Written by Frederica
Much has been spoken of late about the NHS in general and its shortfalls in particular. Many have expressed their anger at the way patients have been treated (or not, as the case has most often been). Just recently I have had more reason than usual to make contact with the ‘No Help System’ on behalf of my sick husband. I, like so many more, have become more and more frustrated at the barriers that have been erected around the GPs who were once our first port of call for care and advice for our ills.
Initially, we all accepted that there was a nasty virus going around. The only information we had on the nature of that virus was what we were ‘fed’ through the government sponsored media. That media poured its heart and soul into the ‘scaremongering’ psychological warfare waged against us all. Therefore we, ‘toed the line’ and buckled down to follow the ‘rules’.
We little realised that, many months later, those ‘rules’ would have removed our cherished freedom to live as we pleased within the law. In fact, those ‘rules’ made it almost impossible to live in any other way than what was dictated by government for fear of being fined or arrested by the COVID Stasi. It also meant that our GPs withdrew behind an almost impenetrable barrier and our hospitals would largely be closed to anything not remotely connected to COVID.
This situation has facilitated a huge rise in ‘jobsworth-ism’. The objective has been to keep all patients at bay with a (metaphorical) sharp stick. I have also met with ‘jobsworth-ism’ in the private sector as well. Since a lot of staff have gone into Private from the NHS or are ‘contracting’ as well as working in the NHS I suppose that is no surprise.
Over the last month I have found that getting through to the surgery is a nightmare. They operate a ‘telephone call or wait outside the surgery’ for the 08.30 start to play the lottery for the limited amount of ‘appointment’ times available for the day. Whatever your query you must go down this route. So with a patient list of many thousands, it is not surprising that the queue outside the door begins way before 08.30 (in all weathers!) and the phone lines are on constantly engaged mode.
If you are ‘lucky’ enough obtain a ring tone (after many redials) there is the breathtaking wait to see if after about twenty rings you are automatically cut off. If you breach the phone line barrier you are subjected to a tirade as to what to do if you have symptoms of COVID or other ‘conditions’. Mostly, it is to ‘hang up and dial 111 or 999’.
Following this is the message that telephone triaging is in place and you should not be offended when asked questions by the agents ‘specially-trained-by-the doctors’ (I call them dragons!). You are also told that they are actively following ‘Signposting’. This means you will not necessarily be able to speak to a ‘clinician’ but may be redirected to A & E or a pharmacist or ‘other’ for your query – a good way for patients to be shunted off elsewhere and thus take the strain off the surgery.
The whole preamble lasts about 4 minutes 30 seconds. Then comes a secondary beeping tone, indicating that you are in the queue. If the beeps speed up it is a sign that you are about to be cut off. Stress levels mount up hugely. It is not unusual to have to navigate this convoluted telephone system several times before actually making contact.
If you finally make it into the ‘dragons den’ there is a good chance that the ‘appointments’ for the day will already have been allocated and you are advised to ring again tomorrow. There is no appeal. I noticed when passing the surgery premises that the windows have a printed notice ‘we are now accepting new patients’. The bounty paid by government for taking new patients is too good to pass up even if it means that the patients cannot get the service to which they are, rightly, entitled.
This week I made it through the ‘minefield’ (198 redials!) and obtained a call-back from the GP. I advised him of my husband’s deteriorating condition and asked for advice. He suggested, knowing how long my husband has been ill and the fact that I am still awaiting an operation myself, that I should now consider putting him into ‘care’ as his condition was going beyond my ‘non-clinical’ capabilities.
I have been his carer for six years. I have looked after him through his degenerative condition making changes along the way to accommodate each step. When told of the doctor’s advice my husband was understandably upset! I made contact with a supplementary health team who have been dealing with his condition. They have made a perfectly sensible suggestion for keeping him in his home and I am taking this up.
I have called the ambulance service twice in the last few months.
On the first occasion, the paramedic was wonderful. He was kindness itself and skilled. He was an ‘escapee’ from A & E. He took great pains to check my husband over and deftly repaired the skin wound caused by the fall. He also arranged for the district nurse to come in to follow up.
This Thursday my husband fell again. Two wonderful ladies arrived from the ambulance service. They were caring, supportive and very communicative. They were with us for about 1 1/2 hours all told and did not leave until they were sure everything was well with him. They also told me that the service would be available again at any time even for getting him back upstairs in need.
Feeling that they were kindred spirits (from the general conversation) I made my views known about the current state of affairs in the Country. We were in agreement on every point. I consider them to be outstanding in the level of care they provided compared to the abysmal showing from GPs. They said that my views on the GP ‘service’ were not the first they had heard by any means. We agreed that the NHS was a worthy concept but fatally marred by abysmal management. Their frustrations emanated from being told how to do their jobs by people who have never been out on the front line to see how things actually worked.
I had to contact the ambulance service again later in the day when, after making a valiant effort, my husband was unable to get up the stairs safely. The crew that attended was kind and efficient. They reassured him and got him to his bed and safely settled. There was never at any time any suggestion that there was a need for hurry. The patient was definitely put first. They said I may call them to come and transport him back downstairs when the hospital bed arrives and is set up. In his current condition it will be safer for him to remain in his room for the time being.
The amount of ‘admin’ at the end of their visit was phenomenal. I joked that they were writing ‘War and Peace’ on the tablet device they were using. I was told that every single aspect of the case and how they had dealt with it had to be accounted for. Apparently this is because they now have to protect themselves. They could be open to censure, or even litigation, should a complaint ever be made and their actions could not be substantiated. To add to their problems, the ‘tablet’ was not suitable for the purpose. The reporting process was laborious in the extreme. The NHS has never commissioned an efficient IT system. The huge amounts of money thus wasted has been well documented.
The NHS is not fit for purpose. It is political and imperatorial. The ambulance service may be ‘outsourced’ but it has beaten the GP and hospital responses hollow!
I just read this comment by OKUK on a Lockdown Sceptics article:-
The NHS:
We booted thousands of old and desperately ill people out of our hospitals and sent them home to die or infect others.
We had so little to do during Covid we had time to choreograph elaborate tik tok dances but had no shame about that.
We endorsed eating of unhealthy takeaway food simply because it was being delivered free to our staff so setting a bad example to millions of people locked down at home.
We have cancelled hundreds of thousands of operations and medical procedures for no good reason.
We have turned our GP surgeries into unapproachable fortresses and made desperate supplicants of our patients.
We have pursued a policy of coercive whole populace mass vaccination with no understanding of the health effects.
We have conspired in terrifying the people we serve, which in the case of people with breathing difficulties has likely contributed to early death.
We now have a backlog of millions of people needing treatment but prefer to let them suffer rather than pursue sensible policies.
Says it all I think!
Very sorry so hear of your predicament Frederica and hope things work out better for you and your husband very soon. I sent my opt-out form off in the post this week to the address printed on the form. It is well known that most (if not all politicians) take advantage of private health care which comes with the “job”. They don’t have to suffer the inefficiencies of everyone unable to buy health care. After three and a half years on a waiting list (they can’t blame covid but do) I am going to see a Consultant privately. Apparently it could be arranged within two weeks when I wrote to my GP to ask. I paid into the system for 40+ years and my husband fifty years, thanks NHS. If it wasn’t for paying for private care about 15 years ago I wouldn’t be alive to tell the tale.
Lisa thanks for your good wishes. I share your ire that after paying in for so many years the system has failed to treat you in a timely fashion.
I too paid for a private consultation last year because the NHS waiting list was so long. I could not use my ‘alternative provider’ because it is a one-thing-at-time scheme and I am on their list for my op. I paid because treatment could not be given without the consultative diagnosis.
The NHS is a failed system.
I hope you get the best outcome possible from your private consultation. Best wishes. F
“The NHS is not fit for purpose. ”
Absolutely in my experience, especially their IT systems. When I eventually got treatment it was excellent. A Curates Egg of an organisation.
Frederica. My situation is very different to yours but some of what you say is exactly how I have found it.
Getting through to the G.P. ‘service’ is impossible. Fortunately in my case, I have learned to do without it now.
At the start of the Covid Scamdemic I did need them and got a new ‘treatment’ added to my repeat prescription entitlement but since then all I do is ring later in the day to request delivery of my repeat prescriptions.
I count myself lucky. Though some of it is also that I have used my own common sense in avoiding the risk of falling in slippery Winter conditions for example.
In the past I have found the ambulance service usually very good. The District Nurse used to be good but not now.
Basically you are quite right. The No Help Service has indeed been taken over by the Covid ScamDemic dictatorship.
You are living in the wrong part of the country.
Apart from masks and distancing our GP is functioning virtually normally.
You made this sort of comment once before. And I deduced you were a doctor and claimed my five pounds. Still waiting.
It may be easier / quicker for me to get an appointment with you or at a doctor at your practice.
So where are you living? Berlin? Lisbon? Or closer to home like Paris? Sure as hell not the GB where the rest of us are living.
Just another Plonker (and Peste). Yawns.
Making it through to the ‘dragons’ den’ as you so aptly describe it, is indeed a nightmare. My last experience was typical: “You are number…. 28 in the queue”. It took almost 40 minutes to finally speak to a ‘dragon’, and during that 40 minutes, trapped there in the queue, I was bombarded with the same continous, irritating recorded messages, one after the other, over and over again until I was fit to throw my phone against the wall. They complain about abuse – I’m not abusive myself but I can understand why it happens. Being forced to listen to that endlessly repeated recording, and finally, finally speaking to some self-important little madam who decides whether you need to speak to an actual doctor or not is enough to leave the most tranquil of persons fuming.
Then later, if you’re lucky enough to get a slot the same day, trying to describe your symptoms (in my case, uncomfortable, blotchy, swollen feet and legs) to a doctor on the end of the phone, when it’s fairly important that he SEES the legs (or whatever the complaint), leaves you, not for the first time, with huge regret that you didn’t take out private medical insurance when you were young so you didn’t have to rely on this monstrosity of a failing ‘service’, where the last person to count is the patient.
The doctor decided to refer me to a cardiac consultant. So, four weeks later I was able to consult with the Great Man…..ON THE TELEPHONE! So, he also was unable to take a proper look at my worsening problem. However, certain heart tests are to be done, sometime in the future but in the meantime, it was important for me to take the diuretic he would prescribe me. But, i discovered several days later, it would take around two weeks for him to write and sign the authorising letter!
Meanwhile, my sister, who lives in Cyprus but stays periodically in several different European countries with her husband’s business, tells me that the system of health care in Europe is carrying on as per normal. So, the citizens of Europe, not being denied care by an ailing, failing behemoth of an NHS, are so, so much better off than we are here, suffering as we are under the absent care of this almost-defunct Envy Of The World.
But the Sacred Cow will continue to hobble on, employing more and more foreign clinicians who, so often, can barely seem to speak English and whose qualifications we cannot know, and swallowing ever more eye-watering sums in bureauocracy and paper-pushing. God help us.
My last EYE appointment at the hospital, was on the phone. With no cameras at either end nor any pictures.
Think about it, an eye appointment! Tes, I have two . . .
Biscotte that is beyond mad!!!!! I suppose in this uncaring ‘tick-box’ world it records that ‘something was done’! The fact that the ‘something’ was utterly useless and inappropriate doesn’t come into the equation.
Ah Lorrinet ….you do understand! Clearly your part of the World is operating the same as ours. I fail to see how a clinician can form a proper diagnosis without actually seeing the patient. They simply do not care, is the answer! They have become untouchable. I subscribed years ago while I was working, to a scheme that provides medical care when the NHS queues are over-long. It is quite a good organisation but the NHS clinicians work there when they are not working in the NHS. Not sure how this is being achieved – I suppose they have self employed status and that probably pays better! Cynical Moi!!!! The problem is, they don’t see us as ‘customers’ merely supplicants! And……as for the little madams punching above their pay grade, I think they are specially selected for their ignorance and lack of human feeling!
I hope you get your situation sorted out soon. The NHS waiting lists are certainly grim. They always were slow but now it is catastrophic! Our politicians have used it an us shamefully. Greed and poor management will bring this Country to its knees eventually!
Number 28 in queue? Youre lucky they told you even that ! I once hung on for 40 minutes then gave up. No hint given of how long I’d be waiting.
You have until June 23 to opt out of having your confidential medical records being uploaded onto a NHS data base. It surely drives a coach and horses through the current GDPR and Data Protection Act which state that consent must be obtained and not assumed. I have phoned my surgery to opt out.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/1445629/NHS-Share-Medical-Records-Why-It-Thinks-You-Should
Thanks Ceri, I have put in my request for exclusion, which I understand is to passed by the receptionist to the office manager..
I actually visited the surgery to deposit my repeat prescription in the box provided outside the entrance.
I took the opportunity to walk in through the open door while a delivery driver was being attended to.
Actually no objection was raised, although they were surprised to know there was a closing date of June 23rd
Ceri I agree with you about the privacy laws being ignored. Nut of course it doesn’t apply to Big State when they choose not to recognise it for their own ends. I have printed off the forms and will take them in to our surgery just as soon as I get my current situation sorted out a bit and can come up for air!
A distressing time for you Frederica – hope you can source the help you clearly need soon.
The NHS is a political health service. It is just too big and political with reform being incredibly difficult to undertake with so many political pokers in the fire. The NHS needs a dose of competition from private operators. Don’t think any other nation on earth chooses to replicate the state health system that we have. Most countries have a mix of state and private I believe.
After WW2 the socialists lost no time in crying out ‘Look what big government has achieved in wartime – just think what big government can achieve in peacetime’! No wonder the USA redirected much of its rebuilding aid to Germany! Can’t blame them not wanting to send hard earned American tax payers monies for a nascent socialist state.
Jake I agree with your comment that no other Country would choose to replicate our system! The fact is, it isn’t a ‘Service’ at all. It is a money guzzling political football. The Management is making hay and demanding endless cash (which gets siphoned off away from the frontline anyway) because they know that no politician will ever court public censure by trying to force it to reform. None of our politicians has the brains or experience to direct reform operations anyway! The NHS is a self fulfilling prophecy of inefficiency and self-interest!
Thank you for your good wishes. The wheels are beginning to turn a bit now, due to the good offices of a satellite clinical team that I have had dealing with before and I kept the contact details of useful persons!
Frederica I second all Jakes comments, particularly the personal good wishes that you manage to get your husband ” sorted out”
The tale you tell, while being salutary is probably not unique, I was thinking while reading it, you have got to be smart to stay alive.
For those of us who are of an advanced age, some of whom go back to war time days, can only look askance at how complicated life is now.
It appears we don’t even have the degree of personal freedom to look after our interests, to go where we want, when we want and even with whom we want, without having to go through an endless red tape like rigmarole.
You are obviously a lady of initiative, up to a point accustomed to expect adverse demeanour from those who have a tick box schedule to complete, to show they are complying with line management instructions to the letter.
Perhaps those who were members of the services remember it as “bull”, but as Jake pointed out. It’s extension after the war into socialism wholesale, meant there became an ever growing class of in some cases “pen pushers” who worked for this or that “ministry” and became little Empire builders, wielding their own bit of power, often with the encouragement of their superiors who could then lead an idle life of pleasing themselves, knowing the “Buck” was safely in their under orders.
I blame computerisation, in that it allowed the examination of huge masses of useless (?) data and led to micro management techniques that threw real management considerations of initiative and inventiveness out with the bath water, and into the bargain foxed the mass of the population – blinded them with science.
I shall forgo uttering my thoughts about the perils of mass University qualifications for 50 per cent of the population giving them the opportunity to Lord it all over the uneducated population
Roger thank you for your good wishes. They are appreciated. However, I did not write the article in order to excite sympathy per se but to highlight the appalling indifference that the medical profession seems now to feel for patients.
I agree with your thoughts, particularly about ‘University degrees for all’ as promoted by Bliar! My feelings on education were made in an earlier piece. The standards now being set so low and to such narrow parameters that it is no wonder that a large part of the population has swallowed the COVID scam hook line and sinker!
Sorry that should of course be Frederica!
According to my memory sometime in the early 2000s our potteries ambulance service was reorganised by some armed forces officer after retirement . To general approval, at phenominal responsetimes and service. Someone blabbed and stirring occurred. The service was taken over by a different bunch, and deterereotiorated . Protests completely ignored. Happily they do now seem to be a responsible organisation but unhappilly hampered by poor response from Other sectors causing queues of full ambulances being treated by drivers etc presumably with union disapproval, and no one to fight their corner. Evidence is all around us of the failings of a nationalised industry and jobsworths and bureaucracy, all waiting to be appreciated.
How did that heppen. I was still hopelessly trying to work out how to spell detiorated and the sentence structure.
TG as usual your comments are close enough ‘for government work’. No problems here!
TGS – ” Evidence is all around us of the failings of a nationalised industry.” I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. If these services were to be provided in accordance with local service need (and NOT national political need) any shortcomings could be dealt with locally without a requirement to build a mountain out of a molehill – so to speak. But the pollies and the bureaucrats like to build mountains and empires, don’t they?
Michael D, the NHS is not just a nationalised industry, it’s a massive chunk of the old USSR parked in the middle of our national life. It was set up in the late 1940’s as a socialist health service by the Labour government, when most people on the Left were still besotted with the Soviet Union. It is inevitable that is has come to be run for the sake of the bureaucrats who manage it, just like the old USSR. You ain’t seen nothing yet, things will get far, far worse.
Ralph you have hit the nail! The old USSR amply describes what we are seeing around us, I saw a news flash headline this morning (from the Beeb – so I won’t be reading the whole!) saying that Johnson wants to see the whole world vaxxed by 2022! So, there we have it Johnson has gone full-blown globalist (and no doubt in line for a fat pay-off for his facilitation of the Great Reset!). He may have gone in to hospital with still a tinge of blue but he emerged as full blown red! Well he always said he could not live on the PMs pay! Perhaps he’s joined Ferguson, Witless and Unbalanced on Pearly Gates payroll!
Just got round to reading your comment Michael.
I liked your analysis of Nationalisation being central and local being local, of course big central organisation must be fed, I.e.multiple jobs on jobs for the boys, oh sorry faithful.
Local, well to start off with they are not always peopled by those in the same party of government and also are in a position to understand local difficulties, not sure they have the impetus to iron them out speedily, but even then they probably beat central
(Dis) organisation by a street.
On reflection doesn’t Nationalisation have a Totalitarian connotation ? Seems they must always operate by direction from one unbeatable source, usually backed by terrible legally enforced penalties, applied, whether they offend common law or not
Just like the old USSR !!!