Niall Ferguson is a professor of history at Harvard, a senior fellow of the Hoover Institution, Stanford, and the author of Kissinger, 1923-1968: The Idealist (Penguin). His Politics is Right-Wing, a Thatcherite, although he does write for The Times which is not spectacularly known for its Right-Wing support these days. The Sunday Times published an article of his on Sunday.
In it, he talks at length on the sacking of Rome by the Goths. He quotes from Edward Gibbons “History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” published as 6 volumes between 1766 and 1788:
In the hour of savage licence, when every passion was inflamed, and every restraint was removed . . . a cruel slaughter was made of the Romans; and . . . the streets of the city were filled with dead bodies . . . Whenever the Barbarians were provoked by opposition, they extended the promiscuous massacre to the feeble, the innocent, and the helpless. . .
Ferguson then commented:
Now, does that not describe the scenes we witnessed in Paris on Friday night
He then talked at length about the different interpretations on how long it took Rome to fall, whether it was a process spread over centuries, or a sudden fall. He says modern historians now see it as a rapid fall. He quotes from the work of Bryan Ward-Perkins:
“violent seizure . . . by barbarian invaders… witnessed horrors and dislocation of a kind I sincerely hope never to have to live through; and it destroyed a complex civilisation, throwing the inhabitants of the West back to a standard of living typical of prehistoric times”
In that author’s estimation the end of civilisation came within a single generation. And just with our situation, it was a combination of mass migration and violence, where the migrants learnt skills from the Romans that some turned to violence against them. Doesn’t that ring a bell?
Ferguson himself writes:
“Uncannily similar processes are destroying the European Union today, though few of us want to recognise them for what they are. Like the Roman Empire in the early fifth century, Europe has allowed its defences to crumble. As its wealth has grown, so its military prowess has shrunk, along with its self-belief. It has grown decadent in its shopping malls and sports stadiums. At the same time it has opened its gates to outsiders who have coveted its wealth without renouncing their ancestral faith.”
There is another quote from Ward-Perkins at the end of Ferguson’s article:
“Romans before the fall were as certain as we are today that their world would continue for ever substantially unchanged. They were wrong. We would be wise not to repeat their complacency.”
Ferguson ends his article with the words: “Poor, poor Paris. Killed by complacency.”
Now, that article in itself is extremely perceptive, informing and proselytising, but the comments are an eye-opener, for The Times. Quite often filled with renegade commenters from The Guardian and The Independent, the tone of all the comments was 100% behind what Ferguson wrote. Here are a few:
Oil and water. Our leaders flail around in their self-importance whilst ignoring history and legitimate indigenous revulsion at what they allow to happen. They try to make virtue of multiculturalism whilst it kills us one day at a time.
We do not have many more days. Nothing less than the complete removal of Islam from Europe will suffice from here on in. When your government ignores your borders there is no country and no legitimate applicable laws.
We will have anarchy or war or both. No sane man should pay taxes to fund the destruction of his own country.
Robin Paine said:
And yet the very basic of all basic requirements is the ability to control one’s borders, which isn’t even in Cameron’s list of renegotiation ‘demands’ (or pleas). Even the simplest soul should be able to understand that if nothing changes, other EU countries will issue these ‘millions’ of refugees with EU passport and there is nothing we can do to stop them entering Britain. It’s almost the same as if we had no borders.
We have to get out of the EU, regain our sovereignty in total and do what is in the interests of Britain and not 27 other countries, who couldn’t give a toss about us. We might then put ourselves in with a chance of avoiding what Niall Ferguson correctly says, history repeating itself.
Hallelluia. I wrote basically the same thing, in far less eloquent terms, on various comment threads yesterday. The liberal Western Elite have deliberately compromised our security and destroyed our defences – and they did it because their obsession with creating a United States of Europe, with ever expanding borders, trumps everything.
The barbarians are inside because the gates were dismantled and the borders were thrown open. The latest influx of Muslims from the middle east, Asia and Africa is just the latest episode in the process. When the EU / Merkel decided to invite and allow millions of uneducated, misogynistic Muslims to swarm unchecked and unchallenged into Europe, they hit the self-destruct button. They chose to turn Europe into the same kind of hell-hole that is the middle east.
European civilisation cannot absorb millions of Muslims who cling to their backward, bigoted religion and who will not integrate.
And finally, Chris Huckle said:
So much of this rings true, especially the hollow empty rhetoric of Hollande and many western leaders about “dealing” with this threat. It will not be without being extremely un-PC , having the guts to say our western values and societies are so much better than the backward Islamic cultures and treat it and its adherents in the same way we would protect our borders against the rabies virus with zero tolerance .
If an 85 year old granny can be jailed for holocaust denial then surely any sympathy with a much more dangerous adherence deserves even more draconian punishment? We are in a fight for survival here and cannot extend our tolerance to those who would destroy us or even its apologists.