Written by ‘TheRealArthurDent’
This article was first posted as a comment on this site and we republish it here with the author’s kind permission.
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Proponents of Boris’s deal say that, while it may not be perfect, it does provide us a route to take us “properly” out. The transition period won’t last forever, the stuff in the political declaration isn’t legally binding, we will negotiate hard during the next phase of negotiations, we will get a good trade deal at the end of it, is what we are told.
So to support this deal, essentially Boris is saying: “Trust me. Trust me to take the UK completely out of the EU during the next Parliament, and trust me to put British interests first and negotiate an outstanding trade deal with the EU, while protecting our ability to do trade deals with other nations”.
Do we trust Boris?
Let’s take a look at the recent evidence.
- Boris promised to take us out of the EU, deal or no deal, by October 31st. He didn’t. He blames the Benn Act, but he was still promising us an October 31st exit when the Benn Act was active, leading us to believe he had the determination, and the means to take us out.
- He also passed up several opportunities to prevent the Benn Bill from becoming law, and he also failed to test the legality of the Act in the courts.
- He was previously damning in his analysis of the May Withdrawal Agreement, and he was previously scathing about the possibility of a customs border in the Irish Sea. But now we have a new draft WA which is 95% based on Mrs May’s document but with a customs border in the Irish Sea.
And let’s have a look at the pre-Boris evidence of the Conservative Party’s trustworthiness:
– David Cameron promised that he would invoke Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty immediately in the event of a Leave vote. Instead, he resigned
– Mrs May spent 9 months dithering over whether to invoke Lisbon Article 50 before finally doing it in March 2017. She also spent a great deal of time dithering over commencing preparations for a No Deal departure, and allowed her Chancellor to block expenditure on this
– Mrs May appointed an excellent team of ministers to the Department for Exiting the European Union and made an excellent speech at Lancaster House which aligned with the promises of the Leave campaign. However in the initial engagement with the EU, she undermined the DExEU ministers and gave in to the EU’s wishes about the sequencing of the negotiations, critically damaging our negotiating position
– It became apparent at Chequers in summer 2018 that the DExEU was a Potemkin department, and that the Cabinet Office had been conducting secret negotiations directly with Berlin to come up with a rival Withdrawal Agreement to the one being worked on by the DExEU. Ministers were bounced into approving the No. 10 document with little chance to read it, on threat of dismissal and a long walk home if they did not.
– Mrs May on 108 occasions promised that we would leave the EU, deal or no deal, on March 31st 2019. When her Withdrawal Agreement three times failed to gain approval in the House of Commons, she did not take us out of the EU with no deal as she promised, but instead went running to Brussels to ask for an extension, initially to mid April and then to the end of October
– Despite Mrs May’s complete failure to deliver the Brexit she promised, she remained in power until she was forced out following a disastrous performance in the May local elections and in the hastily arranged European elections, in which the newly formed Brexit Party won and the Conservatives came 5th with a derisory 8.8% vote share.
That, my friends and colleagues, is the history.
So, do you trust Boris and the Conservative Party to use his deal as a springboard for a full fat, salty English Brexit with all of the trimmings? Do you trust a party which has spent 41 months, under 3 different Prime Ministers, failing to take us out of the EU? Do you trust a party which, from the very beginning, blundered its way through the WA negotiations, giving ground on practically every issue from the order in which negotiations ran, through the need for a level playing field, to the apparent need for us to pay £39 billion minimum in return for nothing – not even an itemised receipt?
Do you trust the party which said quite openly in the onset of our EU exit negotiations that we “did not seek to achieve a competitive advantage” ?
Well I don’t.
I’m voting for the Brexit Party.
(Farage) “talks a good talk but that is all” Someone is not paying attention. He’s created a new, fully operational UK political party from scratch implementing lessons learned from UKIP. The new party with him at the helm, then convinced the UK electorate in short order to vote for his party in numbers so large that they hold down the biggest number of EU Parliament seats of any UK party. That is a quite remarkable achievement which I’m proud to have played a very minor role in by voting for them. His party beat all others (and narrowly lost) the Peterborough by-election without having stood there before. Astonishing. A no deal is unachievable ? That sounds like the grunt of a Remainer. If we don’t change our vote, we change nothing.
Roger, two points:
– Farage didn’t start the Brexit Party, that was Catherine Blaiklock and I’m am SOOO fed up with that lying scumbag Farage taking the credit.
– All talk of huge seat numbers for TBP, made by every pundit quoting NATIONAL polls, is made nonsense by First Past The Post. The evil nature of FPTP which renders a GE into 650 totally separate contests, is what keeps the Tory Party in being, nothing will change that unless FPTP is changed to PR, after which all the people who for instance want to vote TBP can without fear, as every vote counts towards a new MP.
When oh when oh WHEN are the British Voters gonna WAKE UP!!
Elite traitor Farage fooled us all..only choice now is UKIP or return to Labour
Superb article. I could not agree more.
I realize I’ve said this many times before both on this site and in private exchanges ever since early September, but as my argument seems not to be reaching a wide audience and Boris seems to be getting away with the way he’s tried to pull wool over the general public’s eyes, please allow me to expand again on “He also passed up several opportunities to prevent the Benn Bill from becoming law”. The Benn Bill (as it then was) affected the Royal Prerogative (the exclusive prerogative of the Monarch, on the advice of the Prime Minister, to negotiate international treaties) and thus required Queen’s Consent to proceed to Third Reading. Queen’s Consent is given, or not given, on the advice of the Prime Minister. There is recent precedent for Queen’s Consent being refused (e.g. Blair). Boris could also have advised the Queen not to grant Royal Assent to the bill, which assent is also given, or not given, on the advice of the Prime Minister. So Boris was evidently happy for this bill to become law. If he wasn’t, he would have stopped it. And thus it wasn’t Parliament that forced Boris to ask for an extension, nor did Parliament prevent Boris leaving without a deal. It was Boris who forced himself and it was Boris who prevented himself.
Boris has now taken off his mask and confirmed that he’s not prepared to leave without a deal, even if he can secure an overwhelming majority in Parliament. Nor was he ever prepared to leave without a deal, despite all his former protestations to the contrary. This was obvious to me from his behaviour. And if it was obvious to me, rest assured it was obvious to the EU as well.
In a word, ‘No’
In two words, ‘Hell no’
That was easy.
JL
I have no doubt but that the results of the GE will be – if not nobbled – then carelessly dealt with.
However, if enough of us vote for the Brexit Party (which I believe many people want to, but are being made fearful by the propaganda put about by the Cons and MSM) then they’ll find it quite difficult to hid the truth!
They expect us to Trust the Tories…. Be honest, can anyone trust a Politician ?? All one has to do is “look at the history”. The UK was blindsided by Edward Heath (Tory Prime Minister) and press-ganged into the EEC under the cloak of darkness and deceit !! That SAME LIE has perpetuated to this day, and by all politicians from all parties, who should hang their heads in shame, as they’re equally guilty of treasonable acts against this nation.
Frankly I never thought there would come a day when I had anything in common or agree with Tony Benn, BUT both he and Enoch Powell were absolutely bang-on-the-nail with their predictions for the future path of the European project, and so uncannily accurate too. !!
On the 23 June 2016 came the day of reckoning, when finally the 17.4 million worldly-wise, educated and democratic thinking, forward-looking normal people of this country finally got their say, voicing their anger at the quisling political establishment, deceitful main-stream media and self-deluded elitist classes. Since that fateful day in history, they have revealed their true colours and intentions, further exposing just how dishonest, manipulative and deceitful they can be and just how low they can sink to achieve their aims.
I proudly voted LEAVE, in order to safeguard both my children and grand-children’s future prospects, not because they deserve better, but because they deserve the same opportunities and choices I had. As too do I resent being held accountable for supposedly ruining the next generations futures. For it is they (Remainiacs) who are stifling the future for them, with their blinkered rose-tinted view of the EU project.
So who will I vote for ??… certainly not BORIS and the Tories, for that is only to continue on with THE LIE !!, frankly there’s only realistic choice left, and that’s The BREXIT Party. I sincerely hope others feel and do exactly the same, that’s the only way we’ll finally be able to drain the swamp.
We have all been let down
Farage is latest in long line of elite traitors. Once a Tory always a Tory
.back to UKiP or Labour
.Maybe now Corbyn is lying to get into power and then change to leave after all he was maybe is euroseptic!?
When all probable causes have been dismissed, that which remains. however improbable, must be the answer.
Boris is a traitor. He has added his name to quite a list of them from Heath to May and including most PMs in between.
Very well Arthur Dent, but you missed the biggest item of the Tory failure. Well, not failure rather deceit from the 1970s. – Heath’s lies about The Common Market, with the papers all now in the public view. – All Conservative slight-of-hand !
TBP is tempting, so yes I agree with your logical conclusion ! – However, perhaps you can throw light upon the news that Nigel Farage who started TBP will not even stand for election in his own Party ? – I can smell something decidedly unpleasant about that guy ! – Now I’m not saying that there is any connection, but UKIP’s NEC being responsible for the dismissal of two of its leaders at this time, adds to the bad smell !
Now lets cut to reality. – It is obvious to me that we will not get Total Brexit that I, and 17.4 million voted for. – It is also a fact that Boris Johnson has become our PM. – What we have with the EU is not satisfactory, but what is the point of demanding satisfaction from our PM, at the same time as taking support away from him ?
So on one hand we have Nigel who is no stranger to electoral defeat, and who talks a good talk but that is all. – Or we have Boris who has made it to No.10 and is our current PM, and needing our votes to get a decent majority in the Commons for positive Government. – Of course, if your intent upon weakening the PM’s hand, then you can look forward to a weak Government, probably even headed by Jeremy Corbyn !
Well, if you’re not bothered about the country being under the control of the European Union indefinitely then vote for the CON party.
‘we have Nigel who is no stranger to electoral defeat’; Boris Johnson has also lost in a Parliamentary election, so he is no stranger to electoral defeat either!
Nigel Farage has a job as an MEP, as well as organising TBP, so how you can claim he ‘talks a good talk but that is all’! That is quite a lot in my book.
What has UKIP to do with it?
What is the point of supporting someone who is only going to achieve Brexit in name only?
^Don’t let your feelings about Farage cloud your judgement of what the Brexit Party stands for: a clean break, real Brexit, yes but even more important beyond Brexit a total reset of our shattered politics and voting system and more direct democracy with a chance for the public to be listened to through referendums.
Vote for a party that won’t sell out on your freedom and independence. All the other patties will and lie to you in the process.
Re:Nigel Farage. Stop for a moment and THINK. This moment will never come again. This opportunity to leave the EU. The plan is that Nigel Farage will TRAVEL THE COUNTRY in his unique and avid support of LEAVE. I predict that he will get some enormous turn-outs – and each of these turnouts might well turn into VOTES. And, votes are what matter.
An angel? Of course not – but ask Joe Public if Farage has EVER changed his essential aim – and to a man – and woman – they will tell you that he has always stuck to his guns in terms of Brexit and Leave – unfalteringly, unabashed and unshakeable.
Show me ONE other politician whose record can compare with his. They have fallen by the wayside, one after the other – just look at them, grovelling at the feet of Boris. But the real question is ARE THEY FEET OF CLAY? I firmly believe Boris is trying to play games with the British public. The truth is simply that what is being offered by the Tories IS NOT BREXIT. It is a million miles away. If you believe in Brexit, which I always have done, our country, our uniqueness and our qualities – then the only Party is The Brexit Party.
If you can spare the time, and want to bolster your commitment and pride in our country then read a little Sir Walter Scott……..
You can find it easily on YouTube –
“Breathes there a man with soul so dead, who never to himself has said ………………”.
And the last line might well apply to Boris.
Thank you Mike Maunder. I agree with you. Basically we know Boris is far from perfect like his WA but realistically it is the best chance we have. The better majority he gets the better our chance of getting Brexit.
Sorry Pauline but your faith is not only misplaced, but naïve. If Boris wins, we will be in a perpetual state of limbo; the Parliamentary sewer of Remainers will make sure of that. Why do you think people like Treason May and all the other traitorous rats in Westminster are supporting this deal? I am not a fan of Farage, but I will be voting for the Brexit Party as this is the only Party which remotely represents what I voted for.
Mike, couple of corrections: Farage didn’t start TBP, that was a lady called Catherine Blaiklock. Secondly, the only reason he isn’t putting forward as PPC is because he knows damn well he cannot win. All the other candidates/parties will attack him like a feral shoal of piranha fish, any hustings he was at would crowd him out in scenes only rivalled when Anne Marie Waters runs for election.
Nope. LibLabCon are all confidence tricksters with their spin, lies and propaganda. They’ve got away with it in the past, so why should they change?
Was there ever such a deceitful, lying, selfish, self-centred animal on the face of the earth? Sounds as if I had been listening at the ‘wailing wall’ of his girlfriends flat, doesn’t it? No, I am referring to his second-rate (No, third-rate!) comic performances at the Despatch Box. Jacob Rees Mogg has done himself no favours in supporting this charade – and as for the other ‘actors’ in that now infamous, pathetic, spineless team – days of infamy comes to mind!
Would you buy a secondhand car from any of them…..?
No is the short answer and Brexit is not the only delivery they failed:
Immigration reduced to tens of thousands (since 2010 GE) – instead we have an average net immigration around 250,000 a year
Law and order – recorded crime increases (burglary, rapes, violence) while detection is falling. Even if we catch the criminals there is not enough space in prisons to lock them up.
Economy – deficit not eradicated, debt increased from £1,194.3 B in 2010 to £1837.5 B in 2018
Public services – failing down
Unemployment 3.9%, but 21% people in economic inactivity – age 16-64.
List is long.
Only bit I cannot understand is why ordinary people ever would choose to vote for them.
Snow Elephant…..SPOT ON! You certainly know your politics and in a few short sentences have described in a nutshell ALL (most!) of the promises that the Tories made and have broken. Only a MUG would give them their vote. Want to leave? Vote for The Brexit Party.
Eton MUST be beaten!
No. Next question.
JF
Most people will remember one or two instances, but seen together, Good Lord is there a pattern there?
Who knew?
Nevertheless useful summary. Thank you.
People seem not to remember the ‘u turns’ performed by Cameron, I lost count when he reached 16!
Bollocks to Boris!
He wouldn’t know how to use them.