On Thursday this week Local Elections will be held in much of our country – do you have any hesitation about voting? If so, you are not alone because there have been a number of elections over the past few years, with more to come, and yet it is getting to the stage of the people thinking: what’s the point, what changes when we do vote?
Nearly three years ago, in June 2016, the British people took part in the greatest vote in our history, a Referendum of the people to decide whether the UK should Remain part of the European Union or should leave to become an independent country once more. The British people definitively voted to Leave, 52% against 48%, but have we left? Not so far, and it still looks as though the decision to do so is on a knife edge which is very dangerous for the way we shall be governed in the future. If we have a clean break from the European Union then yes, democracy will survive, for the moment at least. But if the Government fudges the break, gives the people Brexit In Name Only or decides to hold another Referendum, or indeed, refuses to implement Brexit in any way at all, then democracy is finished.
In 2017, the Government decided upon another General Election because Theresa May, the Prime Minister, insisted that a Strong and Stable Government was needed so that she could continue to negotiate the terms of a Brexit deal with Brussels from a position of strength. Sixty-eight percent of the British people went out and voted for the MPs and political parties they preferred, but our Prime Minister now has a Government which is far from Strong and Stable and a Parliament where many members of all Parties are still trying ensure that the UK remains within the European Union. But this is democracy.
If Brexit does not happen, if Britain does not finally and completely leave the European Union, was there any point in voting in the Referendum? Let’s be blunt: without so many British people voting for the UK Independence Party and thereby threatening the Conservatives (and others) with loss of their seats in Parliament, there would never have been a Referendum, no chance for the British people to ever put their views forward.
And now, having dithered for almost three years, the Prime Minister finds herself running up against the next European Election which was always set to be held on May 23rd, 2019. What is the Government going to do? At the moment Britain is due to leave the EU on 31st October, or sooner if a deal is agreed. So, if our country hasn’t officially Left the EU, does that mean it still Remains within it and will have to take part in this election? Are the British people really being asked to vote again to send delegates to a Parliament in which they no longer wish to serve?
Once again, the Government is dithering. While some political Parties have already started to campaign for the EU election, on the 23rd May the Conservatives first sent out a mass email saying that Britain would be taking part — before changing their minds on 28th April to insist that the nation could still leave the EU without going to the polls. So, again, will it be worth voting?
Many people are saying that on a matter of principle no Brexiteers should stand as candidates and no votes should be cast, but this would be a great mistake for it could then be considered as an excuse not to hold elections at all: no candidates, no votes, why bother? And this applies to all elections, including the Local Elections to be held this Thursday.
According to the Electoral Research Society’s report of 25th April, large parts of England are effectively democratic deserts, since 300 council seats have already been guaranteed for one party or individual before a single ballot has been cast. Also, about 150 councillors will win their seats without a single vote being cast because candidates are running totally uncontested. This means that over 270,000 potential voters will be denied the chance of voting for whom they wish to represent them in their area. So, if you want to maintain democracy in this country, new candidates must put themselves forward for positions of local councillors and, of course, for Members of Parliament. Join the party of your choice (UKIP, preferably, of course!) or even stand as an Independent with your own plans for your country or for your town or county.
And then there is the turnout to elections; the number of British adults who send a postal vote or make the effort to go out to their polling station to cast their vote for the person or Party they feel will best serve their interests in Local or General Elections. This is essential. If people feel there is no point in voting, that nothing changes, that the whole thing is a complete waste of time, what happens if only a half, third, quarter, a tenth of the eligible population vote? How low does the turnout have to be before the result is disallowed? And if this happens again and again in elections, how soon will it be before the Government, with relief, decides that there is no point in holding elections, either Local or General? How soon before democracy in Britain is finished?
So, for the Local Elections on 3rd May, for the European Election (unless, hopefully, the country does leave the EU before then) on 23rd May, and for the next General Election whenever that is, if we are still a democratic country and are still allowed one — PLEASE GO OUT AND VOTE!
Unfortunately for me I do not have the pleasure of being able to vote in local elections this year, thanks to a nice bit of gerrymandering by the Labour party last year which means Birmingham city council now only has to hold full elections once every four years, so all the councillors who got elected last year enjoy four years in office, rather than the cycle of ‘rotation’ that other city, unitary and district councils have.
I can’t help but feel that Labour will be pushing to roll-out this ‘model’ to other local authorities too. They do it in the name of ‘cost-saving’, but in truth it is a method that allows them to hold power for longer than they might ordinarily expect to. We’re basically stuck with this waste of space Labour controlled council until 2022. Which is when the Commonwealth Games are due to be held, which our Conservative Mayor has been gleefully ‘finding’ money to throw at in the name of useless vanity projects, which the Labour city council have been happy to support.
Collusion much?
So, my only trip to my new polling station this year (since I moved late last year) is going to be at the end of May for the European Elections, and I will only be voting as an act of protest. I shouldn’t have to be voting for an MEP to represent me at the EuroParl, after all I voted to Leave in 2016!
But I am only voting UKIP, in the hope that Ernie Warrender, Paul WIlliams et al will be happy to give up their lucrative MEP salaries if we ever actually get to leave, and are not simply doing this to financially enrich themselves.
So you get to the polling booth on 23 May and find that UKIP and the Brexit Party are competing against each other. As a eurosceptic how do you vote? Do you vote UKIP to keep the Brexit Party out because you dislike Farage or do you vote for the Brexit Party because you have a hang up about Batten and Tommy Robison, OR do you vote for whichever eurosceptic party has the better chance of giving the remainiacs a bloody nose? Just asking.
It all depends on whether or not you believe, as I do, that the Brexit Party was just set up by the Tories to sabotage UKIP, and that they are born-again Tories who make all the right brexit noises and talk the talk, but would not change their spots and walk the walk. .
I could not vote TBP. TBP is not a party, its Nigel’s cronies and wannabes and a few of his ‘special friends’ after making a quick buck. Remember Alexandra Phillips? The one he tried to parachute into Wales ?? Well she’s back as No 2 after Fargage on the SE region list.
That sucks. (Excuse the pun) .
UKIP, for all its faults and Gerard’s stubbornness, has at least a bit of democracy. TBP has none.
I plan to vote for the party whose manifesto closest matches my own views (and that actually has a manifesto.) Which would be Ukip. Naive of me to still be believing in parties enacting their manifestos perhaps but I trust GB more than the rest of the leaders. The Cons and their Plan B failsafe (TBP) will always need Ukip to keep them honest so it’s vital that they garner enough votes to stay alive.
Over the last few weeks politics has been fairly hot. The Prime Minister’s Withdrawal Agreement has been brought to the House three times and it looks like it’s going to be presented again. Now we have the unedifying spectacle of cross-party negotiations between the government and the opposition to see if a way forward can be found. That rather depends on who is prepared to compromise their red lines first.
This week we have the local elections on Thursday and the count on Friday, both of which will give journalists something to write about, and at the end of the month we have the Euro elections. You can bet that in the interim the papers will be full of quotable quotes from every candidate and more.
But then what? If the WA has not been squeezed through the HoC, the new MEPs will take up their posts in June and life will go back to normality. There will then be four months until the end of October when the latest of the PM’s extension runs out. Is the PM going to put her WA again and again to the HoC until she wears down MPs so much that they vote for it? I believe there’s a hardening of attitudes to the agreement; besides which, there’s that little matter of the same Bill not being allowed to be presented more than once. Surely the Speaker, biased as he is, can’t allow the Bill to come back time and again.
When she realises she’s been thrashed so soundly at both the Locals and the Euros, will the PM decide that her time is up? There’s no way she’ll call a GE, IMO, having seen the results of the two polls in May, so what options are open to her?
I have seen a newspaper report that she might ditch the Irish backstop issue, put the WA to the House again and if it’s passed, take it back to Barnier and challenge him to turn it down, threatening a WTO exit if he does. But has she got the cojones to do that? And what will the EU do then?
I can only surmise that the four months between the Euros and the end of October will not be politically quiet. They could be quite explosive, but where will the bang be?
If Mrs May’s misnamed Withdrawal Agreement is passed by Parliament there is no chance that Michel Barnier will turn it down, on the contrary he will be delighted. The Backstop is trivial, other parts of her misnamed Withdrawal Agreement will lock Britain bound & gagged in the lowest dungeon of the EU and throw away the key. Mrs May’s falsely named Withdrawal Bill is what Franco-German federasts have dreamt of since World War Two.
Every vote not cast is a vote for the status quo. I think it is a civic duty to vote – in fact, I think we should go the Australian route and be fined if we don’t. It’s not much – about AU$30, I think. And I’d vote for Mr Pieman above any of the usual dross.
John redwood made a very interesting observation in his Newsletter today – that poor turnouts and fractured political parties – a comment on the Spanish General Election – leads to endless coalition talks and no political leadership in a country and this is exactly what the EUro Commission and its supporters want so as to not have any coherent national challenges to its authority.
There is an argument to say if voting ever made a difference, it wouldn’t be allowed, but the referendum was different a binary choice that the government said would implement what we Plebs decided. We must hold them to account for that and give LIBLAbCON the drubbing they deserve at the ballot box.
You have to vote if you believe in independence, for the Remainers will sure use the lower turnout of brexiteers voting as a sign that we’ve changed our minds. They’ll say, “look, there are more votes for Remain parties or candidates and look at the small number of votes for Brexit and UKIP, we must surely remain in now….We need a People’s Vote, in fact why bother with a People’s vote, we’ll just revoke Article 50 altogether”
By not voting you are also saying you’ve given in to Remain and don’t care what happens either way.
One of the best tricks of the system is to make people so disconnected that they don’t vote. Which means they don’t even take any opportunities to oppose the system. Of course if a big opposition vote looks likely then cancel the vote. That is the plan with the EU poll.
I plan voting Piers Wauchope.
ditto – would love it if Piers got elected and not Nigel. Anyway, just look at the SE number 2 in TBP! Nigel’s bit of fluff he tried to foist on Wales. We all know why he hated the NEC, got his ultimatum from the ex wife and they wouldn’t let him deliver
Exactly. Shameless stuff from TBP and Farage. I’m surprised the Guardian hasn’t pounced on that story yet.
Totally agree with the message given in this article.
People must vote, even if they have great reservations about how our supposed democracy operates.
The obvious follow on from making a decision to vote is-who to vote for?
In my opinion we have arguably the worst PM in living memory and that really is saying something!
She leads the most ineffective, uninspiring Government that I Can ever remember.
And what of the major party of opposition?
A Marxist, untrustworthy grouping the most dubious of intentions for this Country.
A Labour Party that will support any group that share their aims of destroying our society, culture and heritage.
I will declare an interest, I am a UKIP member and I would urge everyone reading this to vote for the only party which is consistent in its Brexit demands.
However, I realise that for some, voting UKIP might not be an option, in fact UKIP might not even have a candidate to vote for in the local elections.
In that case please use your vote and vote for any other Brexit supporting candidate. Brexit Party, independent whoever!
Your voice can still be heard and must be heard by those who wish to betray us and destroy democracy.
Where I live the only candidates are Lib/Lab/Con and Green. NONE have campaigned (or at least I haven’t seen a thing, and I’m very politically aware) .
I couldn’t stand as I have only lived here a few months, not a year.
The only independent candidate in my ward is the local pub loon. He’s campaigning for free pies, I think.
There is one issue which bugs everyone. Rubbish collection and litter. The street cleaners – ALL of them, were fired last year by the Tory council. Rats and rubbish are everywhere. Only the Green Party has published anything in the local rag regarding this. However as we know the Greens are pro-Remain.
So who should I vote for? It’s a serious question. I could spoil my ballot ( always amusing for observers at the count, which I have been on many occasions as an agent, comparing the most obscene drawings and insults on the ballot papers ) but does that get us anywhere?
Should I abstain, ( surely the turnout will be absurdly low? ) to make a point?
Or should I vote Green in the vain hope that it might help me get the streets cleaner?
Just vote for every candidate it spoils the paper ,
Under those circumstances MrBav, free pies seems to be a manifesto winner to me.
I agree that in more straightforward times, those who would ensure that your bins get emptied, keep local buses running and support your local police, would be the party/representative that people would probably be voting for.
But imagine the stinging message that our political establishment would receive if the local oddities who promise us free pies, where to oust our tired, corrupt political parties from power.
Apart from that I honestly don’t think things could get any worse anyway.
Mr Pieman gets my vote.
I hope they’re nice and crusty. Nothing worse than a soggy pie.
Cleaner streets? Green? Been to Brighton & Hove? Anyway well worth voting for the loon just to deny the LibLabCon artists a seat and send the traitor parties a message
In extremis, go for the free pies.
We haven’t even got him, where I live. I should have stood as an Independent myself on a manifesto of “We want our pensions back” (WASPI). Nobody cares that Councillors have no power in national issues.
So who should I vote for? The Pub Loon of course!!! And I do hope enough other people will be voting for him as well — imagine the shock to the Political Establishment!
Sonya
OK, taking all the advice from readers , I’m going to find the Pub Loon tonight or tomorrow and help him canvass. FFS, he’ll only need about 10 votes to win.
The Greens won’t do anything about Street Cleaning – they will just talk about ‘effective recycling’ and want a load of money spent on ‘environmentalism and awareness and diversity in cleaning streets without actually doing what is practically required.
YES, definitely vote for the Pie Man! Just thought: Contact the Pie Man, ask him to contact his friends and you contact yours, get everyone to run off some copies on their printers of something like:
GIVE THE POLITICAL PARTIES A PASTING —
VOTE FOR THE PIE MAN!
And you will still have about 30 hours to push them through the letter boxes in his Ward and get him into the Council.
JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT!
Sonya