Anne Marie Waters was held at a police station yesterday, with no charge, against her will. We are glad that she was eventually released and made it safely home.
We don’t yet know the details as to the reason, if any, why Anne Marie was held. It is, however, reasonable to assume that an appropriate response from Kippers everywhere would be to redouble our commitment to free speech.
To that end, here are Anne Marie Waters’ thoughts on the upcoming “Brexit General Election” – please do share far and wide.
AMW’s manifesto is extremely concerning.
On page 2 of her manifesto there is the below passage:
“ (a written constitution).. This should enshrine the best of past and present; we should honour traditional British institutions and values, and combine them with the progress made on civil and political rights over the last few decades….”
This seemingly innocuous sentence should be setting off ear splittingly loud alarm bells in the minds of every Ukipper.
Because this seemingly innocuous sentence alludes to what ALL persons who are LGBT ultimately want; to destroy the heteronormative family, and enforce their biological dead end sexual practices upon the nation.
In other words, every single LGBT person wants the promotion and encouragement of non reproductive and biological dead end sexual practices, and the simultaneous denigration of the only natural and viable building block of society, the heteronormative family.
They want the above taught in schools to very young children as the ideal relationship and sexual practice. This is of course already happening.
They want to deny the self evident existence of 2 fixed genders only. In its place they wish to promote the false notion of gender fluidity. They wish to promote the lie that men can become pregnant and that women can produce sperm.
They want the above taught in schools to very young children as the correct way to view gender. This is of course already happening.
They want all who (rightly) denounce these lies and object to their dissemination to be prosecuted for hate crime.
They want to abandon all that is self evidently right and proper and force the entire nation to put their faith in the biological dead end of homosexuality and the outright lie of gender ambiguity.
ALL those who are LGBT want the above, because they are LGBT first and foremost before anything else.
It is all they EVER care about.
Even AMW only began speaking out against Islam when she realised it threatened her aims of advancing the goals of the biological dead end of homosexuality.
So look again at AMW manifesto, observe closely this seemingly innocuous sentence. Observe also the fact she makes NO reference at all to the Judeo-Christian heritage of the UK nor the aim to preserve it. And ask yourself again, do you want a self-confessed destroyer of the heteronormative culture to be the leader of ukip?
Hi Lauren.
I have seen no evidence that LGBT issues are a part of AMWs campaign for leadership or would like them to be part of any UKIP manifesto.
I guessed AMW considers our Christian heritage and LGBT issues are personal matters. I do not sense any hidden agenda with AMW.
The proposal for a written constitution is the part of AMWs manifesto that I am least enthusiastic about. But I am open minded on that. After all Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights and all the other parts of our constitution have not prevented parliament whittling away at our freedoms and agreeing to the European arrest warrant and seeking to undermine Habeus Corpus and Trial by Jury and give precedence to European Napoleonic (Roman) law over our Common Law etc etc. At the moment we have wide freedom to criticise our government but if we continue as we are restrictions on free speech may be introduced in this area as-well.
So I am open to looking at how to strengthen our rights as subjects. And I can understand why there is talk of bringing all our rights into a written constitution.
Lauren you state authoritatively that you know what ALL persons,who are LGBT ultimately want – not the ones I know, so your statement is false.
There is a strident LGBT lobby, encouraged by Liberal lefties, to do seek to pursue an agenda that I don’t condone – the majority of LGBT do not, I would contend.
Yes I agree, you are correct.
I cannot authoritatively state that the above is the agenda of every single LGBT persons.
Though I would however disagree with you when you suggest that the majority of LGBT don’t want this.
I believe that the majority of LGBT do ultimately want to replace heteronormative culture with the biological dead end of homosexuality and the psychologically harmful, socially worthless ideology of gender queer.
Though I suppose neither of us could prove or disprove our views on this.
That being said, is anybody aware of any LGBT who are speaking up about the destruction of heteronormative culture and the systematic denigration and undermining of the heteronormative family?
Can one draw any conclusions about their silence on this matter?
The truth is, why would they care?
Our Judeo-Christian heteronormative culture is the only reason we are here in one piece and not ritualistically feasting on each other’s brains.
Allow that to be completely destroyed and it doesn’t matter if and when Islam is driven out of this country, we will regress and degenerate so profoundly that our civilisation will come to a bloody and painful end anyway.
I will add that I do of course believe the number 1 priority at this time is to totally and irrevocably drive out cultural marxism and Islam from this country.
Thereafter, the number 2 priority must be to preserve and affirm our Judeo-Christian heteronormative culture, including official recognition of the heteronormative family as the only natural and viable building block for a stable society. This must happen if we want our civilisation as we know it to survive.
AMW is committed to priority #1.
As she is an LGBT atheist, we can only guess what she thinks about #2.
Additionally, a ‘traditional British Istitution and value’ would seem to logically include marriage and the family.
Lauren, Islam threatens us all, whether straight or gay.
The gay community does seem to be waking up to the threat of Islam.
I would prefer that UKIP has a leader who understands that Islam is a serious threat to human rights, western values and democracy itself, even if they are gay, than a deluded straight, who thinks “Islam” means “peace”.
Yes, I do agree that islam is the immediate existential threat to every single one of us.
As mentioned above I absolutely agree that our number 1 priority must be to drive out islam and marxism from every corner of this country.
And it is indeed good to know that many LGBT are waking up to the danger of islam – I hope many more do.
But after Islam and Marxism is driven out of this country, what next?
Do we continue to mutilate and disfigure our precious Judeo-Christian heteronormative culture, – the only reason we are here today in one piece?
Shall we continue to teach school children that heteronormative values and desires are offensive and inferior to the “anything goes” rainbow LGBT world?
Shall we continue to actively encourage (primary) school children to engage in biological dead end sexual practices and to pursue them as an ideal lifestyle?
Shall we continue to encourage the nation to abandon the self evidently right and proper heterosexual marriage, and force the nation to put their faith in lone parenthood, homosexuality and the outright lie of gender ambiguity?
AMW aims to drive out marxism and islam from the UK. That is a great thing.
But as an LGBT atheist, what can we say about her aims for our Judeo-Christian heteronormative culture?
I have rarely read such repetitive nonsense as the posts and replies from LaurenH. The phrase ‘Judeo-Christian heteronormative’ cropped up again and again like a stuck vinyl record.
If LaurenH had bothered to read any of Anne Marie Waters’ extensive writings on her blogs, she would discover that AMW has no interest whatsoever in challenging the ‘Judeo-Christian hetero-normative family or culture’. In fact, she herself has been verbally attacked by LGBT extremists and accused of being ‘cis’, a dreadful insult in their world. She has written articles rejecting their views in no uncertain terms.
In addition, Anne Marie was raised as a Roman Catholic in Ireland and, although she is now an atheist, respects Christianity as a religion that is far superior to islam in its philosophy of compassion and forgiveness. She told me that herself when I met her in April.
I believe the main reason that Anne Marie is appalled by islam is its attitude toward and treatment of WOMEN; and as a heterosexual woman I completely agree with her. It doesn’t matter to her whether the women and men who support her are gay or straight. What matters is that they see the threat of islam to British freedom and want to head it off before it is too late. Anne Marie’s movement is called ‘For Britain’, not ‘For LGBTs’.
Lastly, my younger son is gay and is much more loving and family-orientated than my straight elder son. I have met quite a few gay men and none of them expressed an interest in destroying the ‘heteronormative culture’. They were too busy enjoying being out and proud instead of hounded like criminals. There are older gay men who still remember those times. Perhaps you’re a throwback to those bad old days, Lauren.
Thanks for your response.
Yes, my comments are repetitive, but that doesnt make them less valid. You don’t like my choice of phrasing? fine with me.
As already stated, I do believe that islam is the number 1 threat to the country right now.
And after islam is eradicated from the country, there is another tenet or supporting pillar of cultutal marxism which is having a profoundly destabilising and degenerate impact on society.
You say that you know or believe that AMW has no plans to challenge the Judeo-Christian hetero-normative family or culture, that’s great. But “not challenging” the culture is not in any way the same as preserving and affirming it.
I hope that any others who may happen to read this understand the difference.
Anne-Marie is articulate and well informed as well as brave and persistent.
What happened at Manchester proves the truth of what she is trying to get heard. The UKIP NEC needs to recognise this.
I am amazed that Paul Nuttall would say that Islam is a religion of peace. The word for peace means ‘submission’ And thy will use the sword if necessary to get it. Hopefully PN has woken up to reality by now.
Don’t count on it, Deborah.
The detention of AMW is yet another unlawful infringement of our long held right to free speech and and amounts to an act of war against the native Brit.
We will look back on these events as defining moments in the coming civil war between government and the people unless we oust those responsible from public office.
Our doing that through the democratic process is becoming ever more difficult. The only other options are to leave or submit but leaving will only give our descendants a temporary haven from the globalists.
I agree Anne Marie.
Here’s a very nice photograph of Jeremy Corbyn to cheer you up.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/neave/15772488/
Unfortunately the police seem to be on the wrong side. They ignore incitement to murder when it is Muslims doing it.
I know a retired police inspector. He is of the opinion that Christianity and Islam are basically similar. I don’t know what training course he has been on but it is obviously inadequate.
Hugo, he’s an idiot. The training he’s had was provided by PC Brainwashing Inc., otherwise known as Common Purpose. It’s the reason we have a plethora of robotic thick as a brick police inspectors channeling the Thought Police in ‘1984’. It’s unlikely any of them have read ‘1984’, so they are unaware of their literary forebears.
Anne Marie Waters must feel a bit like Cassandra, the prophetess who foretold disaster for Troy, but no one heeded her. If they had, the Trojans wouldn’t have been daft enough to haul the wooden horse through their gates and seal their doom.
Well, you can see the similarities, but here are the differences: this country’s politicians – with no mandate, no referendum, no consultation, ignoring the will of the British people – dragged in the muslim Trojan horse long before Anne Marie was born. The enemy have grown in number, aggression, ambition and now have their greedy eyes on OUR beloved country as ripe for conquest, give or take a generation or two while they outnumber us by exploiting their women as handy breeding units.
Anne Marie is Cassandra only when she tries to address the leftard PC, thick as two short planks brigade, and that includes most of the politicians in the two Houses, the MSM, the luvvies, the Remainers and those who are so dim, they probably won’t notice until a jihadi covers their eyes in preparation for a decapitation.
The rest of us are listening to Anne Marie and we see the truth of what she says, we heed the warning and pass the message on. The backlash is growing, especially after Manchester where an islamaniac excelled himself in the beastliness, unreason, hate, bigotry, stupidity and death wish sickness of the warped ideology that bred him. An ideology that must be banned from Britain, just as the IRA was a banned organisation in its day. Why is that so bloody difficult to do?
One assumes that every MP can do a bit of maths and calculate how many millions of muslims will be in this country by 20XX. One assumes they can read the horrendous stuff the islamaniacs threaten to do and have done in countries all over the world. One assumes they can hear the blowhards boasting about flying the black flag of islam over No 10 and Buck House. It’s revealing that they never mention the black flag flying over Westminster Palace. Why? They wouldn’t need a democratic debating house, would they, probably turn it into a super-fancy mosque for a mass display of bums in the air.
“One assumes that every MP can do a bit of maths…”
Maybe a rash assumption. Either that or we must accept that they are a faction of the enemy within.
Anne Marie has posted today that she is exhausted. It’s no wonder! She has kept loyally and fearlessly going, picking up the baton and doing for UKIP what should have been done by our Leader, even after being stabbed in the back by him and his sidekicks.
I’m afraid Nuttall doesn’t impress me at all with his newly discovered ‘hard man’ stance – water boarding suspected terrorists if it would save British lives, hanging Lee Rigby’s murderers and so on. He put his head above the parapet ONLY AFTER the recent terrorist attack, when public sentiment was likely to be more safely on his side. Mr Nuttall, you are a coward and a fraud – end of.
After this election, if we are serious, we owe it to Anne Marie to clear out those in UKIP who deselected her. Remember, she hardly missed a beat, and continued saying and doing for UKIP what our clueless cabal refused to do. We need to identify those who will stand with her – Gerard Batten, so shamefully dissed by Nuttall in his ‘hard man’ Andrew Neil interview. Peter Whittle, another star. David Kurten, Margot Parker and those NEC members who voted for and supported her. The others are not fit for purpose. We really do need to do this, the only thing is, what is the best way? Those with greater knowledge of the workings of the Constitution, please tell us. There may be people who will get their knickers in a twist, but frankly, UKIP doesn’t need them. All the members and loyal leaflet deliverers do, I believe, want to support Anne Marie. She believes in UKIP – we need to show her UKIP members believe in her. Otherwise, I shall support her if she decides to do what many Twitter supporters want her to, which is, form a new Party.
There are far too many carpetbaggers at the top, not just the “politicians” amongst them but also the staffs.
The clearout needs to a massive one… unfortunately that may be too difficult a task, and where they are elected by the public, extremely painful.
My heart goes out to AMW – she is braver than the majority of men at the “top” of our party.
Brian, I hope we can sort it post GE – I’m not sure how. Maximus had an idea to go through branches, would that take ages? I have to say I am getting extremely disillusioned.
I think she should pack it in. No one can be expected to go through this as a single person. Where is the practical support? Saying well done is not enough. Tommy Robinson was in the same position but now at least has a sponsor.
Off topic, How to boil a frog is still getting lots of RT’s and likes today!
Postscript – I haven’t changed my overall opinion of Mr Nuttall, Nor has my anger at his shameful treatment of Anne Marie and Gerard Batten subsided, but credit where it is due, he did give a much better performance tonight in the teeth of massed opposition from both the stage and the audience. For which I am grateful.
Dee,
Yes, he did try his best against the odds, all that stupid Angus man could say was about Jo Cox and the murderer in Norway, two totally disconnected cases. Meanwhile, thousands Worldwide are being killed in the name of Islam including muslims, and all the atrocities involving multiple casualties here have been committed by muslims. The people that dispute that are mad.
What I also found interesting and actually made me laugh was when that stupid Angus man said that Scotland does not have enough immigration as more people are emigrating, well I am sure we could redress that situation, except that people probably don’t want to go there for some reason.
Point of Info merely : can you pl give chapter and verse of N’s dissing of G Patten ? Must have missed it but would like to know the detail.
( We have to think about post June 9, when I suspect PN will resign.)
Rhys,
He was asked in a newspaper interview (sorry cannot remember which one may have been the express) if he endorsed Gerrard’s comments and he said that he had got his ‘terminology’ wrong, in other words he would not endorse them. That was the first time, the second time I came across it was during the manifesto launch when he was asked again about Gerrard’s statement, and again he ducked it by telling the reporter he could ask Gerrard himself as he was sat behind him, to which there was some chuckles amongst the ranks. Paul Nuttall has stated he does not want to take a stance against Islam in general, which is mainly in line with the other parties it would seem, however, at least he is admitting it is Islamic terrorism which none of the other parties can bring themselves to say.
Here’s one newspaper article about getting the “terminology” wrong:
http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/11/ukip-back-pedal-after-mep-called-islam-a-death-cult-6629571/
And here’s his interview with Andrew Neil (from about 2.20). Also in this he agrees “absolutely” that islam is a religion of peace!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08rz0jx/the-andrew-neil-interviews-election-2017-paul-nuttall
Thomas, that Andrew Neil interview is so astonishing and cowardly that imo whatever happens post GE Nuttall simply cannot stay with any credibility as Leader, if we want UKIP to address the Islamization of Britain.
I expect you are already subscribed to The Glaznov Gang (if not, everyone, why not?!) and the recent interview with John Guandolo (Understanding the Threat – {another very useful information tool}) tells us exactly why we absolutely need to focus on Banning Sharia in Britain – but we have to be able to explain why, which is where Anne Marie comes in. And all of us, come to that.
Nuttall has got much support on Twitter anyway for saying he would ban Jihadis – which to my mind completely obvious statement gaining support shows how many people are desperate for the threat we face from Islam to be addressed.
So, never mind the hard man stuff, Nuttall has to go. Imagine what he could and should have said! Mayhem would have occurred, but votes would have soared.
And he went through an even more shameful performance in a TV interview with Julie Etchingham, allowing her to glare balefully and wonder why PN hadn’t sacked GB. He didn’t give a convincing answer.
Rhys, he won’t. The cabal at the top have absolutely no intention of loosing their grip, imo. They will give us DD to shut us up, and UKIP will quietly die.
It will be down to members, if we want to do anything.
Anne Marie, I have visited your Twitter postings, and yesterday was struck by the retweet of Trigg@Catsplaining. I am trying to get the message out to other non-Twitter users to view that unequivocal Message.
Can’t find it, Rose!
It’s at @AMDWaters, and the RT was from Trigga@Catsplaining. Hope this works, Dee
Rose, I am so grateful for that link. I think it explains, with clear finality, why we can never expect help from the Muslim community. If they follow the Koran, they cannot support our way of life, or they are, as they see it, eternally damned.
There may be some which pay lip service rather than lose their heads, but those who believe in the Koran will never believe in us.
Is it this one:
http://pic.twitter.com/h9Up3uhwUb
Yes, thanks everyone. I have read it, it makes perfect sense – it came directly from the Isis newsletter website apparently. We need to RT and those that can, print off and pass round so people are in no doubt as to what is going on. This, of course, is the reason,there are so many willing to sacrifice themselves for the cause, who live here amongst us. Be under no illusion.
The best we can hope for is to eventually drive out and keep vigilant, but it may be too late for the U.K.
The V4 are standing firm against Brussels and refusing refugees. They are a faint ray of hope for those that come after us – I believe by late this century they will find Russia is their only ally.
What is insane about the Visegrad Four is that although they see the madness of mass uncontrolled immigration for what it is, relating to their own countries, they do not follow through the logic and support the UK for having chosen Brexit. They are just as determined as Merkel, Macron and the rest to ‘punish’ the UK for its stance – tho’ objectively they should be demanding that the Commission agrees a sensible friendly divorce, and maybe saying ‘ and we’ll be next if you don’t stop your nonsense’.
Yes it is , Gary, but no matter what I try to do, I can’t enlarge it to read it.
Anyone any ideas?
Pan – try this to enlarge. Right click image, then click save as, save it onto your pc. Then open it on your PC. At the top of the image you should see Zoom, which should work to enlarge.
JF and Dee, thanks for suggestions.
Hi Panmelia, I’ve got it on my iPad so it was easy to enlarge, and not too sure about computers, but can you cut and paste and then enlarge the font? Or download?
AnnMarie Waters for UKIP party leader in two weeks time when there is going to be a vacancy or at least Deputy Leader if Peter Whittle takes over from the incumbent.
I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THE LIES OF THE POLITICAL CLASS
To describe them collectively as f*****g scum is not to clearly express the total rage I have after Manchester.
Teresa May is a hopeless tro***** and despite a 25 point lead 4 weeks ago is now about to see a hung parliament or at best a tiny tory majority. She was a very poor Home Sec and only the atrocious standards of most professional politicians allows her to think she is better than Thatcher was.
We need a miracle of say 320 troy MPs – tantalisingly short of a parliamentary majority- and six UKIP MPs ( pref not including Boston). Only then could we hope for Brexit meaning Brexit and an end to overseas aid/international nhs/death taxes/garden taxes/ECHR/and a police-legal system that allows merchants of death the chance to preach the murder of christians whilst Tommy Robinson and many others are jailed in effect for their criticism of islam.
Brian Crehan ‘died’ in jail 6 months ago for throwing a bacon sandwich at a mosque. No report, no investigation of his death made public, a fit man of 35 and a cover up by the Home Office.
I AM SICK AND TIRED OF OUR POLITICAL CLASS
CK, I agree. Can anyone tell me how long I need to be a member of UKIP to vote? Nothing apparent on their awful website.
Held against her will? Does that mean – arrested but then not charged? For what? The usual I expect. Get people talking and encourage them to say something which creates an offence under the guise of ‘just trying to clear things up’. It’s an adversarial system.
Very few details available, but AMW has confirmed that she was not arrested, but neither was she allowed to leave.
That is unlawful. One of the principal points of PACE was to make it illegal to detain people without arresting them. There was massive abuse before PACE with police snatch squads grabbing anyone and putting them in a cell as a fishing expedition. She should issue a complaint. If you are not under arrest you are free to go as I understand it. Robert Henderson’s site has lots useful on dealing with the police incidentally.
I suppose it was only a matter of time before the Thought Police reeled in Anne Marie. What else did we expect, other than that a person who warns of the islamic takeover of Britain would be arrested? They’re trying to intimidate her and this makes me smile. I have never met anyone less likely to be intimidated than Anne Marie Waters. She has will, determination, the honesty and integrity of someone who sacrificed a career rather than tell lies. She’s one tough lady who managed to get her message over at Speakers’ Corner despite being constantly heckled, bullied, shouted down and threatened by horrible muslim men. One of these told her she should be at home in the kitchen (yawn, E Pankhurst heard it 100 years ago, abdul).
Anne Marie, I, like hundreds of thousands of others, am with you. If you stood for leadership of UKIP I would vote for you. If you had a broader platform and became a household name, millions would agree with you and vote for you.
The fact that you’ve been arrested means you’ve rattled the Leftard establishment of this country. Keep on rattling!