It is extraordinary how the – sadly still – PM Theresa May bungled even her attempt to get the support from Labour for her WA. We heard yesterday morning that, as predicted, she wrote the letter to the EU asking for an extension to Article 50 until June 30th. That letter was sent before her Remain delegation and the Corbyn delegation resumed talks.
Given the content of the May letter to the EU it’s no wonder that Labour declared the talks had broken down as Ms May ‘made no concessions’. Mind you, these talks will resume over the weekend … it’s good to talk, innit, especially when it just fills the time available while everybody knows there won’t be a resolution at the end, simply because Ms May had conceded in her letter to Mr Tusk that the WA would not be reopened.
So when we read that:
“Labour sources accused the prime minister of negotiating in bad faith after Downing Street sent the party an outline deal that offered no concessions to its central demand for a customs union with the EU.” (paywalled link)
we know that these talks are yet another incarnation of the smoke-and-mirror show May and her Remain Whitehell handlers have been trying to dazzle us with ever since they started to negotiate with the EU.
We note that Ms May has learned well from her handlers: negotiating in bad faith is, after all, what the EU has been doing, aided and supported by our civil serpent ‘negotiators’. Funny that this is only now being spoken about openly, e.g. by a certain Mr Rees-Mogg here.
But what do I know – they may very well come up with a face-saving fudge in order to keep us in the EU and cry ‘Remain in the EU in our time’!
Of course, the first replies to this May letter come from France. Not only are they slapping down Ms May’s demand, they are now also attacking Mr Tusk (here):
“Non, nee, nein to Brexit delay: Macron leads EU leaders in slapping down Tusk’s calls for a 12-month ‘flextension’ for the UK as Dutch PM and German minister say May needs to answer ‘key questions’ or face a No Deal”.
I’ll just point out that the Project Fear meme of us ‘crashing out’ with no deal in a ‘disorderly fashion’ which has been dinned into us by the Remain MSM, the BBC first and foremost, has been taken up by the EU as in a hall of mirrors.
It doesn’t matter that our own government is preparing for it and that these preparations are well in hand as described by Chris Heaton-Harris, a Brexit minister who resigned a few days ago (paywalled link):
“So much has been going on, it has been easy to miss some vital things: our tariff schedule was recently published, alongside plans showing how we would deal with goods crossing the Northern Ireland border. Our secondary legislation programme is nearly complete and a host of new IT systems to deal with issues connected with Brexit have come online. Our civil servants have moved mountains to prepare our country for leaving the EU without a negotiated deal. At the same time, the European Commission has taken action, too. So the myths that have filled the papers about the threat of no deal to everybody from holiday-makers to businesses really can be debunked.”
Why then do our and the EU politicians and our and their MSM keep screeching about this ‘crashing out’? Surely they cannot think that repeating these Fear-stories we’ll cower and beg to stay IN?
I believe there are two reasons for this stubborn fear-mongering: one is that they – the politicians and the MSM here and across the Channel – now believe their own propaganda to such an extent that they are incapable of seeing the reality.
The other is that, living in the London bubble – the only place where people still prefer Remain, as opposed to the rest of the country – they simply have no idea of what is actually going on outside. Just as the arrogant Remain politicians, the MSM bubble dwellers do not see us, do not hear us and regard us as of no import.
How those inside that bubble think is well demonstrated by the remarks of ‘sources’ made en coulisse about ‘that letter’, which I quote at length so you get the full flavour:
“They said the length of the Article 50 extension will ultimately be determined by the European Union, which is likely to demand a significantly longer delay. The length of the delay, they said, is ultimately less important than ensuring there is a “watertight” mechanism to bring the extension to an end as soon as a deal is secured. They argued that if Britain opts for a shorter extension now the EU may refuse to grant another.” (paywalled link)
Obviously, No Deal simply doesn’t figure in their deliberations any longer. More:
“One source said the discussion centred on whether a shorter Article 50 extension was more a matter of “optics” than one based on “logic and reason”. “We know it will have to be a longer extension,” the source said. “But we can’t make it look like we were going for it. That would be suicide.” Another source said Olly Robbins, the Prime Minister’s chief Brexit negotiator, had advised that the European Union is likely to demand a longer extension.” (paywalled link)
Do let these remarks sink in! And isn’t it Interesting that Mr Oily Robbins is, as always, at the core of any negotiation, and of course the mantra, as always, is “The EU won’t like it” …
The DT’s Brussels correspondent Peter Foster quotes some interesting remarks from ‘sources’ en coulisse in his report (paywalled link) :
“In the context of the Brexit blame-game, where neither side wishes to be responsible for a ‘no deal’, that choice of June 30 looked like a cute move designed to allow Mrs May to say she was being forced into a one-year extension offer, rather than taking the decision on herself. There might have been a time when such things could be choreographed between London and Brussels, but not any more. After four months of Parliamentary failures and backtracking on the Irish backstop, Mrs May has zero reserves of trust or goodwill.”
Doesn’t it look as if these ‘sources’, which provided the first hint of that ‘flextension’, are trying to drive the public debate, rather than our elected representatives? Here’s another instance, with the now obligatory remark of what Tory MPs are thinking:
“Ministers are concerned that her approach has only served to alienate further Eurosceptics and the DUP and reduce the already slim prospect of her deal passing. Tory MPs were holding urgent discussions on how to accelerate the Prime Minister’s departure.”(paywalled link)
Seeing is believing, and I am tired of Tory MP’s or ministers talking about what they might do. As far as I’m concerned they’re still sitting on the pot …
However, taken the sum of these reports, I believe we have the key to Ms May’s extraordinary behaviour. sShe wants to be seen to have ‘clean hands’, she wants to be seen as the only one who ‘only wants to deliver Brexit’ … but, because of all the ‘hardcore Brexiteers’, she needs the help of enemies like Corbyn and Tusk. They, she thinks, can be made to look as ‘making her do it’ the way she actually wants, herself being the unfortunate, helpless victim …
If this interpretation is correct, can we say that Ms May is actually the first Snowflake PM?
Brexit Betrayal + 6
or No Brexit after all?
KBO!
Maybe the Fact Checker itself needs closer examination: is it really an independent donation-funded body? I think “Rev” Sideways has broadly got it right as the EU is developing into a superstate with all its attributes. but he is trying to simplify and put it all in a nutshell, the details of which can be contradicted when you are up against something as slippery and cunning as the EU. Eg the fact checker says the EU doesn’t have its own army: but when you look at eg UK Column or Campaign for Independent Britain re Defence, , you can see this is misleading.
More later.
PS This was meant as an answer to Ken P and Michael Keal.
You can see donations and funding here: https://fullfact.org/about/funding/
The fact that I see the likes of Facebook, Google and Open Society Foundations (George Soros!) listed there leads me to question their impartiality and veracity; they will simply ‘debunk’ anything that goes against the ‘official narrative’.
Gerard Batten UKIP leader with Matt Frei on LBC today
https://twitter.com/UKIP/status/1114587244608798722
It is a pity that it has stopped raining. Perhaps the roof leak in the HoC could have continued a little longer, may be until next Friday!!
regret my typo errors. 1857 should obviously be 1957 and the last word should read crime. print is very small when typing up. me culpa.
Ever since I can remember (the 1970s) the British people have been threatened with dire consequences if we did not enter the EC. (“bulwark agaisnt communism”). “we shall have world government, whether we like iit or not. the only question is whether it wil be by conquest or consent” J Warburg 9o the US Senate 1950.
As Dr. Alan Sked confirmed in Daily Telegraph in 1857 the Macmilllan government had agreed that !”world government ” was a good idea to follow. (see my article on http://www.cravenfreedom.com). In other words the idea of the independent nation state is redundant. So, the EU is happy to give us extensions ad infinitum as that keeps us in!! SIMPLE?
IF WE LEAVE properly the world government idea falls apart!! That is the motive behind the cimie.
Well it’s a start in the war to prevent a world government but the total destruction of the EU and the UN among others are also necessary.
Two of the most overrated and corrupt organisations ever. The danger that is being ignored though is the ‘city state’ and paid ‘Mayors’ now being introduced all over the U.K. There have already been two annual global Mayors congress , where all sorts of things have been discussed and planed. Virtually nothing in or on MSM of course and most people oblivious of what is going on, it appears that most think the Mayor is responsible for getting the dustbins emptied, as always the masses need to follow the money and wake up.
I agree. Anyone curious should look up the Global Parliament Of Mayors. And we’re not talking about the ‘lord Mayor of (insert town name here)’ which are usually just titles without any authority. We’re talking about the Mayor Of London, and the various other ‘metro Mayors’ overseeing various ‘combined authorities’. These will all eventually become ‘regions’ of the federal superstate.
Here in the West Midlands our mayor Andy Street seems to spend much of his time attending various photoshoots, and boasting about the ‘fabulous amounts’ of money being invested in the region. This is usually in the form of ‘dazzling’ new office blocks and/or shopping centres, or highly disruptive transport scheme works, such as HS2, the Midland Metro tram extensions, and of course the ‘Sprint’ bus rapid transit routes. I also note with caution how Mr Street launched a public consultation on scrapping the role of Police & Crime Commissioner and merging it with the Metro Mayor role.
Millions of pounds of ‘government funding’ (ie taxpayers money) being spent like its going out of fashion – literally being thrown at greedy private developers and contractors, to build buildings, shopping centres and transport systems that will benefit no-one, apart from the wealthy globalist elites.
I can only speak from my experiences here in the West Midlands, but I’m willing to bet that similar stories can be told by people living in other ‘combined authority’ areas.
An excellent and amusing article by Michael Shrimpton my be found here:
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/04/04/mays-deal-not-yet-back-from-the-dead/
Great Britain’s surrender document
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKl_uXOFseE
Disclaimer: Since some of the content, to me, seems a little extraordinary, although I do have a vague recollection of reading some of the points raised in the past, I would welcome comments from other readers either attesting to its veracity or otherwise as it’s extremely important.
In particular, Mrs. Maybe we’ll get Brexit but not if I can help it so probably not’s ‘negotiations’ seem now to be focussing on delay, delay and more delay.
We’re well into 2019. 2020 is not far away. Look at the list.
Inexorably, the Plan advances.
Mchael, this gives an explanation that might help.
https://fullfact.org/europe/viral-list-about-lisbon-treaty-wrong/
Michael Keal, Ken P. Please see Stuart Johnson’s comment above: this fact checker gets Soros Open Society funding !
Stuart’s right. It does indeed
Taking various elements on their own; eg the euro; we have a opt- out ?( for what that’s worth!). Some speculate that if the WA is passed, even though technically we’ve left, we’ll have signed up to something worse and we’ll have a spell of something so bad that we’ll be squealing to go back to the present status quo ,clean brexit not of course being an allowed option. the The EU will then ostensibly let us go back to the present status quo; but it won’t be that, as punitive terms will be inflicted to punish us, including being forced into the Euro !! IANAL but I think the WA would enable EU to do whatever they like with us including sucking us into the Euro anyway. Carte blanche. No say. Continued next comment so word count not exceeded.
Continued:
Re fiscal and tax integration: I think the EU has 2 choices, either that or collapse of the EU. Which do you think they’ll choose? and wouldn’t that entail forcing us into the euro?
As for the EU army it’s happening albeit in a very cunning way. I do think broadly Rev Sideways has it right although one needs to be careful about oversimplifying that “its in the Lisbon treaty.”
Would be interested in feedback about all this,
It’s clear which direction the EU is taking…the United States of Europe, which entails even greater integration and loss of sovereignty of the member states. That’s why remaining is just as much a leap in the dark as leaving. The EU as we know it now will not be the same in the future yet this side of the argument is seldom considered, particularly by the remain MP’s who no doubt have their own agenda.
Here’s an article which asks some very inconvenient questions of May-Supporters and the MSM generally – do read it if you have the time:
https://brexitcentral.com/theresa-may-captured-erg-still-eu/
Stuart,
I do not trust Civil servants. ” Working night and day ” . There’s only one reason for that, Pro-EU…. I’m suspicious.
Your experience of details may tell us more about their alignment of tarrifs etc to our ( British ) needs. and any wiley tricks designed to obstruct.( economy with the truth )
A parade of all the liars.
Remember them.
An excellent video which I urge you to watch!
Love the four-up pictures of the Prime Minister saying we’d leave at the end of March 2019!
The ‘Queen’ could stop the Brexit Bill according to the Express. That would be inconceivable and without precedent and not been used since 1707. The Queen has to take the ‘advise’ of her ministers! writes some law lord writing in The Times.
What is conceivable and without precedent, is the actions and behaviour of the Prime Minister, the Cabinet, the Speaker of the HOC and Lords over the past few weeks and days. The hypocrisy of that statement is breathtaking. Dream on ‘ good little people’ we know what’s good for you!
We already know that the Queen is a globalist traitor so don’t expect anything useful from her.
Typical EU tactics going on here, and, with the collusion of The Great Remainer Parliament. The referendum result was not acceptable to either. So, make it as difficult as possible to leave, keep repeating the Project Fear propaganda and drag it out as long as it takes to completely disillusion the population. Then guess what… a Second Referendum. They hope that by this time the people will be so p****d off they’ll accept anything on offer, probably a BINO deal or Remain.