I think we’ve been brilliantly outmaneuvered since the BREXIT referendum. Theresa May was gerrymandered into position, almost immediately afterwards, she took some nine months to initiate Article 50 and this has given her plenty of time to plot and scheme against us.
In a few weeks, there will be a general election, many of us in UKIP are terrified to vote for our own party because we feel we need to the Conservatives to stay in power to see through Brexit. Theresa May has told us: you must vote Conservative if you wish there to be a successful BREXIT: she’s almost persuaded even us UKIPpers to vote for her party. Political Spin, gerrymandering and subterfuge at its finest and we’ve seen these scare tactics before at the last election: we shouldn’t be fooled like this again.
The Conservatives are going to win the coming election, whether we vote for them or not. This is a worry, they have no real opposition, they will become increasingly dictatorial. My theory, is that Jeremy Corbyn was gerrymandered into Labour’s leadership position to discredit the Labour party How and why else would such a clown gain such an appointment. In five or even ten years, we’ll have become accustomed to an unopposed, dictatorial party being in power It is a possibility that we’ll never see a true opposition again, our democratic nation will be just as much over as much as if we’d stayed in the European Union and we’re not out yet.
I’m not surprised by all the above. When I think about how our democracy has been under constant surreptitious and insidious assault for decades, I’m amazed that it has lasted this long. I and I think that goes for most of us, certainly wouldn’t trust May or the Conservatives with BREXIT, they just didn’t plan to lose the referendum. Unfortunately, the Conservatives and the Eurocrats, through the use of a smoke and mirrors campaign, that is unfortunately brilliant, are well under way to undermining our democratic decision and the British must wake up to this.
With the huge majority that the Conservatives are predicted to win in the election, there won’t be much that we can do to stop them, whatever stitch up they try and impose on us over BREXIT. We’re already being told that we’ll likely be tied to the European Court of Human Rights for a number of years after Brexit. Uncontrolled immigration is likely to continue for the foreseeable future.
It is in the Conservatives’ interest to allow immigration to continue, it will further disenfranchise us native British and UKIP will be finished as anything of any significance, before the next election in 2022/3 and certainly by the one after that.
This coming election is the last chance for us indigenous British to have any significant representation in our own political system. What is to be done?
Many years ago, I was sitting in my garden with strawberries, cream and a bottle of Champagne, watching Wimbledon on TV. There was a very tense final, I can’t even remember who the players were, but I learnt an important lesson. The favourite had lost two sets and badly, it was down to match point in the third set. Amazingly, instead of cracking up, the favourite, returned serve and went on to win the game, followed by the set, the further two sets and then the match.
This is the mark of a champion! This was one of the most important lessons I have ever learnt in my life: champions don’t ever give up or quit, it is what distinguishes a brilliant tennis player, sportsman, businessman or politician from a true champion.
This is where we native British are today, we are at match point, we’ve been brilliantly outmaneuvered, but we mustn’t give up. It has been expressed here that there is some dissatisfaction with the UKIP leadership. We must succeed in-spite of them, not give up because of them: in truth, it’s not about UKIP it’s about our country and putting the Great back into Britain.
We British, must make sure that our wishes are represented in our government. We won’t win the coming election, but we can gain representation and a voice; without it were lost, it’s our last chance. Without a voice in parliament, the years of struggle to get and win the Brexit referendum will have been in vain.
We must wake up the leadership of UKIP, they should be making a lot more noise than they are. Perhaps we should also remember the ancient proverb:
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend’
I’m going to tentatively suggest that maybe, given the gravity of the situation, that UKIP should talk to some of the other political parties with similar objectives to our own. As I’ve said, this is about our country not about UKIP, we need as much help as we can to get the message out there in a very short space of time. Failure at this point means that we will lose our beloved country unless we are to resort to many years of chaos and violence.
There’s another saying that perhaps we should remember:
“adversity makes for strange bedfellows”
When I am an old man, I want to be in my garden, with my strawberries, cream and Champagne, watching Wimbledon: not on my knees praying to Allah.
BOSTON IS WINNABLE AND IT SHOULD BE UKIP’S TEA PARTY
Whatever we think of Nuttall he is the leader of the party and is our voice to the Nation via bbc etc.(correction evilbbc).
Nuttall has surrounded himself with careerists and plunderers; indeed most of the elite of UKIP (MEPs and NEC) appear to be in that category.Take Carver as an example – he is spokesman for UKIP as well as MEP. What has he ever done which is memorable apart from resigning from his portfolio AT THE BEGINNING OF A VITAL GENERAL ELECTION? Because he did not get consulted on the Integration Policy proposal for our manifesto.
Nuttal could win in Boston but then so could the delightful Victoria Ayling and other more local candidates. Nuttal has chosen the ripest plum in the bowl, he was put off Harlepool by some good old fashioned northern rowdiness – what a wimp. It is the Norse blood running in the veins of some Highlanders, Border Reivers, and some Lancastrians amongst others that helped them go for Brexit.(Most place names in Cumberland and the Dales and North Lancshire are Norse).
If he wins then we still need to bring him to book; if he loses he is toast and we could reform the party.Why then do I yearn for his victory? Quite simply if we get a few MPs then UKIP cannot be written off with media assisted implosion commencing. A few MPs would be a voice in Parliament against soft Brexit and it would be LA ANTORCHA DE LIBERTAD. A few good men in Parliament is all we need to begin the fight for full BREXIT.
The globalist and internationalists and marxists and vested interests and (self styled) intellectuals are not going to surrender just yet. We will have to fight them inch by inch then yard by yard then furlong by furlong. Welcome to the secret ten years of war by other means.
PS Evans Suzanne on R4 Broadcasting House this morning happy to sneer at Farage and Trump.
PPS how many MEPs will be standing for Parliament and where?
I forgot to mention BOSTON 2015 won by new tory Matt Warman who is a foolish remainiac 19,000 votes ( rounded). Local lad for UKIP Hunter Clark got 15,000 votes followed by johnny nobody for Labour on 7,000 and sillybilly for libdems on 1,000 votes.
Half the labour vote could go to UKIP and some remainiacs toryvotes could switch to libdems. The biggest burning issue in Boston is Immigration. The second issue is Immigration. For ordinary working people with deep roost in Fentiger land immigration is the subject that has most upset them.
Nuttall is not politically capable enough to lead UKIP. That has been blindingly obvious since Stoke. What happens in circumstances like that is that capable people get purged as a threat. This is what the junking of AMW is about. Broadly the same thing happened to the BNP as it sank into oblivion. When the leadership find they can do what they like their contempt for the members grows. Along the road some money is made. It’s a sad but common path in small parties.
Too much concentration on Islam will achieve very little. For all our sakes leave it alone now, UKIP’s policy has been expressed, be satisfied with that and move on to other things equally important. We have freedom of worship in this country, if not moral freedom to ignore our culture.
The danger in a huge Tory Majority, The possibility of Brexit Lite, reform of the Lords and the electoral system, foreign aid, HS2, English votes for English laws, proper funding of local government and other proposals that will gain us votes.
Sorry, I am not a AMW fan, she has some good points but needs to do her own thing outside UKIP. This is a public site and you are making us look like a single issue party again.
As UKIP is not prepared to sponsor Anne Marie Waters perhaps she could stand somewhere as an ‘Independant’.
We should find a way to fund AMW; we need her in parliament. Transfer of upcoming UKIP membership fees to the cause would be a good start.
For the next couple of months Brexit comes first. If UKIP wants to survive and do good later we must be realistic now. UKIP fought for 20+ years to get to this point we must support Team Brexit at this election.
UKIP won’t get a decent vote share in this particular general election, and that’s nothing to be ashamed of. We need to say clearly that we’re putting Brexit ahead of party. UKIP should be very selective about where it stands and publicly recommend tactical voting by our supporters everywhere else, which is what most UKIP supporters are going to do anyway.
Suddenly going hard on Islamification less than 2 months before a Brexit focussed General Election would be counter productive. It will keep till later in the summer. UKIP has made its pitch on Islam and integration, which is absolutely the right thing to do, now we should leave it there until the election is done and dusted or we’ll look totally out of touch and inappropriate.
SK – I don’t deny there is a need for tactical voting, the enemy are doing it too. Blair is trying to encourage people to vote for remainer Conservatives, everybody’s at it.
I just think we need to be careful not to let May trample all over us.
If you look at this article by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in the Telegraph, it gives a frightening insight into what were up against with the EU. It’s why I think Nuttall and particularly Theresa May will sell us out. There are certainly some eerie parallels.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/04/29/unsettling-account-raises-disturbing-questions-europes-monetary/
Flyer, I have just read the article in the Telegraph and, like you, I also see eerie parallels with our referendum. At the time of the Greek referendum I thought Tsipras, having won the referendum, went into talks with the EU holding all the democratic cards. He came out of the talks looking as if he had been waterboarded. Seems I was right.
There’s a great article by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in the Telegraph today, about events in Greece in 2015.
Everybody should read this, you’ll understand exactly what were up against with the EU, how evil it really is.
It is a premium article, but if you register with the Telegraph, they allow you one premium article a month free, I suggest this one.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/04/29/unsettling-account-raises-disturbing-questions-europes-monetary/
I’m standing for ukip. Spending hard earned on 57,000 leaflets. This is referendum 2 disguised as an election and May is an enemy of Brexit. Look at her record. Needs to be exposed every chance we get.
Today I’m with the BBC and AMW. And Nutkin deselected her. WFT. Huge sharia issue but utterly irrelevant to this election. But v important to ukip followers.
Tory candidates stuffed with remainers to produce weakest possible Brexit. And our expert at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory does this. Un be fking lievable.
Is he a Tory plant or just a complete moron ..
Can someone pls explain to Nutkin what our campaign pledges mean and get that reversed asap.
What’s the point of spending thousands with that idiot in charge?
So what if the Tories get a big majority. It is not the end of opposition or democracy. We have been here before: Thatcher and Blair enjoyed large majorities. Where I do really agree with you is the deployment of “smoke and mirrors” to effectively keep us so aligned with the EU that re-joining would be straightforward. This now is the hope of the establishment and remainers.
For the Tories to have such a large majority at this point, I feel is dangerous. I think The Powers That Be have had enough of democracy and if we get sucked back into the EU, which is after all anti-democratic, they’ll do away with democracy almost entirely. Democracy has already become a bit of a pantomime to fob of the masses and it has hardly been respected by the remainers.
I may be just speculating, but I have a horrible feeling that I’m not far wrong. As I’ve said by the 2022/3 election, the demographic will be totally against UKIP.
Not wrong, Flyer, imo. Junker said ” democracy cannot be allowed to get in the way of the project” – I think that was after the Greek elections.
Agree too about demographics by the 22/23 election, that’s why it was so important to have Anne Marie out there NOW – at least we might get the conversation going, and even gain votes.
People are noting that many Tory Remainers are standing. I don’t keep up with that sort of thing, but if true, and they are now so called ‘Brexiteers’, might it be that May will have a large majority in HofC for a Brexit that is Brexit in name only – there would be very little opposition to it.
No we haven’t been outmanoevred at all, Flyer – we’ve simply had another demonstration of the Tories’ ruthless partisanship disguised as the national interest, and too many of us are falling for it. They are not to be trusted.
But if they’re going to win whatever we do, why are you being so pusillanimous? We must all vote for our Party wherever it fields a candidate.
I didn’t say anything about not voting for UKIP, I just meant that we could do with some help help to get the message out there in such a short space of time. I’m for us native Brits sticking together and I admit party politics isn’t my thing really.
I don’t actually give a damn about UKIP, what I do care about is my country and our way of life. I’m ruthless and mercenary, I’ll side with anyone that’s going to help us get our country back.
I hate Theresa May, but she’s clever or at least her advisors are, she’ll outmaneuver us and I reckon is already well on the way to doing so. Paul Nuttall I’m afraid is not the champion we need right now.
Well, yes, I, too, want to be in my garden with my strawberries, cream and champagne, not sure about watching Wimbledon but certainly not on my knees praying to Allah. And, yes, adversity can make strange bedfellows. What, then, are you suggesting, precisely?
“UKIP should talk to some of the other political parties with similar objectives to our own”. Who are they?
I’m sure you can figure it out, it’s not for me to say. I would though ignore Nuttall and have a chat to that nice Anne Marie Waters.
Given Nuttalls grovelling to Islam, maybe he should also be thinking of buying a big tube of KY, so his eyes don’t water.
In respect of your saying about Nuttall grovelling to Islam, I’ve been wondering if he grew that awful beard for allah (deliberate small ‘a’).
EXEMPLARILY PRAGMATIC!
I attended a talk by Anne Marie Waters on 21.03.2017 in The Eastbrook Pub in Dagenham. I was highly impressed by the quality of deductive development in her logic.
Although I do not remember her actually saying so, I know that Sharia Law and Democracy are incompatible.