Written by Helena Windsor
On July 9th, political commentator, Anthony Webber, kindly shared a letter he sent to the Secretary of State for Health, Sajid Javid and Transport Secretary, Grant Schapps, with Independence Daily readers. Mr Webber has been prominent in the fight against lockdown, unfortunately, presenting a series of inaccurate and misleading statements to ministers as ‘facts’ will do the anti- lockdown cause a serious disservice. Far from persuading them to hear the case, it is ammunition for those who want to continue controlling us.
Dear Readers, I’ll address some of the claims that were made.
1 and 15. The virus cannot be transmitted without symptoms. Many diseases are successful precisely because you are contagious before you have symptoms; all mums and school nurses used to know this. OK, that’s pre-symptomatic, where you most certainly can pass Covid on; I don’t know if it has been truly established if you can be contagious and have no symptoms at all but the Mirror recently reported that genes may play a part.
2. There is no need to be scared of the virus, it is no more dangerous than a bad winter FLU. It is definitely more dangerous than flu on balance; for some groups it is something to be justifiably scared of.
3. Those less than 70 years old, who are fit and healthy are more likely to die of FLU than Covid, this is a scientifically proven fact. Most people, of all ages, who die of regular winter flu die of secondary infections. This is why I have some friends who have taken the pneumococcus jab but declined the annual flu jab when offered. More severe flu strains do kill younger people directly and rapidly via ‘cytokine storms’ as happens with Covid.
4. The public were all falsely told that all were susceptible to Covid…I thought, back in early 2020, that, as coronaviruses were a fairly conserved group genetically, there was likely to be cross immunity and this probably explained, at least in part, why some people had it mildly. It took until Porton were evaluating antibody testing kits and found specificity issues to show it. There is a very good, published study from Singapore on this. However it was not a lie to warn people they were all susceptible – with a new pathogen we don’t know initially. More importantly, when we have a cold we don’t go off to get a microarray test to see which virus we’ve caught, so in the cross immunity stakes it’s a case of Russian roulette
5. Covid and Spanish flu are not comparable (True.) Spanish flu hit when many were exhausted and malnourished after WW1. How many would have died if modern medical facilities were available? Conversely, without ventilators, ECMO, oxygen treatment, blood thinners – many more who caught Covid would have died from it in the acute phase, or from complications like blood clots.
7 and 8. Covid – the main epidemic, was over in the U.K. in April 2020. This is probably one of the worst of the erroneous claims made in the letter. The main epidemic was NOT over in April 2020. The so-called Kent, or Alpha variant may be the major culprit for the numbers last winter, but Covid rumbled quietly at a low level over the summer and, predictably, kicked off again with the cross country movement to university and onset of winter. Most of the people I know, who have had it, caught it between October 2020 and as recently as June (thankfully the June case was mild due to being vaccinated) They were not ‘cases’ caused by false-positive tests, they were ill, some spent time in hospital.
9. In 2020, only 9,400 people died of Covid in the U.K. who did not have underlying health issues. Am I the only one who finds it offensive that the deaths of those with underlying health issues are trivialised? Especially when, but for the mendacity of the Chinese Communist Party – or perhaps worse, they need not have taken ill in the first place and, in some cases, the ‘underlying health issue’ may simply have been that they were obese.
11. It is a fact that those who have antibodies and who have not had the vaccines are not at risk themselves or to anyone else. It is only fair to note that this is a very reasonable comment – and it’s not just antibodies but cellular immunity (which peer-reviewed research is showing plays an important role) but that is much more onerous to test for.
12. There is no proof that the vaccines are effective. The 3 vaccines currently approved by the MHRA in the UK have been properly tested in phase 3 clinical trials and real time data on efficacy is coming in all the time from across the world where they have been used.
14. The public have not been told that there are anti-viral drugs that can cure Covid, such as Ivermectin and Budesonide. Ivermectin has shown activity against SARS CoV2 in lab tests – this does not always translate into clinical success, an example is the much-touted Remdesevir. I would like to see some proper trials I can trust. Budesonide is not an anti -viral, it’s an asthma treatment; it is that mode of action that helps with covid infection. Mr Webber fails to mention dexamethasone, a successful and cheap treatment that arose from the first wave and undoubtedly saved many who ended up in hospital from death or a more severe illness.
To take some more claims: visitors jolly well can be a threat, take the Delta variant! Covid most certainly does circulate in warmer weather – look at the hot states in the US last summer and nor was it unusually cold weather in India when Delta took off. For the record, Covid tests, lateral flow or PCR, are highly specific, they WILL NOT pick up other cold viruses or flu.
Finally, Mr Webber quotes some of the myths about the PCR test which are circulating amongst anti lockdown folk. In another article, I will try to explain, simply, for the non-scientist, how PCR works. We run PCR tests in my laboratory, not Covid but the principles are the same and yes, our standard run is 45 heating cycles, there is nothing wrong with that at all, as I hope to show you.
Oh dear. I did not read the Anthony Webber article, but I wondered more and more where this one was going right from the first critical paragraph, as the ‘corrections’ differed widely from what I have learned from multiple sources and the eminent scientists and medics who have put their heads above the parapet.
And the language, which these people cannot resist (‘myths’ rather than incorrect facts, ‘circulating amongst anti-lockdown folk’ – rather than ‘folk’ with sincerely held alternative scientific opinions) finally broke through in the last para and gave her away.
And to argue one specific point. The 45 cycles is now acknowledged to be causative of high percentage false positives. Hence the casedemic not viral pandemic. How useful for lockdown adherents.
Even CDC, in July 2020, said,
“Detection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019 nCOV [novel coronavirus] is the causative agent for clinical symptoms.”
“The performance of this test has not been established for monitoring treatment of
2019 nCOV infection.”
“This test cannot rule out diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.”
Specialist experts like Mike Yeadon, and others, have said that anything above mid-20s cycles is unreliable, and that you can set the parameters to find what you want to find, and even harmless dead fragments of virus or other pathogens can give a positive. A mango tested positive, and the African head of state who showed that is now dead.
But all talk around the PCR ‘test’ is nugatory as the inventor of the test said it was not a diagnostic tool. He’s dead too.
And that too is irrelevant after the revelation of Peter Daszak’s words from 2016, that are worth repeating:
“We need to increase public understanding of the need for medical countermeasures such as a pan coronavirus vaccine. A key driver is the media and the economics will follow the hype. We need to use that hype to our advantage to get to the real issue. Investors will respond if they see profit at the end of the process.”
Leaving aside the Schwaab and Gates agendas, at least the vax-for-profit scam is no longer a conspiracy theory. Another domino falls.
BTW, Ivermectin has been proven to be magically effective, practically in the US, Mexico, some Indian states, and in about 60 trials around the world. For a lab person Helena is remarkably blinkered in her studies.
Well you’ll have to wait a few days for the PCR special. Yes, a PCR test only detects nucleic acid, it does not tell you if that nucleic acid came from a viable ‘bug’. Mostly, earlier in the pandemic that was not important unless people needed to be tested when they were getting over their infection. Now, post vaccination, I do wonder if those who have been vaccinated can test positive in a sensitive test because they have nucleic acid from virus their immune system has already destroyed (much like those end of infection positives)
45 cycles needs putting in context! Nothing wrong with a RUN of 45 cycles. Most good positives will indeed be detectable after around 20 cycles. The Government’s own data is showing that Delta is giving very rapid positives – 17 cycles – because people are shedding far more of it.
I bow to your expertise Helena but too much information is now coming out relating to Big Pharma and Governments around the world and something smells badly. The jabs are experimental and as long as the manufacturers are given freedom from prosecution there is no way I am taking it. Every single person I know who has had it has had some reaction or another and yet none of them have reported it on the Yellow Card site because they had never heard of it. This article in yesterday’s Conservative Woman is a good place to start I think as there has to be a placebo group to make a proper assessment of the benefits, or not, of “vaccinating” in this case. https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/join-the-unvaccinated-control-group/
The fact that we are still talking about and at times disagreeing with all this Covid mystery virus saga shows just how manipulated we have become.
There is only one question and that is ” Is there a public health emergency right now, or not”? Answer NO.
All viral and bacterial infections last around eight weeks maximum. Covid-19 was all over by the end of May 2020 hence the Eat Out to Help Out gimmick.
But after that big pharma had taken over and the rot had set in. I wish more people would listen to Dr Michael Yeadon and Dr Vernon Coleman and perhaps they would understand a bit more of what is really happening and why. This is not about a medical emergency and hasn’t been for over twelve months and by paying attention to the WEF and its manifesto will explain just about everything.
WEF: World’s Evil Fantasy. Sadly they want to make it all come true and they will get away with it unless we can persuade more people to oppose them and their minions such as Boris.
Helena… are you not the woman who claimed to be Richard Braine’s friend then the minute he was elected leader set about trying to topple him
It is unarguable that at the very start of the “pandemic” the world-wide medical industry threw all previously accepted standards and plans for pandemic control, alongside statistical good practice (anybody that dies with a positive covid test within preceding 28 days dies of Covid???), out of the proverbial window in favour of (at the time) untested lock-downs.
They then proceeded happily to throw the Nuremberg Codes out of the window. They are going to vaccinate our kids, right down to babes in arms, with “vaccines” that have not completed their stage 3 trials and have not received any authorisation other than their “emergency use” application. Call me old-fashioned, but WHY?
Now consider –
a) Covid symptoms are shared by any number of other illnesses, especially flu and radiation poisoning (NY City?).
b) Anyone coming into hospital is immediately tested for Covid, and regularly whilst they remain in care.
c) If they test positive, what need for any further test for other options (like flu)? The diagnosis is already baked in.
Now ask: What percentage of false positives does “the test” generate?
Now ask: Why did the WHO in January release an advisory that a test is insufficient to identify a case?
Now ask: Why did flu disappear last winter?
Now ask: How many were denied appropriate treatment because they had a false Covid diagnosis and there was no MHRA-approved treatment for Covid?
Conclusion – it only needs the wrong answer to the first of these questions to have a totally fake pandemic on our hands.
One year later, Is there any convincing evidence that the lockdowns stayed the progress of the “pandemic”? So cui bono?
I could go on, but given the ever-mutating SAGE “rules/guidance” we should be very cautious in which authorities we choose to place our confidence. At the very least we want to know how accurate the PCR “gold standard” test really is . . . and whether the outcomes can be manipulated.
Good points Jim but sadly most people don’t ask; they just meekly comply.
PCR testing is another big scam. Government throwing billions of our money at it. People being paid to take tests. A national disgrace
Very well said Jim!! I note there has been no mention in the article of the interview between Dr David Martin and Reiner Fullmich! I would have thought that patent documentation was a prime piece of evidence of malpractice in the pharma industry!
Forgive me please. I have read and been bombarded with ‘experts’ from all sides.
As a science person down to my toes, I have analysed what data is available. I have computed the false positive stats myself.
In the words of the song, if you can’t please everybody, you may as well please yourself.
Comment zoomed off of its own accord (again).
Manipulation of ‘death’ due to buses a month after having stage three cancer imputed to corvid, hospitals getting a bounty for putting corvid on a death certificate (ref care worker known to me) and on and on.
February 2020 my doctor (you remember them) said there had been a ‘particularly nasty flu’ over Christmas. I along with dozens and dozens of others where I live had this nasty flu.
Conclusions.
We are not all going to die any time soon
If you are under 50 and or in good health a couple or three days in bed, just like flu, you will be over it. IF you get it in the first place.
‘jabbing’ is not a vacine, just a moderator.
Many companies have made a fortune in programming 12,000 million pounds for test and prosecute; in millions of unused masks and hazmat suits et al, to your mates. No copetitive tendering here mate.
Coersion and mandatory jabbing is against your human rights. Jehova’s Witness and othe religions wont take these gene modifiers under any circumstances.
Governments across the world are bringing in medical passports. I would not be surprised if the gullible sending off swabs to be ‘checked’, are also having their DNA and such recorded – a Tony Bliar, Bill Gates et al project. Airports already insist on eye scans and fingerprints – so much for freedom.
And then there is the economy . . .
Thanks Helena. So what is the truth about infection ? From shopping trolley handles ? What is the of bin-liners used as pinnies if it is respiratory transmission. ?
Are cheap face masks any use at all ?
Surely it is unarguable that age and general health are the main factors in mortality..as with everything.
How to row back from hysteria ?
The truth Eugene, is that this is an airborne infection, like norovirus, flu even, measles, chickenpox and other cold viruses. So, the WHO lied! By all means wipe the shopping trolley handle, wash your hands frequently and use a disposable apron but ….. don’t cover your eyes? Missing a mucosal surface! Yes, the stats are there, people in specs caught it less frequently. And the mask? For proper protection FFP2 at least, pref FFP3, worn properly and changed as appropriate. That is protect you – the cheap face covering projects anything you shed upwards instead of straight at who you are serving/talking to.
Which brings me to air circulation and ventilation…..
Eyes and surgical masks. Whatever. but don’t go encouraging TPTB. who constantly tighten the screw over masks etc. , with coercion , and this won’t stop getting progressively worse until we say Enough. Leaving just the nervous people free to wear whatever protection they like.
The motive is to maintain atmosphere of fear , obedience training, humiliation, reminding us we’re now serfs, and it is dehumanising and spiteful. I have no doubt about that at all.
At the rate we’re going, I see a future where we are forced to go around in maybe surgical masks and maybe goggles everywhere, indoors, outdoors – for the rest of our lives. Kids included. What a ghastly future.
We’re humans, not dogs or creatures from a science fiction horror film.
Hooray for Mary! Very well said indeed! This is no longer a World inhabited by human beings. We are progressively being turned into ‘lab rats’ to be manipulated, enslaved and possibly eliminated at the whim of a very evil set of persons.
‘Experts’ may well have studied deeply but unless their hearts and minds are open and unbiased, using their knowledge for the absolute good of all, they are enemies not friends!
Re surgical masks, don’t I recall reading somewhere that these only are effective under certain controlled conditions eg in an operating theatre
It is indeed true, as a general point, that some viruses can be passed on by someone not showing any symptoms – HIV for example. I do not know if there are respiratory diseases like that other than covid, Even if covid was only infectious once symptoms appeared it is far from obvious that symptoms would be unambiguously apparent and immediately identifiable as covid. Symptoms need not appear conveniently early in the morning, and of sufficient intensity, to stop someone going out and meeting others. There is no sharp divide between not having covid and being infectious with it. The people I know who have tested positive have done so after symptoms that ranged from “hell” to just a mysterious loss of taste and smell via sore throats, coughs, and headaches which symptoms were not all at once initially.
There is an issue with false positives, particularly with so called lateral flow tests, but false positives in PCR tests (said to be low) are only statistically significant when the prevalence of the virus is low which is not currently the case.
There are strong criticisms to be made of the government and the ineffectiveness of some restrictions which are damaging beyond imagined benefits, and I agree with Helena that basing a case on falsehoods and unsubstantiated assertions is not the way to do it.
An interesting article Helena, Which takes my understanding a few bits of steps further.First I an no scientist in the messy arts. Appertaining to this conversation I am only a statisticion, and have to rely on what i get. But.
All scientists of anything leapt on this thing. With everyone wanting facts. They didn’t come. They still eighteen months later haven’t . The rtle one item is still not really known, only degrees of possibility. Factual statistically Nil. ( Like two out of five people died who had no contact.).
However I still maintain , andyou confirm, but write with slightly differing emphasis :-If you are under 70 and healthy you will not die. And obese is not healthy. Our response should obviously have been to Vaccinate the vulnerable. But certainly not kids.
However this is all justification. I have always looked at this in total not through th warping of Medicine its beliefs, proffessional restrictions, its stupendoes memory, But in my mind equally importantly ,thru the distortions of Political advantages, economic disruption, personal preservation, Hedgehog / turtle syndrome., and pure practicality. Left in the hands of politics and Sage which is I assume full of the left behind wases.
Test and trace is so obvious that the uneducated public and UN understands the theory. Ludicrous..But its pointlessness is ignored. Meanwhile we waste economic advantage with a childish toy.
We cannot ignore that thevaccine is only partially usefully, it is not yet safe ( Except to experts, ) and we have taken a dangerous step. And are about to take an even more dangerous by jabbing kids.
And I think it is possible.( Not yet likely ) that the economic landscape could change, and Africa will soon be sending us experts and exports until inflation, deflation, dsappearance of money ( cash ), lack of land, capital, organisation,investment , law, etc will just leave cheap energy ( People ) .( Enclosures, clearances etc )
Helena. The Great Barrington Declaration said FROM THE START:- Give those that are susceptible to serious illness and death as much protection as possible, while allowing others to live as normal a life as possible.
That is the policy that should have been followed.
Yeees – and try being one of those who was effectively a prisoner with no release date. Although, such a disastrous cock up have Whitty & Co made that they may as well have gone Great Barrington.
There was an element of relief when the first lockdown was announced (in our home protective measures had been taken weeks earlier), I was lucky, we were able to continue working almost as normal but the weekend before the announcement I drew up shift rotas to roster the two of us with vulnerable husbands together, to keep us separate from those with school age children and commuting partners (one of whom was a week later to be off sick, confirmed by an antibody test in the summer as Covid). When rates rose again in the Autumn I stated that I was prepared to introduce that shift rota and wear full PPE to work if it meant pupils could stay at school and pubs open for those who were prepared to go in them. (No, we were strictly outdoor dining until jabbed – our bodies, our choice, just as for those who prefer not to be jabbed) As for the vulnerable ones – yep, no more shopping, even with FFP3 masks.
And that brings me to another conundrum – people do modulate their behaviour, just as Sweden’s Anders said. So a lot of people who were concerned for themselves or who had contact with the vulnerable would not be going on public transport, to cinemas, theatres, restaurants, pubs – even shops. The higher the infection rate the more abstentions. Business would STILL suffer! A lot of older people I know cancelled Christmas visits before Boris did after the first vaccine approval was announced. They did not intend to put themselves at risk when they were so close to getting vaccinated.
Helena. Your article criticises the information given in Anthony Webber’s post.
Do you also consider yourself more knowledgeable than the medical professionals that drafted the Great Barrington Declaration?
In knowledge terms, I consider us equals. There is no perfect solution and thank goodness Ferguson couldn’t advocate contiguous culls with humans. Whatever choice is made will have its pros and cons. I raised some of the reasons why Barrington wasn’t a perfect solution back in the day and reminded you just now that a downside is making the vulnerable prisoners. And actually, even without following tha path people in care homes have been treated like prisoners.
The half cock and prolonged lockdowns we’ve had since last Autumn may even have been worse – certainly it has got peoples backs up so much that politically, not progressing out of current restrictions has become untenable despite the increases in deaths and illness. (yes, I know, from a low level but after 6 weeks of mainly single figures in England – on the actual day of death, not the Gvt televised stats which are rubbish- to mainly double since mid June)
And re Ivermectin; ” I would like to see some proper trials I can trust”.
But isn’t the whole point that people have tried but Govt have blocked trials of Ivermectin and won’t countenance any honest discussion about it ?
They won’t discuss any damn thing for that matter. I protested to my MP about vaccinating children and very severe adverse reactions; his reply was that anyone questioning this was a loon crank and conspiracy theorist.
Please name and shame, thanks!
Wm Jaeger : Do you mean name and shame my MP, or the people who are suppressing Ivermectin?
The first answer is the Mole Valley MP Paul Beresford. I still have the email. It was written by his assistant Sam White but the responsibility lies of course with PB.
The second answer re who precisely supressing Ivermectin :
There are a number of good articles on Conwom , here’s one https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/scandal-of-the-suppressed-case-for-ivermectin/
Like my MP you mean….the Minister for ‘Care’. Who wrote the following to me when I dared to remonstrate about the possibility of enforced vaccination and vaccination passports:-
“Firstly I’m afraid I have to adamantly disagree with you about the vaccine. The vaccines are not gene-therapy, and they will not alter human DNA. A number of independent bodies have fact checked these claims and explained why this is not the case. You might be interested to read the BBC’s recent vaccine fact check here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/54893437”
To Frederica; You say your MP wrote : “number of independent bodies have fact checked these claims and explained why this is not the case. You might be interested to read the BBC’s recent vaccine fact check here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/54893437”
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