested. Not that it would work anyway. Discrimination you see. So write platitudes any mainstream politician might spue. Nice salary though. I think the people running UKIP honest;y believe it is a mainstream party with a hereditary vote so play the same sort of narratives.
It’s taken a massive bomb in Manchester to slightly agitate Patrick O’Flynn into action after a year of near inaction since the referendum, leaving UKIP on the floor in opinion polls. You Patrick, as a senior member of ‘the UKIP management’ have done almost NOTHING about UKIP’s dismal image or output, the website is appalling, facebook is appalling, there have been NO, NIL, ZERO UKIP videos worth watching (note the numbers of viewers of Paul Joseph watson’s videos…without an MEPs fat salary and perks). You have done NOTHING with the other well paid MEPs to produce good newspapers or leaflets for Stoke, which was winnable but screwed up by UKIP incompetence. YOU are supposed to be UKIP’s economics spokesman, but there’s nothing in members email boxes, nothing on the website, just a rumour of a cameo piece in The Sun. We don’t even have a manifesto. In short, though you spend the first few paragraphs above telling us how great your contribution has been to UKIP and Brexit, it is in fact microscopic. Martin Durkin and Michael Gove did much more. You, like so many other politicians, live in a bubble of your own fantasy self importance. Since June 23rd last year, UKIP, and that’s you, have been an utter disgrace and disappointment for the thousands of hard working, street slogging UKIP supporters. If you quit UKIP today, no one would even notice. We’re now on 4% in the polls, have you got your excuses ready for June 9th why everyone and everything else ‘conspired against’ UKIP when you lot couldn’t organise a the proverbial in a brewery. Most UKIP MEPs have simply lived off Nigel Farage’s sweat, since he’d been off the scene it’s crystal clear to everyone. Not that he can now come back. UKIP needs some fresh faces, the MEPs, apart from a small few, have been a massive disappointment. Giving people Brussels salaries has, as predicted, bought their silence.
You’re attacking the wrong man, Russell.
It’s your sweating hero you should be more concerned about.
Without Nigel Farage, there would never have been UKIP and there would never have been a referendum. He’s made mistakes, nobody is perfect but Nigel, more than anyone else since Thatcher, has changed British politics…for the better. Now there is a mighty vacuum.
Yes we owe a great deal to him – he probably won us the referendum. Trouble is he can’t win elections because he’s marmite on the doorstep and eschewed the open goal of the Labour vote, he’s been personally and virulently anti many with whom he should have done more to foster a more united front, and he deserted us precipitately and irresponsibly.
Let’s have some realism, Russell.
Every word you wrote is correct Russell Hicks. Nigel Farage ‘warts and all’ has been a giant surrounded by pygmies. Now that Nigel has departed the pathetic quality of most MEPs is laid bare..one week as leader and the dithers, a fist fight, intrigues to continue on the gravy train by joining the tories, cabals and counter cabals in Wales so that no-one knows the truth, and then we have this pompous ass trumpeting his contribution to the referendum result. We won because of tens of thousands of loyalists who got the message out to the doorsteps and energised the trad non voters that it was now or never. We just did it but Flynn and co were not major players. Economics spokesman? Don’t make me laugh!
Patrick
Thank you for coming on here. Your efforts to broaden our economic appeal to all patriotic people are much appreciated, by this reader at least.
There will always be a need for UKIP, because on the issue of the EU alone we have to keep the pressure up on Brexit and stay vigilant to safeguard our independence into the foreseeable future.
The Integration initiative is much to be welcomed – but it really needs to include all ritual slaughter, by any group. We cannot allow this to become ‘a British value’.
Please stay and help the fight for our country.
Patrick you are right and the as you say platitudes abound. You say that you might return to the “media”; I have a request that if you do please crusade against the continuous MSM drivel and undermining of our efforts to combat terrorism. The 24hr constant crass questioning by journalists provides propaganda and plays into the hands of those who wish to do us harm. The media fails to ask the fundamental questions about religious extremism; it actively promotes business as usual and multi culturism. It has got to the point that we need questions to be asked about those who ask the questions and the organisations they work for.
So why did you lot at the top deselect AM Waters when her local members had chosen her as their candidate?
Agreed they shouldn’t – but don’t blame Patrick for that.
Is asking a question blaming? Not that I expect a reply.
Sounds a bit like it to me, John
Frankly I couldn’t care less what it sounds like to you.
The Islamists are not going to ‘integrate’. They have a growing and effective world movement behind them and are driven by ideology. This is selling another fake solution like the last one – multiculti. Ahead of the curve? I don’t think so. They want to be driven underground more since that increases their radicalism and ‘martyrdom’.