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How much more are we going to take – from That Lot in the EU and from Ms May? Every time That Lot in Brussels meets about Brexit; every time Ms May goes there to grovel and comes back empty-handed, Brexit sinks deeper and deeper into the quicksand.
Even the most ardent Remainer in Parliament and Whitehell ought to have realised by now that the EU is not playing by the rules and that nothing our government offers will ever suffice.
Ah, I forgot: one thing will – revoke Article 50 and crawl back to Brussels like a beaten dog who is expected to lick the hand that beat him, tail wagging!
After last night’s events, will the most ardent Remainer now realise that even revoking Article 50 is about one thing only: to humiliate our country, to destroy our democracy, to trample our political system, our Sovereignty once and for all? I’ll not hold my breath …
Here are the bare bones of what was decided: staying in the EU until October 31st, with a ‘revision’ on June 30ths. If we’ve been ‘good’, the EU might let us go then (paywalled here and here). I’ll come to the gruesome details below.
There’s one detail that came out in Ms May’s press conference afterwards. It is one which ought to get everybody on the barricades. Ms May, not content with blaming Parliament for her own failure to “deliver Brexit”, is now letting it be known that she didn’t really mean that she would go after June 30th:
“Senior government sources said that Mrs May intended to stay on as prime minister until parliament votes for a Brexit deal, however long it takes. In a move that will infuriate Tory Brexiteers, Downing Street made clear that Mrs May’s pledge to step down was conditional on the withdrawal agreement being approved by MPs.” (paywalled link)
That’s correct: she’ll stay and stay and stay like the Duracell Bunny until Parliament does her – and by extension Whitehell’s and the EU’s – bidding. And why not – Parliamentary rules, conventions and precedents have been kicked into the dust by the Speaker and the Remainers in both main parties already, so why should she bother about her ‘deal’ being voted down again and again and again …
Moreover, May’s statement shows that she has so completely internalised the EU leaders’ attitude to voters and their representatives in parliaments that she is unfit to spend even one more day as PM. Quisling doesn’t describe it – she is the EU’s satrap, imposed by the victorious EU on a subjugated province, us.
Now let’s look at how the 27 reached that decision last night. We remember that Mr Tusk wanted to keep us in ‘like forever’, that a long extension was required so we could come to our senses and revoke Article 50.
The awkward member was M Macron who wants us gone with no deal – not from the goodness of his heart but in order to punish us (paywalled link):
“Mr Macron insisted it should be a short delay or no deal: “The British people have chosen to leave the European Union,” he had said before the session began. “It is not up to us to do everything to prevent it happening.” In other words, Britain wanted Brexit, so Britain should have Brexit, without further ado. During the long hours that followed, Mr Macron raged against Britain’s chaotic handling of Brexit and its disruptive effect on the EU. No deal, he argued, would be less damaging than the “dysfunctional” EU that would result from Britain outstaying its welcome.”
Oh dear – that was obviously aimed at Mr Rees-Mogg’s remark about us being as awkward as possible should we remain. And note that on no account are we ‘welcome’ to actually participate in EU decision making. There’s more from Macron:
“Mrs May had not given “sufficient clarity” on how she proposed to get a deal ratified by Parliament. The answer was a short extension until May 7 to put “maximum pressure” on MPs to accept it. One diplomat said halfway through the talks: “He is in a bit of a schizophrenic situation – (his) domestic audience demands he is tough on Britain for historic reasons. On the other hand, France is among the most hard-hit in any no deal Brexit. It will take hours before we pull him down from his tree.” (paywalled link)
Clearly that long session wasn’t really about the technicalities of Brexit – it was about humiliating us and Ms May as much as possible. Just look at this:
“The Greeks, however, had a different plan. Brexit should be delayed for a whole year, humiliating Brexiteers as well as forcing Britain to take part in the European elections next month. Perhaps, they said, it would bring about the end of Brexit itself. […] Discussions were held about harsh conditions being imposed on Britain during any extension, to prevent the sort of meddling advocated by Brexiteers.” (paywalled link)
‘Harsh conditions’, as imposed on a beaten enemy who has surrendered unconditionally … Of course, M Barnier was present and had to play the ‘blame the UK’-card:
“He told the leaders that if there was a no deal Brexit, it would be entirely the UK’s fault because Britain had chosen Brexit, not the EU. “Britain can always avoid no deal,” he said, according to a senior official. “It is Britain’s choice. Britain can ratify the withdrawal agreement or revoke Article 50.” (paywalled link)
A bit early for the blame-game, but he’s only echoing Ms May who is always blaming Parliament. Interestingly enough, Ms Merkel tried to get a longer extension so that her friend Ms May could be made to look good:
“Mrs Merkel told other European leaders that her only goal was to have an orderly withdrawal, to give Britain as much time as it needed to avoid a no-deal Brexit poisoning its relationship with the EU for decades to come. She said that the EU should do everything to ease Mrs May’s path towards finding support for the withdrawal agreement and attacked Mr Macron’s conditions for making the situation more difficult.” (link, paywalled)
Oh dear – trouble in that perfect Merkel-Macron friendship? Or is it a Merkel swansong? See this:
“Mrs Merkel warned that history would not be kind to the EU if Britain were pushed into a no-deal Brexit. “This is a historic moment: for the first time a country is leaving the EU,” she told the German parliament before travelling to Brussels. “How will we look back on this question five or ten years from now?” According to an Élysée official, the French leader replied: “History will not judge us well if we allow Britain’s presence to get in the way of the EU and deeper European integration.” (link, paywalled)
How they are all obsessed with ‘looking good’ in future history books, the three “M’s” – Macron, Merkel, May! And note how they are oblivious to what we the people think! Gilets Jaunes, M Macron?
The modern-day wannabe Napoleon, M Macron, is obsessed with punishing the UK. What our MSM pundits seem to overlook is that we’ve read a sufficient number of reports from countries across the Channel about how well prepared they are for a No Deal Brexit.
Moreover, it seems that M Macron believes that our Remain-obsessed MSM and MPs are correct when they howl that “crashing out” would be a fate worse than death for us. That makes it the perfect instrument to crush the UK, if it were true – which it ain’t.
Are there any silver linings? Disregard the Tory Party’s ever more desperate attempts to get rid of her “legally”. They are cowards, with a few honourable exceptions. For example, the letter by Sir Bill Cash to which I referred in a comment yesterday has still not been published on “ConHome”. It has apparently sunk without a trace. Meanwhile the case by Mr Tilbrook before the High Court is gathering pace – see here.
And what will the Letwin/Cooper crowd have to say now? As we’ve pointed out repeatedly, the EU wouldn’t give tuppence about their ‘Bill’ which has been shown to be worthless.
Will Parliament now finally realise that they are of no account until we have left the EU? Will Corbyn & Co now realise that there’s no such thing as ‘a disastrous Tory Brexit’ because they’d have been given a ‘disastrous Labour Brexit’ by the EU?
Will Labour realise that, thanks to this ‘soft’ extension, any hopes they have of getting into 10 Downing Street and implement socialist policies are now dashed because ‘the EU won’t allow it’?
When will all of them finally realise that Parliament, that their political games, are irrelevant and will remain so until we’re Out? That’s what is meant by taking back our Sovereignty! That’s what we voted for!
It’s not us Leavers who didn’t understand – it’s the whole political establishment in the Westminster Bubble who are the ignorant numpties.
On that note, there’s one thing left to us: start thinking about civic unrest.
KBO regardless!
See:-
http://englishdemocrats.party/
Half way down the home page there is this:-
Former appeal judge says legality of Brexit extension SHOULD be tested – 04 April 2019
That is what all the asking for money is all about above the article.
Looks kosher and is the ”Gobby Girl from Gabon manoeuvre” – but this time against remaining.
With holidays and an extension until Halloween, there should be ample room to get this through before that next leave date.
Any thoughts on this?
Looks worthwhile to me – even if TMay tries to interfere.
I’ve donated what I can afford, although Robin Tilbrook is a very wealthy man – he’s a solicitor! I’m more than happy to put my hand in my pocket if it’s something I believe in.
It seems we have two commenters both calling themselves ‘Michael’. We’ll try and resolve this.
Two different ‘Michaels’ with different emails – it happens.
I suggest that they add the first letter of their surname to their first name, so we and they know who is who and which is which.
Another good day to bury bad news, under more bad news.
The Assange betrayal, he was arrested this morning, after seven years in inhuman conditions, where lack access to fresh air and sunshine will have taken it’s toll on the vitamin D manufacture.
Was this the longest siege in police History???
Apparently the USA would like him to be extradited in their direction, according to the MSM:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47891737
The Rogue Westmonster has broken through the bubble wall, this will affect us all, and not in a good way.
Parliament in in recess after today until St George’s Day.
Very soon after we are in summer recess and after c 23 May the EU is dissolved until September.
The Halloween Deadline is no coincidence. Nothing will be debated between now and then.
That entry above ref latest polling figures IS NOT from Michael.
Those figures, if correct, do underline the need for cooperation between the anti-government parties.
Getting rid of May will achieve absolutely nothing, it means nothing whatsoever. The Conservative Party is institutioally committed to the EU for the simple reason that its corporate sponsors will it to be that way. Even if a so-called Brexiteer is elected leader they will have had to agree to the party sponsors diktats before being made leader.
Only when the Party fears its members more than its sponsors can we ever hope for change in this rabid political party.
Getting rid of her will stop my head screaming and give my throat a rest as I yell at the TV or radio and that will achieve something and I doubt I am alone. I detest her so much. Perhaps we should channel the volume of frustration into the H of C and they might finally get the message as their ear drums burst.
There will of course be no leadership change. The entire Tory party want their over-long Easter and summer holidays to go without a hitch.
Mustn’t disturb them whilst they are basking in Tuscany.
How right you are Keven, Mine wrote to me yesterday in an email, asking if she could stay in touch!
Mine sends out regular emails backing Theresa May and is a Remoaner, despite being in a 68% Leave area. He’s never EVER disobeyed a whip and seldom even turns up to do any work, only for 3 line whipped essential votes. He’s never answered any of the now six letters that I’ve sent either. That’s the problem with a majority in five figures and a sitting MP for 36 years. Yes- 36- Utterly unassailable. Perhaps God will strike him down with a lightning bolt.
He’s only sat for 12 days in the last year, but claimed parking and travel for all the other 12 times he’s travelled to London. during recess !
Go to ‘they work for you’ website. It’ll make you angry.
Whipping is an affront to democracy and needs to be banned. Whipping of the bastards in the physical sense would of course be welcome.
It just occurred to me in this dazzling sunshine. My mother often told me ‘Ne’er cast a clout ’till May is out’. She was right.
For info – Oxford English Dictionary:-
b.II.4.b Applied contemptuously to any article of clothing; in pl. clothes. (Cf. rag.) Still dial. and in proverb.
Old Proverb: Till May be out Ne’er cast a clout.
It is still used frequently in Scotland – dont chuck out your old togs until the Summer comes.
Also clouty dumplings.
And what dazzling sunshine is that?
the corporate sponsors,or if you prefer ” big busines “dont care tuppence about us. They are run by accountants.What fills their hearts with glee is a 3 % increase in sales and 3 % cut in jobs ,and the resulting bonus of millions.. UKIP has no answer. Lib Lab Con has form and can be relied on.
UKIP has nothing, not even a suggestion,. not even guesses. Our economics/ small business spokespersons while being pleasant enough, actually never even said the words, and were just like a Mrs May promise. I don’t even believe they were allowed to write their own speeches, they were that bad.While the independent Health spokesman who knew exactly what he was talking about has disappeared, obviously squashed by the political failed politician wing of ukipWho all just know all about the NHS.
Only a businessmen with world markets, is going to help ukip, and there are thousands of them, are likely to help. But need to be. given the tiniest indication of interest.. ( a plan or suggestions or anything ) except blind political ignorance and destruction.
Even now things could be done.
I despair
I suspect that many of us will never give up whatever it takes and when we win the traitors need to be dealt with in the time-honoured manner. For those wishing to create disruption without the use of lethal weapons here is a source:
https://ultras-europe.com/en/10-smoke-bombs
I’m sure others could be found. Whatever we decide a successful outcome depends on good planning, sufficient numbers and a careful choice of target. Obviously such matters cannot be discussed on a public forum but I hope that such discussions are in progress.
Can comment posters kindly stop talking about armed uprisings and such. Do that in private emails but understand that such talk can lead eventually to this site being closed down by TPTB, thanks to the new GDPR and other Internet Legislation curtailing Free Speech, with my head – not yours! – on the block.
Well said Viv. This kind of talk must stop as it will be used against our struggle to great effect. Just stop publishing this kind of commentary.
Rebels can contact us personally and confidentially, Viv at viv@independencedaily.co.uk and me at debbie@debbielemay.co.uk
The average MP relies on his election committee and activists for his job, His various lobbyers for perk and meals, His party boss for promotion. And Civil Servants to tell him what to do, say, and think…
so party paralysis is Civil servants. They are almost always the problem and there’s half a million of them. Civil servants are not the people who speak to the public ,ever, the people who pay out the benefits police, teachers etc. Those are Public Servants and doing their jobs…..No, The Civil Service, who are the managers, has its own agenda, and the power is in their hands ,
This isn’t from Michael, either.
Latest polling figures…
LAB: 31% (-3)
CON: 29% (-10)
CHUK: 8% (+8)
LDEM: 8% (-4)
UKIP: 7% (+2)
BREX: 6% (+6)
GRN: 4% (-)
Looks like Lab and IllibDumbs have lost support to the CHUcKle party whilst the fake Tories are hemorrhaging voters to Ukip and The Brexit Party.
Good stuff! Also there will be more pressure for a form of PR eg STV with all these smaller terrier parties nipping at the lumbering giants’ heels.
I can’t see any sort of unrest starting here, the days are getting longer and warmer, there is more than enough people with disposable income to spend, the destinations of choice are packed every day, thousands of older people are flocking to the National Trust destinations and the car parks are full of new or nearly new car along with the £80K campervans.
Locally nobody can be bothered to stand for the parish elections and the regional newspaper has a story that U.K.I.P candidates now won’t publish their home address’s because of the threat of threats! ( electoral law was changed to allow this to happen apparently).
Meanwhile a poll of polls shows that between 32% to 35% of voters intend to vote for Labour or Conservative at the next election. May or Corbyn then still seem to have a strong following which is quite a thought given the track record of both of them.
If these two and the ‘honourable members’ reflect a sizeable % of the U.K population, then May is a perfect example of what the country has become over the last two generations, That’s Britain’s ‘soft power and influence ‘ for you. ‘The few’ had better wake up and take note.
On a serious note ‘Meg’ is giving staff concerns about her behaviour again as apparently she sends them texts at 5 a.m telling them what she wants doing for the day. The fact that rubbish like that finds it’s way into the MSM at a time like this goes beyond parody.
Its not only UKIP candidates that have opted not to publish their addresses on their nomination forms. Many newcomers of all parties have opted for this withholing of personal addresses too.
Yes I wonder what they are afraid of?
HI Norman. “32% – 35% intend to vote Tory or Labour.” What about the other 65%?
FYI – the official EU Statement:
https://www.consilium.europa.eu//media/39042/10-euco-art50-conclusions-en.pdf
Get your teeth into it!
I find the last sentence interesting – The European Council will remain seized of the matter …’ – ‘REMAIN’ seized? Sound like an admission that they have always been and will always be in charge of this negotiation.