We soon won’t see their likes any more
I couldn’t take the day off today. I had to write this ‘Sunday Special’ because I am incandescent with rage. The latest government proposal is the reason. They are seriously thinking about locking the elderly and the younger ‘shielded’ in their homes, forever. This proposal, ‘exclusively revealed’ in the DT’s top article this morning is illustrated by other articles both in the DT and in The Times.
My anger was kicked off by the DT’s headline “Elderly may be asked to stay at home under ministers’ blueprint to avoid new lockdown”. The rationale for this, for the accompanying ‘measures’, are breathtaking:
“Boris Johnson has asked officials to prepare a suite of possible measures that could help avoid shutting down the economy for a second time, after he said that he wanted to avoid another lockdown. The options include a programme of “enhanced” or “differential” shielding, as part of which vulnerable people would be asked to remain at home while the rest of the population continued to move around freely. One proposal is for the shielded group to be allocated specific times of the week to have exclusive access to some services and shops.” (paywalled link)
‘Calming word’s aside, this looks like the ghettoisation of people not based on race – we do remember our history of the early 20th century, don’t we! – but on age and health, as the elderly, regardless of their fitness, and the younger, less healthy cohorts are banned from the public spaces in our towns and cities. I am not exaggerating, they are drawing up plans:
“Officials from the Cabinet Office’s Covid-19 unit are understood to have suggested an enhanced shielding programme as part of a series of possible alternatives to a national lockdown. Mr Johnson has now sanctioned the team to develop the options into formal policy proposals.” (paywalled link)
Words fail me! They’re actually going to make these proposal into ‘formal policies’. It’s no longer a ‘war game’. Here are some details which made me gasp with outrage. It’s not sufficient that those ‘at risk’ are told to stay behind their locked doors, here are some administrative details:
“Under the proposals, a greater number of people would be asked to take part in the shielding programme, based on their age or particular risk factors that have been identified since March. […] Officials have also stated that people with diabetes, heart disease and dementia all appear to be at higher risk of death.” (paywalled link)
It’s not as if the unfortunate elderly with dementia are roaming the streets, is it! Will anyone of any age with diabetes or ‘heart disease’ now also be incarcerated in their homes, ‘just in case’? Are they not on medication allowing them to lead a life as normal as possible? This next bit is even more worrying:
“A Government source said: “The shielding list was binary, you’re either on it or you’re not. Now we know more, we can be more sophisticated about it.” (paywalled link)
Indeed, government can be ‘more sophisticated’ about it! Now they have data of all those who needed to tell e.g. grocery superstores that they had to shield themselves, in order to have delivery slots allocated. If you think those grocery superstores won’t collaborate with government and hand over their data, think again. After all, we’re in ‘a war’ and different rules apply!
The Times has helpfully and uncritically reported from that war-gaming cabinet meeting. If you think their and the DT’s ‘sources’ weren’t given the green light to leak, then better think again! These articles are trial ballots for government to gauge our reactions. The language, the expressions, are frightening in their implications:
“The prime minister convened a war gaming exercise last Wednesday in No 10 that could also pave the way for draconian travel restrictions in and out of London and at Britain’s airports if the virus flares up in the capital. When the prime minister paused the lifting of the lockdown last week he compared the prospect of a full national lockdown to a “nuclear deterrent” that should be used only as a last resort. But behind the scenes aides say he is demanding tactical nuclear weapons in his armoury to combat Covid-19.” (link, paywalled)
What is it with Johnson, Sunak and the rest, playing ‘war games’, using militaristic language! Does Johnson really believe this is what Churchill would have done? And look at those ‘tactical nuclear weapons’ he’s demanding. It’s not just a ‘more sophisticated’ ghettoisation of all who are either old or ill or both, there’s also talk of ghettoising all who live inside the M25:
“in Wednesday’s war game he agreed that if infections rose significantly, overnight stays in London would be banned, Londoners could be subject to stay-at-home orders, and close-contact services such as hairdressers would close. […] Most controversially, the ministers concluded that people would be advised not to travel in and out of the capital, raising the prospect of restrictions on those inside the M25. “That would be the border point,” an insider said.” (link, paywalled)
Are they for real? Will any travellers arriving at the London airports be locked out because: ‘quarantine’? Does Sunak have any idea about the effect on the country’s economy this would have? Or are they relying on the quarantine ‘exemptions’ government has worked out? We reported this a few days ago – look it up on the government site again.
Next, look at how these war-gamers are talking about their planned ghettoisation of ‘special groups’:
“The third and final discussion was on what Whitehall officials called the “frog boiling” scenario, when the prevalence of the virus increases gradually but inexorably across the entire country, with local lockdowns failing to prevent “many local fires becoming a wider conflagration”. Johnson sanctioned work to go ahead on plans for “enhanced shielding”, which would see the number of people judged clinically vulnerable and urged to stay at home increased from the current total of 2.2 million to “a much wider group”. (link, paywalled)
‘Local fires’, ‘wider conflagration’: omigawd, we’re so scared – measures must be taken! It’s about that ‘2nd wave’. This is still only based on case numbers, “caused” not by a ‘conflagration’ but by more testing. Hospitals are not overwhelmed – you can bet your last shirt that ‘Our MSM’ would have been full of scare stories of CV-19 victims swamping ‘Our NHS’.
Their ‘tactical nuclear weapon’ apparently consists in writing ‘personalised’ letters to everyone deemed to be ‘at risk’ because ‘scientists’ now know better who all fall into that category. Will Johnson tell us personally to ‘stay in your house, you’re a leper’? I suspect however that this ‘tailored’ approach will be used to “encourage” the elderly to take up whatever vaccine will be presented, regardless of side effects.
You’ll be relieved to learn that this ‘plan’ is not yet ‘policy’, but don’t worry, ‘they’ are working on it even while realising that this might be ever so slightly ‘controversial:’
“It is likely that this would mean people being put in tiered risk levels but would be controversial because it could be depicted as quarantine by age. Most of those affected, if the shielding plans are adopted, are likely to be over 65. Johnson has ordered the Covid-19 taskforce to work up options but officials stress that the plan is not yet policy.” (link, paywalled)
These clever clogs call it ‘segmentation approach’. They will ‘spell out the risk factors’ so that all know why they should stay ‘out of harm’s way’, especially ‘when it gets colder’. They seem certain that we’ll all comply. Hasn’t that mask-wearing exercise shown government that frightened people are willing to comply even with medically nonsensical measures? Here’s a lovely explanation by one of those war-gaming civil serpents:
“A No 10 source said: “Another national lockdown is like our nuclear deterrent — we will never rule it out but it should be the very last resort in the fight against Covid. That is why the PM ordered officials to deliver a menu of policy options. Where there are smaller outbreaks, like we saw in the northwest this week, there should be fast, targeted, local action. However, if this fails we need other options, so officials have been told to work up measures such as enhanced shielding and tough quarantine.” (link, paywalled)
‘Tough quarantine’ – what is that? Only opening your door to take in food while wearing a mask? You’ll be glad to hear that all this is in line with WHO ‘advice’ where one of their officials has stated that local lockdowns are much to be preferred, warning against ‘a return to national lockdowns’ (link). That means that anyone criticising Johnson’s ‘tactical nuclear weapons’ on social media will be banned by their WHO ‘police’.
It is irrelevant that this hysterical war-gaming was based on that ‘orrible rise of case numbers by 14 cases. It’s also irrelevant that the ‘test-and-trace’ exercise is failing, as The Times reports (link, paywalled). We’ve reported on that situation weeks ago.The effect of these war games on the economy are equally irrelevant. Ross Clark describes in his opinion piece in the DT these ‘exercises’ as ‘knee-jerk and arbitrary’, concluding:
“The government has let it be known it is prepared to react suddenly and furiously to small changes in Covid-19 infection rates. It seems to have no corresponding concern about the ever-more dramatic unemployment statistics.” (paywalled link)
One wonders why Sunak is suddenly so unconcerned about that effect – a few more unemployed are apparently another set of ‘collateral damage’.
And finally – here’s the first indication that we’re gently being prepared for that coming ghettoisation of the elderly. None other than Hannan the Judas Goat comes out in the DT with this remark:
“Older people, though more vulnerable to the disease itself, have not been so inconvenienced by the measures aimed at arresting it.” (paywalled link)
Yes, ‘older people’ have been fine under lockdown, especially those elderly waiting for operations cancer treatment. Be prepared to become another statistic under ‘collateral damage’ should you become ill. Older people simply must do ‘their bit’, even unto hardened quarantine’, for the sake of the rest of the population, those rubber-dingy incomers included.
So shut up, stay indoors, do your bit and shoulder the burden of irrational fear driving Johnson and Whitehall – a fear perpetuated by ‘Our MSM’. I’ll now go and smash some plates – after all, being incarcerated, I won’t be allowed to have and feed visitors. One plate will be sufficient for my needs. Is it worthwhile to still
KBO?
What is happening to our rubber dinghy visitors? Are they let loose in the community to fend for themselves without somewhere to live and no job? Or are they being housed in hotels and private accommodation paid for by taxpayers?
And by all accounts allowed to roam wherever they like without restriction. I have also read that they go around in gangs, walk into front and rear gardens of nearby homes and try doors etc. If this is what Johnson considers ‘levelling up’ then I am not interested in the slightest. He and his useless government should be putting the interests of British citizens first and foremost, and sending illegal entrants back to wherever they came from, after having had them charged with offences under the Immigration Act 1971. This is not what we voted for in December 2019.
VIVIAN, IT IS ALWAYS WORTHWHILE TO K.B.O. – DO IT NOT, AND THESE FOOLS WIN !
I am 75 and living in Northampton. – I am also an individual not best impressed by ”Something must be done. – This is something so that’s what we will do” ! ….. I am a Christian, and my ‘Faith Card’ is marked up to date. – I have done my three score years and ten, plus ! – I do not buy into this political health assurance, and I never will !
By the way, with this ‘concern’ for my life, from PM Johnson and his mates, would it not be appropriate to understand the cut to my income due to the virus lockdown,- being helped by Government action in taking back age benefit from the BBC in Licence Fees ? ….. If this ever permeated into the minds of Ministers, who are so busy playing war games with a virus, we might consider that someone is governing ! – Speaking of the BBC. – How about making the BBC join the twenty-first century in their business system ? – All it requires is de-criminalising non payment of the fee, which should go through Parliament easily, with note made for those against it ! – Let the BBC charge those who use their service, like the other channels do, rather than this Mafia system, of ‘We provide the service, so everyone has to pay’ ! – Government is tainted directly in this !
Generally I have been a law abiding subject of the Crown. – I do however give notice of that changing, if these measures are implemented !
Incandescent with rage is the correct response to this proposal and any proposal that pretend that we are suffering a plague. Covid 19 is mild by comparison to many other diseases and kills the very weak and sick. This is not something new, it’s life. But the Government and other leaders around the world are acting like tyrants. half a million people dying of Covid globally is not sufficient for this kind of response. We must ask in areas that are locked down are their more hospital admissions? are there more deaths? This nonsense must stop. As for Boris remind him we elected him and his Party ans we can get rid of him too. And all of them. It’s time for a Reform Party that does nor buy into this Covid fear.
I say to Boris make old’uns stay in. Its Young as are losing work.
I decided not to wear a mask in shops. An easy form of protest. Neither will I stay at home if told to, but will go and run my small business as usual. How are they intending to stop me?
When laws are wrong, it’s wrong to obey them.
Totally agree. Not only is it wrong to obey them, it is right to annul them. A Common Law Court and Annulment by Jury is my preferred option.
The New Chartist Movement website mentions this. https://www.newchartistmovement.org.uk
But none of this was going to happen under the stranglehold of LibLabTory which voters always cling to for reasons I can’t fathom. How are we to get to the point where we can make this happen. Is it too late. Any suggestions?
Hello Mary! I have been suggesting on these pages on many occasions (as have I feel certain, others!) that the country simply MUST wake up.
All of those who favour ‘the right’ in politics, regardless of the label they use, MUST URGENTLY combine as a major opposition against the evil of the Lib/Lab/Tory Masters.
There is simply no other way to follow, no course of action which will change this idiotic scenario.
The country was given the opportunity to change the balance of power – (the old UKIP) and they baulked at the prospect – Huh!
NOW they are paying the price.
Will they EVER get wise? Frankly, NO!
The majority have rice pudding for brains.
I despair of any change taking place – we are just too dim. Period.
Do you imagine for one moment that a coalition of the Right would allow gangsters in black to parade through our streets in militant procession without them being coralled and dispersed?
Not on your life.
But one thing is absolutely certain……no existing Party would ever do it.
Never, ever.
You who pipe-dream about change? Dream on!
Fritter away your time on pointless blabber, wasted words, wasted rhetoric – you are going, politically, NOWHERE.
And I am SO sorry to say it. Our beloved country is being led by a bumbling second-rate comic, babbling and incomprehensible and proven to be what we used to call ‘a waster’.
Mister Paul as regards the gangsters in black parading with masks, there is an existing law that makes this illegal. Just the police are too ‘frit’ to use it, as they are on anyone except whitey.
Good for you. Join the club. Docile obedience only encourages the Govt fascists and emboldens them to worse outrages.
And “When laws are wrong, it’s wrong to obey them”. Quite right. How far will th public go in obeying evil laws; if the law said they had to go around strangling anyone with say red hair, I honestly believe some of them would do it !
Got my first ever Tesco Click and Collect order in. Very easy as I tend to get the same things anyway. I don’t have a local Sainsburys who are laid back about nomasking and my Waitrose since yesterday has a prominent Muzzle Up sign on the door and a one headed Cerberus to enforce it. Bye. Don’t want to eat (literally) to o much into my dry goods stash. Could be in for a long siege.
So you don’t care if you could be an asymptomatic carrier, then? Blow the rest of us – is that your position?
This is obviously part of the plan to ‘soften us up’ for the day their lucrative vaccine is produced like a diseased rabbit out of a hat. It’ll be known that those most resistant to and sceptical about this unproven vaccine will be in the targeted age group. The ”elderly” are the ones who are well aware that life is short and who no doubt had plans for retirement that would include travel. They will be desperate to be let out of their cages to enjoy what remains of their lives. (Unless the vaccine makes them ill, in which case, goodbye to all that.)
This is worth watching for some professional common sense and information. But be quick, before it’s taken down!
https://www.teapartypatriots.org/live-broadcasts/americas-frontline-doctors-summit/
This blackmailing into “accepting” the vaccine before being allowed to travel or even live a normal life (which is the form the coercion will take, I believe), is beyond evil. Vaccines are not safe at all, even when they’ve been “tested and approved;” things could still go horribly wrong. And vaccines have caused paralysis and brain damage. What does this say about our politicians who just don’t care and refuse to protect us from predatory Big Pharma? Are they not evil beyond imagining? And they will ensure that we taxpayers pay for the lawsuits for damages, resulting from vaccines which they have forced on us.
Vernon Coleman “the old man in a chair: ”
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd6F39mg7LPUkw1BfiJDibw/videos
PS No way are they going to vaccinate me. I am entitled to effectively defend myself from anyone trying to injure me..
This is all so true – The opening doctor has been fired from her hospital, where she worked for I beleive 20 years, for doing this video and is now sueing the hospital and the case looks hugely favourable for her – So much like this is being done to people who question the madness of what our masters are doing to us – This conspiracy video I have previously dismissed as a spoof but with every day it looks more plausible – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQcvuftqXFY – The way the “3 week” lockdown has morphed into a war to defeat the virus is absurd….surely the only way out is the ‘herd immunity’ that our MSM seem to regard as a new evil speak – Are they really trying to slow the rate of infection so there will still be some people to claim to protect by enforced vaccination and helath passports and the billions it will make for the drug companies?
Yes that’s right, a combination of Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin & Zinc Sulphate has cured most Covid-19 patients it’s been tried on since April. But those remedies have been on the market for years, so there are no super-profits in them for the drug companies. Whereas the profits from a vaccine against Covid-19, once it’s patented and vaccination is made compulsory, will be enormous. Big Pharma will be grateful to any government that makes its anti-Covid vaccine compulsory.
Hello Vivian
If the Elderly are to be to prohibited from going out will the Government pay for Elderly’s TV licences as compensation.
I hardly watch any BBC programs or listen to BBC radio. One of the results of the 2016 referendum has shown that you can no longer trust the BBC to be impartial. Local news on the TV is basically non existent, local radio news is on channels that I would not normally tune into. Would I miss the BBC if it ceased to broadcast. The answer has to be NO. Close the BBC down!
Will I vegetate if I l am legally prevented from leaving home. The answer is no. I will continue to use the internet. Using the internet is easier than using public transport to travel to the nearest big town/city which is a minimum of 30 miles distant. Hourly bus services discourage local use and two hour services with 1½ hours travelling each way discourages travelling by bus. What value is there in a bus pass.
Now the proposal to close pubs again in September will not affect me if I am not allowed out of my home. There may be a knock on effect in my finding there is a life outside using public houses and supermarket cafes. Evenings out will have to be to locations within walking distance of where I live. Do not book for the local council run entertainment centre as it might rain on the chosen evening as I would need wellingtons due to flooded footpaths. Motorists might complain of pot holes, I no longer complain of atrocious footpaths nor flooded footpaths because of the repairs resemble patchwork.
A final thought. When will the English citizen be given the same political rights as Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. The 2016 referendum confirmed that most of the MPs cannot be trusted and that mistrust is still there. In England local, regional and national government is only fit for the scrap heap.
Now a more positive view. Mr David Frost is doing an excellent job trying to achieve a trade deal with the EU. Mr Frost please ensure that the European Union Court of Justice has no place in UK law. Ensure that there is a fishing agreement once the EU realises and acknowledges that the UK is an independent country.
I’m struggling here. The ‘when it gets colder’ remark implies that we’re listening to ignorant idiots who don’t yet know what we know, that to keep their immunity up people need to take vitamin D2 in the winter months when there’s a distinct paucity of sun shining on uncovered skin. And then for those that do get it, there’s the cure. Dare I say it?
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE!
So the questions remain: Are they really that daft? Or, in the unlikely event that they know exactly what they’re doing, are they really that evil?
Of course, we do need to remember. They’re young. Perhaps Boris and his mates are just playing war games! Too many James Bond films earlier on?
They need to stop playing games and get back to running the country.
And leave us to carry on as normal. When the buzzer sounds and our number is called off we go!
Until then we LIVE!
PS If they are serious they’d better be careful. Some old soldiers have been keeping fit and practicing archery.
You’re right, Mr Keal. They’re daft or evil. There are other possibilities though – they’re self-interested/intimidated/bought out. Maybe those come under ”evil”.
This is what happens when sheep obediently breeze around shops and even the street in masks after 4 months of not doing so just because the Great (in size) Helmsman has spoken. The time for mass civil disobedience and independent thought was July 24th. Show them they are powerless.
12 miles yesterday – in 30deg plus – 5 today. Must keep fit for inspection day.
Our government is not evil. It is simply incompetent and overwhelmed. If we get a real blip measured in hundreds of extra deaths then they will probably spontaneously combust.
JF
Our Govt is most definitely incompetent (or worse) and we need it to be overwhelmed by popular derision.
I did a mere 10 miles yesterday and a 37 (e)bike ride today. The Government still haven’t taken away our glorious countryside but I’m sure several departments are working on it.
Sorry it cannot be anything but evil. I think I know evil when I see it. No other explanation of what it is doing, plus they NEVER LISTEN and thumb their noses at you if you protest. The warning signs were there even before the last election, when compulsory obscene sex education for very young kids and deliberately brainwashing them that there is no distinction between right and wrong. Plus since when have they ever cared one bit about their citizens, our culture.
Sounds like we over-70s are expendable.
Is there anyone so stupid that they cannot see that this is nothing to do with viruses. It’s a plan for a prison state like North Korea.
Town was teeming with visitors and shoppers yesterday have not seen it so busy since last summer, outside of shops virtually no masks in evidence , people just taking care in the main to keep a reasonable distance from others.
Jesus Christ! The world has gone mad. I think that we have to stop fooling ourselves that our government is here to look after our interests: it is not.
The world economy behind all of the mainstream media propaganda is falling of a cliff: we’re in for some very desperate times and the government knows this. No wonder the government is experimenting with ways to lock us down.
Then of course, later this year, there is the US Presidential elections to be followed by our final supposed departure from the European Union. Did you really think that the globalists that include most of our politicians were really going to let us walk away from the EU and put up with another four years of Donald Trump? No chance, they’ve been working on their globalisation project for sixty or seventy years, they’ll just expose themselves for the power crazed tyrants that they really are.
China has been building up military forces on their Tibetan border with India and India is very alarmed: World War Three could kick off at any time and is looking increasingly imminent.
If you thought 2020 was bad, 2021 and probably beyond is going to be much worse, expect all of this racial BLM and Antifa stuff to explode to the point where we’ll have to retaliate later this year and into the next with a likely world war as the world economy implodes.
Sorry to be so gloomy but it’s just the way that I see it. As far as our politicians are concerned, I think it’s time for rope and lamposts.
Ropes and cherry pickers seem to be the platform of choice in many countries these days Flyer, but jesting apart you are so right about China and India, and it would seem that civil disturbance could well happen here, still as we are still being tied to e.u defense and security which includes domestic policing, I’m sure our ‘friends’ in eugenfor will be delighted to come here and assist ‘our’ police.
These idiots forget that numerous businesses are run by the over 50’s and 60’s…so lock em up and watch the remaining economy crash. I’m a reasonably fit 64, soon to be 65…if they think I’m going to lock myself away till I conveniently die they’ve got another think coming. If people fall for this, IF such things become policy, then we are truly lost. However, the genie is coming out of the bottle fast now. We are the only ones who can save ourselves.
It’s becoming horribly clear that ”crashing the economy” is of no concern to our Dear Leader and his cohort. It’s hard to imagine why this should be – unless we think the unthinkable. That we’ve been sold out.
We are the only ones who can save ourselves. It has ever been so. We delude ourselves if we think differently.