Why the change to “INDEPENDENCE Daily“, and why change now? Let me explain …
The last weeks have made abundantly clear that we cannot go on as we were if we want to achieve the Brexit we voted for on June 23rd in 2016.
Our elected politicians, from the PM and the Leader of the Opposition to their Party’s MPs, have shown us voters that our opinion doesn’t matter, that their Manifesto commitments in the 2017 GE were hollow lies. The only Party elected to Parliament which has shown spine and determination to stand by their principles is the DUP. The Remain extra-parliamentary forces have meanwhile reigned supreme in the MSM and indeed the courts.
As for the spectacle provided by the establishment Parties: could their contempt for us voters have been more clear than the No-Confidence vote by the Parliamentary Tory Party, where two thirds of May’s MPs supported her while two thirds of Tory Party members don’t! And what about the performance of the Labour Party who still haven’t decided if it’s politically useful to them to hold a no-confidence vote in Parliament so that a GE can be called – a GE which they are hoping to win? Is it not contempt for us voters to use Brexit simply as their political playball?
And what about us Leave voters, us Brexiteers? Yes, we also went home, thinking “job done” – because we still trusted politicians and we did not expect them to sell us out so blatantly.
In the year following the GE 2017 and the ensuing spectacle of another UKIP leader throwing in the towel, leading to an even more frustrating leadership campaign with the known results, out of sheer frustration Brexit splinter groups were formed, new parties were founded. The political active Leave voters, the Brexit activists, were and are divided and, it pains me to say, the ‘Grassroots Out’ coalition was thus conquered by TPTB.
The lure of being present on social media, where ‘a following’ is easier to get than were one to tour the country, has promoted the proliferation of Leave voices – but who hears them? Certainly not the establishment in Westminster! I am reminded of an old slogan from the 1920s used by trade unionists to organise workers: “one finger can be broken – but five fingers are a fist”. There are now many fingers – there are no fists. We cannot allow ourselves to be splintered and broken by the Remain establishment!
Therefore, the editorial team of the former “UKIP Daily” has decided that it’s time to create a platform where all Brexiteers can make themselves heard, regardless of their political affiliation because it’s time to concentrate our efforts on the fight for Brexit. It is time to stop the parochial debates about whom we can talk to and whom to shun. It is nearly past time to come together again.
It is time for INDEPENDENCE Daily!
It is time because Brexit must become the main issue. It is time for all Brexit groups to work together in a non-partisan fashion. We can no longer afford to stay divided into splinter groups to which the mainstream parties and media need not pay attention to, nor can we et ourselves be divided by TPTB inside our respective Parties who believe that we must adhere to the Party line on Brexit.
Independence Daily is the platform for the Brexit grassroots, like an online version of “Grassroots Out”. Independence Daily will offer opinions on current Brexit news and critical views of the Brexit issues debated by the main protagonists. Independence Daily is non-partisan and not affiliated with any Party. Our pages are open to all. We welcome different viewpoints and encourage debate while discouraging proselytising. We believe that the time for Brexit according to Party politics is over. Time is running out. Benjamin Franklin famously said, after having signed the Declaration of Independence:
“We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.”
Anyone who has noticed the armoured vehicles on the streets of Paris last weekend sporting the EU flag, knows that Franklin’s words are not idle. If we don’t achieve Brexit, it will not just be the virtual boots of Brussels on our necks, nor the virtual yoke of the ECJ. The real boots of EUROGENDFOR will stomp in our streets, and they won’t care if you were a member of Labour, the Tories or any other Party fighting for Brexit.
We must stand together! Independence Daily is the place to do so online.
Thank you so much Vivian.
I have been despairing of the direction of Ukip, taking its eye off the main target: which is getting a full Brexit from the EU.
I am still a member of Ukip, and trying to get more activity in my area (Kent). It doesn’t help that the County Chair is not contacting us with any news of branch actions. I long to be involved, but not having contact details of other members, I feel alone in the wilderness. It is disheartening. Gerard Batten should have just stuck to getting Brexit sorted, and then bring in other matters, that the members can then vote on adopting. Instead, he is now distracted by other people, and their agenda is overwhelming our own. The msm are doing their usual trick, of concentrating on this new person, calling him a “Ukip Advisor”, when he is not. Precious airtime is wasted on talking about that subject, when Batten should be all over the farce of “this deal that is not a withdrawal from the EU”. It binds us ever tighter into their organisations. Something that is illegal by our Parliamentary standards. One Government can not legally bind the hands of a future Government.
I do wish there was not all this ego in-fighting for seniority. They all need to put our country first. Europe is counting on us, to fight and get our freedom. They won’t achieve theirs, if we are stupid enough to fail.
Treasonous May has signed away our rights to so much. She signed the EU Immigrants Treaty, now she secretly signed the UN’s “make illegal immigration a human-right Treaty”. Destroying our free speech in the process, thereby we can’t even mention “immigration” without it being called a hate-crime: even if just perceived as such by a third person. Common sense no longer rules the day.
Too many splint groups, with no real power at all. We must united behind Ukip. But Gerard Batten needs to concentrate just on getting Brexit. He has wandered off with the ball. Bring it back, and fight for the next three months, to get us out with W.T.O. rules.
Entirely in agreement, we need to harness a full united front to get out of this dictatorship once and for all. At the referendum locally UKIP, worked with all leave organisations, we must regroup across the country now and be united in the leave cause.
With regard to a second referendum we must make sure it never happens, this is an unprecedented action and a criminal attack on the democracy of our country and our people whether they voted leave or remain. We must highlight this as a crime against the British people, those with legal knowledge must be ready to challenge this criminality should it occur.
We have a clear result leave and it must stand. Government criminals are now interfering with the democratic voting process, in effect metaphorically stealing the referendum ballot boxes to try and fix a different outcome.
These are the tactics of EU Quislings that we have seen before in Europe, we must not be naive and believe that if leave once again get the majority of votes leave will win. If we can be criminally betrayed by calling a second referendum, they will stop at nothing to get the result they require.
The rest of the world must be looking on and wondering what has happened to our democracy, our gravitas and world standing, I certainly am, it looks like our independence and freedoms will destroyed by third rate political figures who are little more than enemy agents.
What has happened to our democracy ?…Firstly it’s supposed to be a representative democracy. Now betrayed by parachuting candidates etc… Secondly betrayal of Manifesto. Make it legally binding ,or a trust , or breach of promise. and on and on. Never ever trust anyone with political aspirations unless he promises those some such. This is important to shut up the ill considered PR hopefuls ( Or is it AV ?.. Both daft ).
Well Viv, I have to say, this isn’t what I was expecting after the hugely successful ‘Brexit Betrayal’ rally of December 9th. There, Gerard Batten and UKIP spokesmen addressed an enthusiastic, varied crowd, much larger than the attendances at the six Leave means Leave rallies etc. all added together. The well-received speeches provided a much-needed, sense of celebration, direction, hope and leadership.
However, I would like to salute, and say thanks to, the UKIP Daily team for voluntarily providing such a great, UKIP oriented, well-controlled, news and discussion platform for so long. If that excellent team have decided that a change of direction is appropriate then who am I to argue?
But, if I may say so, I think the reasoning behind the change is misguided. It appears to be based on the idea that a ‘wide, non-partisan alliance’ of Brexiteers will come together to ‘concentrate our efforts on the fight for Brexit’. Sounds good in theory; but, from experience, not so good in practice.
So far, the efforts of the various Brexit groups and alliances have been ineffective. Leave means Leave, and Leave.EU etc. have been disappointing. Nigel Farage’s ‘return to the front line’ has proved rather a damp squib. The Brexit Tories have had very limited substantive impact.
In addition, they all managed to put their Brexit support and solidarity credentials firmly to one side in order to display and indulge their anti-UKIP prejudices, not only by refusing to publicise and endorse the Brexit Betrayal march, but by actively trying to sabotage it. Fortunately, many of their supporters ignored their leadership.
It was the same during the EU referendum. Vote Leave was deservedly mistrusted. None of the ‘alliances’ had a nationwide organisation. It was UKIP that delivered out on the streets.
In my opinion, the fulcrum for Brexit has to be a political party. In the end it’s votes that are the key. And UKIP is the one and only substantive, committed Brexit party. If there are European elections due to an extending of Article 50, or indeed a General Election, none of the pressure groups or alliances will be on the ballot paper. The name on the ballot paper will be UKIP. And that’s where I believe our main efforts should be focused and concentrated.
Meanwhile, I wish Independence Daily continued support and success.
Good decision Viv.
Like so many, I didn’t so much leave UKIP as felt that the UKIP I had supported and been an active member of for a decade had left me. The party which had stood for true independence and full liberation from the EU has totally lost its way, dominated by round after round of incredulous political infighting, mass resignations and now having reached a point where party related press coverage is dominated by Robinson, Batten and Islam rather than where it should have been – Brexit.
Your change to Independence Daily reflects the fact that the vast majority want to concentrate solely on achieving a proper Brexit and not to allow those with additional or alternative agendas to blur the lines or create unnecessary distractions. I therefore heavily applaud your renaming decision and the reasoning behind it, to focus on Brexit, as being sensible, fundamentally correct and sound. Well done.
This was a reply I posted to a link Flyer made below, I apologise for the nonsequitur, but please read on and I hope you will forgive me.
“Flyer thank you for posting that link, I thought the Mogg speech was fine mildly enthusing, I`m afraid he`s more of a debater than an orator.
But I thank you for the lead to the You Tube Rally at which the Mogg was speaking and noted there were others in the panel including my personal favourite Kate Hoey.
But of course the real Orator came on towards the end NIGEL, there ha was in full fig, blasting away about the unelected Gangsters of the EU “daring” to insult our Prime Minister and in turn the, but whether Nation, not defending chief BETRAYER Magpie May, but whether he applied the term NEBULOUS to either or both is immaterial – that is a summation of our whole Clause 50 application in the eyes of this bunch of bullies. It has taken Nigel`s return to lead the battle against the conspiracy that are trying to STEAL Brexit A conspiracy that I term in my posting (here) The Worshipful Company of WRECKERS.
They must be defeated and Nigel must be the one to do it.
I`ve no idea if it was Viv`s intention to direct us to the Cross Party aspect of rescuing Brexit, but whether she has or not I`m not leaving UKIP, but I am advocating that UKIP members and areas support this group on the ground in the campaign that Nigel is now calling for.
I think it is pretty clear there will be another referendum and it is up to all of us to put past animosities aside and support LEAVE means LEAVE.
I hope nobody minds or thinks I am presumptuous, but I didn`t intend to make such a long comment when I started and being well down the list, I don`t think many will read it, so I am going to copy it and post it as my “own” comment I believe it is important that we make immediate movements to get this cross party link up to this group LEAVE means LEAVE, I know Nigel`s a naughty boy, but he is right this time and we can win if he is supported.”
Surely, you are a little confused? LEAVE means LEAVE should be linking up with UKIP but has shown absolutely NO intention or inclination to do so and for this the blame must be laid fairly and squarely at the door of our former hero, Nigel Farage. At no time in any of the LEAVE means LEAVE events has UKIP been mentioned, supported or even alluded to and this is without doubt because Nigel seems to be waging a personal vendetta against our present excellent Leader, Gerard Batten. Not only has his malice been directed at Gerard but by association at UKIP ITSELF, an unforgivable sin at this uniquely critical time in the history of this nation when ALL GENUINE Brexiteers should unify and support each other in a show of solidarity and strength, putting aside petty grievances, misguided sanctimony, moralising and conflicts of ego and personality. LEAVE means LEAVE will have no material impact on the intransigence of our corrupt Government, exciting though their rallies might be; only a political force such as UKIP can effect change.
And with regard to being ‘on the ground’, thousands of Kippers marched on Sunday 9th December in London (I was proud to be amongst them) in a civilised and potent demonstration against the betrayal of the people; where were you?
We undoubtedly owe Nigel a great debt for being so instrumental in bringing about the Referendum; there is no doubt that he is a charismatic and skilful orator, but Gerard Batten also played a hugely important role in bringing this about behind the scenes and is an unsung hero.
If it were not for Gerard, THERE WOULD BE NO UKIP and on that note, WHERE was Nigel when our Party was on the verge of extinction? Nowhere to be seen. It could be argued that his endorsement of the utterly toxic Henry Bolton was the catalyst for the near annihilation of our Party. His recent behaviour has not been ‘naughty’ as you so coyly put it, but utterly unconscionable, disgraceful, pernicious and disloyal. I would never vote for Nigel again on this basis alone.
In spite of virtue signalling by ‘head in the sand’ resignations, membership under Gerard is on the rise and he is leading us in a bold new direction and giving us a voice which has been denied us hitherto because of politically correct cowardice.
So, stop moaning, get behind your Party and get out there and fight like hell for the clean Brexit we voted for.!
Barbara Jell
II like your style Barbara and you probably state the issues and in and outs of the personal relationships between Nigel and UKIP and Nigel and Gerard correctly and I agree Gerard has done a brilliant job in rescuing UKIP and I don`t completely criticise the methods he has employed. – all too often one hears moaning about the firemen`s methods after they have put out the fire and probably saved lives – there`s no satisfying some folk.
I`ll limit my further comments here, as I am off out to play Golf.
Sufficient to say we are talking Real Politik, we have arrived at a dangerous moment, perhaps not realised till too late. It was when Cameron realised he had to honour his election promise and had to grant a referendum. Even if May is the only one aware of it, I think the tide of events are going to overwhelm her and she too will eventually have to cede the fateful course.
The necessity to put aside all “previous” and bury the hatchet FOR THE GOOD OF THE NATION should be apparent to the dumbest of voters.
Before it is too late to get properly organised (as we obviously were in the first referendum) lets just GET ON WITH IT, the time for acrimony is long past.
So there!
Congratulations Viv – I think you have taken exactly the right decision and needless to say, I concur with your comments in the article. It’s incredibly frustrating that at a time when the duplicity of the establishment is absolutely transparent to see, the Tories apparently of the opinion that Calamity May is NOT fit to lead them into an election and yet totally OK to allegedly lead this country out of the EU and HMG being on the verge of collapse, UKIP, because of their own hubris, selfishness and stupidity are practically nowhere to be seen from the electorate’s point of view. Your new publication will hopefully be a unifying force for all Brexiteers. Keep up the good work…
Hear, hear!
Thanks so much for all the good work you have done in the past. Ukip Daily was a good read and a useful forum. I’ll miss it. Good luck with your new venture. (I will be sticking with Ukip)
Thank you – but let me make one point very clear:
we’ve not abandoned UKIP. I haven’t left the Party. But, at this precarious time, we think that we need a wide alliance if we are serious about Brexit. If that means that UKIP has to take a backseat, then so be it. Perception is important and in political life it is everything. It’s not helpful to insist on political ‘purity’ when one might end up in an echo chamber while events change life outside and one is helpless to resist because one hasn’t looked for and/or rejected potential allies.
Well, congratulations on the change, it’s your thing that you put your own time and money into so totally up to you what you do with it. Big loss for UKIP. You probably need to purge all the old articles if you really want to make this acceptable to Brexiteers of all stripes! I doubt I’ll be commenting much any more but wish you all well and thanks for the fellowship over the years.
No, nothing will be ‘purged’ – we’re not in Stalinist Russia, re-writing history. It just seems odd that what was acceptable during the Referendum campaign – the wide, non-partisan alliance – should now be regarded with mistrust when achieving Brexit is in such dire straits and every ally is needed.
Dear Vivian,
This is a big move,potentially world shaking.
I am taking my time through all its ramifications, as indeed you must have done.
First, the background. The effect on Britain and its voting and governing and directing classes. Second the West including EU nations, third the rest of the world including the pacific rim and Asian states states. And finally the EU.
It seems ridiculous. But if not, we often fail to understand the effects on the world of Great Britain. And the insignificant amount of time we mistakenly gave away influence to the EU. ( for all the best if misguided reasons ) And which they want to usurp with no exceptions. Because it will give Power.
First look at the seats on boards of world bodies. Second look at the apeing of our democracy, but designed for dictatorship by a Bureaucrat. The world watches USA., Us, Germany and France, and now China, But above all , us….After all , we gave the world more than our badly taught and ignorant children or lecturers can conceive. The entire world without exception admires one thing or another of Great Britain ( Even if you now call it UK. ) If you don’t believe look at the posts here during the last few days, describing the EU program for Britain after we are reconquered.( Incidentally this needs further developement after vetting of course )
I am sure that this action must have significance.! Good or bad ? I’ve no idea on cursory examination. I’m pretty certain it’s good…. UKIP Seems to have conclusively failed….Although it has managed to keep the dream alive…By luck.
I have reacheda decision. unimportant though I am, My thought processes may be of interest, though a mystery to me
Yes it is a top grade choice you’ve made, and the ramifications, such as forming an umbrella, Introducing more developed ideas,, allowing freedom to spread of more grown up ideas and concepts, gingering up UKIP etc. must be advantageous.
On the other hand it should stimulate UKIP iself to grow up and become effective..
And finally it gives a new and as yet unlabelled voice for a while at least, and a newspaper focus for protest and the “unspeakable “.
However remember UKIP still is the only route ( However ineffectual, pathetic and hidebound ) for real power on the ground and truly needs help.
Good luck. Let’s hope all Brexiteers read, follow and most importantly, get together.
Will anybody who hasn’t already done so, please sign this petition -“Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019”:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963
As somebody on Guido Fawkes said, it might have been better for
the petition to be titled “Leave the EU under WTO terms in March 2019” as that would have looked more positive but, nevertheless, it’s attracting plenty of signatures (94,026 at time of posting).
Thank you for that link, duly signed!
The Government’s ‘response’ is wholly typical, lots of use of the word “will” and “once we have left” in its wording, but this will be an ongoing process with no definite conclusion, certainly we will not have left the EU come March next year.
Signed.
Signed, at time of posting in early hours 16/12/18 numbers over 124,400.
Duly signed and 120000 plus this morning
There is this petition:
Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963
Just to say I am happy being a UKIP member and also happy with the path Gerard Batten is taking what a shame the less stalward members stepped away. However – Onwards and Upwards!
It occurred to me some time ago that all those in favour of Brexit should pool resources and join as one voice, under one umbrella. Perhaps this should have been done before but better late than never.
Saying that how do we combine and speak as one? Who is the ultumate voice?
Last Sunday at the Brexit Betrayal march and rally, there were a few people handing out For Britain leaflets. I overheard one offering a leaflet to someone I presume was already a UKIP member, I just heard the response “oh well, perhaps we might get you to change your mind?”
To which I politely pointed out that while I was also a UKIP member myself, I didn’t have a problem with people from ‘other parties’ when we could ally together where we have ‘common ground’, in this case, namely the subject of Brexit.
If the Establishment is colluding amongst themselves to stop Brexit, it is equally important for the ‘anti-Establishment’ parties to put aside their differences and work together to achieve their common goals.
I don’t think we need one ‘ultimate voice’, we are not sheep after all, unlike those on the left, we have our own mind, but it would be helpful if Gerard Batten, as well as Anne-Marie Waters etc, would agree to work together on certain shared matters.
In the current context, what does the topic ‘Branches’ mean? I note that filed under it is a report of a ‘Leave means Leave’ meeting which I would have thought belonged under Brexit. I also note that UKIP posts such as our leader’s recent post are also there. Surely the heading should be ‘UKIP’?
Congratulations on your first edition of ‘Independence Daily’.
I hope the existing Ukip readers and contributors will welcome postings from none Ukip Brexiteers from whatever party, or none, without rancour.
We all have the same destination in sight.
There is a number of pro Brexit organisations, and although I do receive bulletins from many, wish there could be one large unified force; some of these do have different target audiences, and may be beneficial in that regard.
I wish you God Speed in your endevours,
Kind regards,
Robert Johnson.
A video with a very provocative title, but very interesting.
“Why the West Must End Democracy”
https://youtu.be/a4Q0EnVwDHE
Take out the ethnic angle and I’m on board with this video. Tribalism – the subject of this page’s article – is one of the deep facts of history and society. I’m struck this week by these various bannings and blockings in social media – those who disagree with the hard left tribe are to be absolutely destroyed, B.A.M.N. One victory isn’t enough, it’s to the death. And we see the rancour between the Brexit tribelets. How to outwit our tribalism? Because it’s surely not possible to overcome it. and to embrace it? No thanks.
Disturbing but very accurate assessment – Recommended listening
Congrats Viv (and Deb)! Yes, I can assure you that EU armored THING in the Paris street was noted on this side of the pond. I’ll leave it there. Just want to leave greetings of good cheer and optimism. You all do understand, I hope, that what is happening in France would never have started if not for the work you’ve already done. The war is not yet won, I know, but at least it is now understood that war it is. Carry on.
I understand that military integration with the EU is still being pursued apace by “our” government (referred to in an article I wrote some time ago for UKD). Of course this is all being done on the quiet presumably with the intent of presenting us with a fait accompli which “cannot be reversed”.
Given that government might well use all means available to keep us tied to the EU we need to consider our position should one of those “THINGS” appear on our streets. In my view any such event should be considered an invasion and treated as such. Of course that requires extensive preparation and a willingness to break the law.
Nevertheless we should all consider the possibility.
One of my sergeants used to say ” everything has holes in it “
A splendid and magnanimous initiative Viv. Full marks. It is super to have a cross group platform like Idependence Daily. However, it is also ACTION we need or as others say here our 2016 victory will be submerged by quislings and traitors.
The Maybot has driven a scythed chariot through our constitution and democracy and is clearly intent on forcing through her complete capitulation WA through foul means ( see Dellingpole on Breitbart). If we do not act in the New Year, we could find our political system dismantled. In the 17 century, it was a battle of Parliament versus the Crown. Now it is Parliament versus the people.
May I respectfully suggest that it might come to a march on Buck House to petition the Queen to dissolve Parliament until April next when a GE should be called. If we could peacefully fill the Mall, then ask Her Majesty to meet a small delegation to hear our grievances, it might just persuade her to act. No harm in trying. This would be a peaceful method to avoid much worse.
– ” The citizen who sees his society’s democratic clothes being worn out and does not cry out, is not a patriot but a traitor.”- Mark Twain.
Re petition to the Queen; I wish you best of luck! In the run up to Lisbon Treaty I helped distribute to the electorate the “Purple Postcard” petition for them to sign and send to the Queen; she received thousands upon thousands of purple petition postcards asking her not to sign Lisbon. These put in a nutshell some of the consequences of Lisbon on her own position and on our civil liberties. These were ignored. Much as I expected but it was an eye catching convenient way of alerting the public to some of the dangers.
I remember the purple post card Mary – It was after that I stopped being a Royalist
With that in mind, I’ll post this video.
“Jacob Rees-Mogg just gave an OUTSTANDING Speech on Brexit, Gets a Standing Ovation”
https://youtu.be/A-WkQsVMM-g
Sadly it became clear over a year ago that I could not in conscience follow where Ukip was going. I joined the party mainly to push for and later to fight the referendum. I left and my branch closed. I now sit in opposition on my strongly Tory District Council as an Independent and at the same time chair my Parish Council. which consumes much time, we are large, with 27,000 residents. I’ve given up on national politics, there is no one I could vote for anyway, I do as much as I can for my town and continue to push for the proper Brexit, which I believe now means No Deal and WTO terms.
It’s good to see a new cross party forum so please concentrate on just Brexit. We can all look at other suff once we’ve actually achieved that priority , it looks to me that so far we only won a battle, not a war. The enemy has regrouped and is counter attacking with their new campaign being to get a second referendum, which they expect to win. The only way we can escape is to unite all the pro Brexit fractions. Let’s hope that Viv and her team can help to do that. I wish you luck guys.
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Independence Daily, it sounds, right! I mean correct!
With the retention of the UD archives and an experienced team the new site is solid in many ways. But one of the most important gains in my opinion is that it will bring together people who have been arguing unnecessarily.
Hang up the tribalism and focus on the real enemies of the country. This, as many may have considered, is the beginnings of a proper Movement. I hope Independence Daily can be a voice, a resource, a debating platform, and a source of information for such.
Ideas and words can be put into action on the battle field by the different factions, but we will know where the commonality and sharing will be from.
Well said, Kim! I concur.
Reply to referendum rerunners.
80% of the MPs manifestos promised to respect the result .
Whats the point of another referendum if the result is ignored by liars in Parliament .
I am very pleased with this new development especially as I haven’t renewed my UKIP membership of many years, disillusioned with the direction they have been taking just lately.
It’s been a while since I’ve commented here, partly due to some discomfort with the road on which UKIP has been headed lately, but this site’s reincarnation has neatly segued this. I applaud the well-thought out work of the editorial team.
However, there might be a missed opportunity here. Whilst Independence Daily is strictly non-partisan, surely it must be on the subject of Brexit.
Given that the ‘Leave means Leave’ movement is also apolitical, could this site not be affiliated to ‘Leave means Leave’. Strength in numbers, better together etc.
It’s not about UKIP versus ‘Leave Means Leave’ versus anyone else.
It’s all about uniting behind the biggest Brexit initiative, and that happens to be ‘Leave means Leave’; that is the way it is. With Farage, JRM and the highest profile politicians and influencers around, it has no peer.
Let’s not make any apologies for taking this route if we have to. We, of course, remember the past but we are where we are. We are now at battle stations. We need to be pragmatic, and do what’s best in the circumstances. ‘Divide and conquer’, after all, is what the MSM and Establishment want us to do.
Let’s not give them the pleasure.
*Quick Correction* ‘Divided and we fall’ is, rather, what the MSM and Establishment would rather happen to us.
I see – so presumably the Editorial oard are going to Leave UKIP and join the new faragiste ‘party’ – that really does keep Brexiteers together doesn’t it by creating yet another faction.
Your presumption is wrong. Utterly wrong. I’ll leave it at that.
It won’t Farage long to destroy any party he joins. If he leads leave in another referendum that campaign will be fatally divided from the start.
Spot on Suthringa! Nicely put!
I am not happy.
You stayed with UKIP while Farage was a member and dumped us when you had built up your web base on the back of the UKIP brand.
Shamefully synical .
Disappointed
I suggest UKIP members dump such disloyalty.
One of the biggest problems The Real British People have is this continual ,”Party before Country” mentality ….This tribalism is precisely why we are in the predicament we are today…..Of course it does not help that the majority of our Right Honourables and Honourables are Liars ,Cheats and Traitors, hell bent on lining their own pockets.
Excellent Viv, hopefully you can bring the focus that we need to defeat May, the establishment and, of course, the EU.
Well said Viv.
“Divide and conquer” has indeed been applied by TPTB, the MSM and the entire ‘liberal’ twitterati. And here we are with UKIP, For Britain, Leave EU, and a dozen other groups the only ones who care that Brexit has been hijacked by treasonous, establishment, deep-state operators. Frankly, at this point, we have lamentably failed.
The only solace I take is from James Delingpole’s voice in a recent Breitbart article where he said that whatever they do, however they try to betray us, it will only build up resentment against the UK TPTB and the EU… but it will take time, witness events behind the Iron Curtain during the Cold War:Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1967-8, Solidarity in Poland in 1980/1 and finally the Berlin Wall coming down and the revolution in Romania in 1989 leading to the whole rotten pack of cards falling in 1990… the EU will go the same way.. and we have to expect the same kind of timescale too, and foreign tanks on our streets.
Well done Viv on making a brave decision, and well done on a good execution.
Nice work, but two things I have spotted:
1) the Favicon is still the UKIP logo
2) the copyright text in the footer still reads UKIP Daily
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Thanks Stu. As with all such projects we have a few teething problems, but not many, I hope. Please continue to point out anything further that needs our attention.
This is an excellent initiative Viv.
I saw the video of the armoured vehicles with the EU flag. It is a chilling direction that the EU is going in. And chilling too that our own armed forces are joining in with this military unification. It has already started.
I do envisage that the UK will at some point in the future have to rescue Europe from its own stupidity. Again. History does not exactly repeat, but it does rhyme:
WW2
WW1
Napoleonic
etc.
As in a de-pressurised aeroplane, you have to put on your own oxygen mask first before you can help those next to you – we are obliged to look after the UK first and foremost. We can help nobody else until our own safety is secured first.
Brexit has to be the top priority right now. Regular readers will know that I do go on about other things too! However we must be completely focused on Brexit at this critical time, and pick up the other stuff later.
Warm regards, Viv, for your sterling work over the years and having brought this opinion centre to a great new name which reflects what the real approach should be.
It makes me very angry that the worst of our politcal establishment have simply taken over the wonderful victory we won over two years ago and squandered the time on panderinng to the very oligarchy we wished to escape from. These people are themselves puppets of the oligopoly who finance them and the entire MSM – including the ever-dreadful BBC.
The critical mover against all this is in the US right now. It is another enormous fight in itself.But in Europe and the UK, eyes are beginning to open.
The need to educate these are more important than the sideshows we witness from the Merkels, Macrons and Mays.
If we had decent leadership, Britain as a whole would be £2TN better off by trading with the rest of the world – this whilst keeping our EU business where the deficit lies with them.
But politicians are not businessmen – I sometimes wonder if they are human beings !!!
Good luck Independence Daily
ShrodersBaby,
Last time I read your notes was at Guido’s. Like me you probably decided he had sold out and given up on that blog.
Think you started another blog with similar minded people – Y/no?
Good to see you are still active.
Hi Biscotte
Good to see you.
I was unceremoniously dumped by Paul Staines from Guido Fawkes on 19 January 2016, after having contributed both comments and money to his schemes, where I thought them worthwhile. This was alongside 19 others.
Another person who was dumped, set up a new site with me. He did the admin and I did the writing. I embarked on a series of 33 weekly articles explaining Brexit – these seemed to be very popular and, from what I understood, we had ⅓m page views altogether.
When this was complete and the vote was won for Leave, this person then did exactly the same as Staines and threw me off the site. It seemed he wanted to pocket the proceeds – even though I had never asked for any share of them. To this day, I cannot post to either forum, not that I wish to any more.
I am used to the fact that, if one attempts to post good stuff which is well researched and factual, then people will hate one for that very reason. It is probably a form of jealousy, according to many, something I just cannot fathom.
A good decision, Viv. It’s time to spread the ideas of liberty, independence, and Brexit as far and as wide as possible.
Well Done and well said, enough this week I would have thought to wake up waverers and consolidate the actions of true leavers.
Agree with both comments above, this is a good idea to unite all Brexiteers.