Dr John Lee, a former professor of pathology and NHS consultant pathologist, has written another of his excellent articles for the Speccie. It is sadly paywalled, so by giving the article our ‘From Behind the Paywall’ treatment his arguments and assessment might reach a wider public.
The title of his article – “The way ‘Covid deaths’ are being counted is a national scandal” might indicate that this is yet another review of what the NHS, ONS and government have messed up. This mess is actually worse, as the subtitle explains: “We have no idea how many lives have really been lost to the disease”
Dr Lee starts with describing what pathologists do and why their role in medicine is so important:
“As a pathologist, I’m used to people thinking that my job mainly involves dealing with death. But nothing could be further from the truth. That is why I and many of my colleagues are so dismayed by changes introduced during the coronavirus epidemic which mean that pathology has not been able to play the role that it should have in helping to understand this new disease. […] There is my own speciality of histopathology, or cellular pathology. We are experts in analysing changes in the fabric of our bodies that result from disease. […] Every time a biopsy or surgical sample is taken, it comes to the histopathology lab to be examined. Histopathology is often regarded as a ‘gold standard’ for diagnosis of diseases that change tissue structure. A clinical examination or X-ray may suggest that a tumour or fibrosis of the lung, say, is present, but you need to examine a tissue sample microscopically to be sure that it’s really there, what type it is, and how advanced. Tissue can also be examined genetically to look for the presence of infectious agents or cellular receptors that may determine how deadly it is.” (paywalled link)
Dr Lee describes next why autopsies are important:
“Autopsy — auto opsis — literally means seeing for oneself. And the person doing the seeing should be clear-eyed — an independent specialist medical practitioner, with no emotional or professional vested interest in what happened to the patient. Autopsy studies typically show major discrepancies between actual findings and clinical diagnosis in a quarter to a third of cases. And in about a sixth of the cases, knowing about these hidden pathologies in life could have made differences to treatment that might have prevented death. In the UK in recent decades about one in six deaths have had an autopsy examination — a deceased person’s last gift to the living.
The results contribute to maintaining and improving care, verifying and upholding the standards of public health statistics, preventing diagnostic drift, and basically keeping medicine honest. And nowhere are autopsy studies more important than in the study of new diseases and new treatments.” (paywalled link)
And then Dr Lee comes to the crux of the matter -this is important to understand why the way in which CV-19 deaths are counted is a national scandal:
“Looking at the current crisis, the response so far has been very different. We are still struggling to understand coronavirus. I can think of no time in my medical career when it has been more important to have accurate diagnosis of a disease, and understanding of precisely why patients have died of it. Yet very early on in the epidemic, rules surrounding death certification were changed — in ways that make the statistics unreliable. Guidance was issued which tends to reduce, rather than increase, referrals for autopsy.” (paywalled link)
Doesn’t that look as if somehow actual, medically important facts about CV-19 should not ‘come out’, should not be investigated? Next:
“Normally, two doctors are needed to certify a death, one of whom has been treating the patient or who knows them and has seen them recently. That has changed. For Covid-19 only, the certification can be made by a single doctor, and there is no requirement for them to have examined, or even met, the patient. A video-link consultation in the four weeks prior to death is now felt to be sufficient for death to be attributed to Covid-19. For deaths in care homes the situation is even more extraordinary. Care home providers, most of whom are not medically trained, may make a statement to the effect that a patient has died of Covid-19. In the words of the Office for National Statistics, this ‘may or may not correspond to a medical diagnosis or test result, or be reflected in the death certification’.” (paywalled link)
We’ve talked about this, about the difference of ascertaining if someone died ‘of’ or ‘with’ the virus, and why this difference must surely have an impact on all those ‘death toll’ numbers, on the Lockdown, the statistics influencing the government’s decisions. Dr Lee explains the way this scandal came about:
“From 29 March the numbers of ‘Covid deaths’ have included all cases where Covid-19 was simply mentioned on the death certificate — irrespective of positive testing and whether or not it may have been incidental to, or directly responsible for, death. From 29 April the numbers include the care home cases simply considered likely to be Covid-19.
So at a time when accurate death statistics are more important than ever, the rules have been changed in ways that make them less reliable than ever. In what proportion of Covid-19 ‘mentions’ was the disease actually present? And in how many cases, if actually present, was Covid-19 responsible for death? Despite what you may have understood from the daily briefings, the shocking truth is that we just don’t know. How many of the excess deaths during the epidemic are due to Covid-19, and how many are due to our societal responses of healthcare reorganisation, lockdown and social distancing? Again, we don’t know. Despite claims that they’re all due to Covid-19, there’s strong evidence that many, perhaps even a majority, are the result of our responses rather than the disease itself.” (paywalled link)
If you think this is already sufficiently scandalous, there’s even more:
“It might have been possible to check these proportions by examining the deceased. But at a time when autopsies could have played a major role in helping us understanding this disease, advice was given which made such examinations less likely than might otherwise have been the case. The Chief Coroner issued guidance on 26 March which seemed designed to keep Covid-19 cases out of the coronial system: ‘The aim of the system should be that every death from Covid-19 which does not in law require referral to the coroner should be dealt with via the [death certification] process.’ And even guidance produced by the Royal College of Pathologists in February stated: ‘In general, if a death is believed to be due to confirmed Covid-19 infection, there is unlikely to be any need for a post-mortem examination to be conducted and the Medical Certificate of Cause of Death should be issued.’ (paywalled link)
Isn’t it as if those regulatory bodies who ought to have been most eager to examine this new virus, to find out how it works, blanketed any investigation by giving ‘guidance’ that somehow autopsies weren’t necessary in this pandemic. Why? Didn’t it matter? Dr Lee says next why it did and does:
“We need proper information to inform our responses to the virus, both clinical and societal. Instead, we have no idea how many of the deaths attributed to Covid-19 really were due to the disease. And we have no idea how many of the excess deaths were really due to Covid-19 or to the effects of lockdown. Officials should be releasing, as a matter of urgency, detailed information on the surge in deaths, both apparent Covid and non-Covid — particularly in care homes. How many are dying of Covid acquired in hospitals? Data presumably exists on this too, but is not released.” (paywalled link)
Ah – I can answer that one: it’s because of ‘patient confidentiality’ – something the government blithely disregards when it comes to their fabled ‘test-and-track’ app! Dr Lees’ concluding remarks emphasise why this is a national scandal
“The first rule in a pandemic should be to ensure transparency of information. Without it, errors can go undiscovered — and lives can be lost. We will never be able to find out for sure what this disease was like, or what it did in the early stages of the crisis.
One of the unappreciated tragedies of this epidemic so far is the huge lost opportunity to understand Covid-19 better. We like to beat ourselves up for having the worst Covid death toll in Europe — but we will never know, because we decided not to count properly. In a country that has always prided itself on the quality of its facts and figures, the missing Covid-19 data is a national scandal.” (paywalled link)
It is indeed a national scandal – even more so because these vital questions are being given scant regard in ‘Our MSM’. It is even more a national scandal because government seems to have been relying solely on the predictions and models of all those SAGE ‘experts’ without asking for any medical proof for these predictions which autopsies ought to have provided.
The greatest scandal is that all those medical governing bodies have thrown away vital opportunities to research CV-19 – as if it’s ok to accept all research that comes out of China, without the need for any independent research here in the UK.
And our ‘speaking truth to power’, scrutineering MSM …. remain silent.
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Like Phil, I too have been following Dr Seheult on MedCram. His presentations are excellent and properly balanced.
For whatever reason, fear of infection from the corpse maybe, we have not carried out autopsies and missed chances to learn more about this new virus and its effect on our bodies. Thank goodness other nations have been diligent, from their studies it is clear now that we are dealing with a virus which is most definitely not ‘just flu’ and can cause serious effects on the functioning of our blood vessels
“Doesn’t that look as if somehow actual, medically important facts about CV-19 should not ‘come out’, should not be investigated?”
The facts are out. Being generous, the new regime prevents confirmation. In the worst case, too many vested interests don’t want exposure.
Track and Trace, and the difference between Covid-19 and “from/with coronavirus”:
http://www.frombehindenemylines.org.uk/2020/05/track-and-trace-and-the-difference-between-covid-19-and-from-with-coronavirus/
Thanks for posting this Vivian, and Dr. John Lee for making the point that even I thought about in the early days of this pandemic in our country ! – Quite simply, the detailed analysis of this virus has been lost, and Pathology has been unable to do its job. – Now I have no medical knowledge but even so, it seemed to me that the short cut with Death Certificates, would probably note Covid-19 upon far too many of them, and therefore our National death total is akin to ‘think of a number and double it’ ! – None of this data is in any way reliable, and brings in a big question. …..
Since everything has a political hook to it, why did the ‘experts’ not see this from the start ? – Why did PM Johnson and his Government team, not see the political danger, by courting a wildly excessive figure for death by Covid-19 ? – Without the true facts, all that happened was giving the MSM a fear story, which they will milk long and hard, as bad news sells Newspapers ! – But oh dear Boris, where was your political mind in all of this ? – You don’t win a medal by having the largest National number of deaths ! – I would have expected just the opposite from a politico, with a clear danger of numbers being minimised, for Party advantage !
Mike Maunder……”Where was your political mind in all this………” You ask.
Boris historically is one of the most callous, selfish, self centred people in the country – and his mind was only focused on …….Boris, Boris, Boris.
and then? Boris again.
No one should expect him to empathise, sympathise or be in ANY way able, or willing to put himself into the feelings of the British public – he is simply not ABLE to.
He will last as PM just as long as the country, and his Party stand for his bulls*it.
Pause for a moment and try and picture what he has actually changed or achieved since being in politics. NOTHING.
I note he is a graduate of ‘Classical History’ or some such fairly useless pursuit…………what he urgently needs to do is to get someone in his entourage, because he us incapable of doing so himself, is to study recent history and, apart from his own selfish future, start acting as a Diplomat, at which he has failed MISERABLY in the fairly recent past and look at OUR problems TODAY and not some ancient, irrelevant part of Greek, Roman or other historical period or event.
Bumbling, Billy Bunter Boris is the worst person to lead thus country during this dreadful crisis………..and what OUR POLITICS urgently needs is the likes of an Iain Duncan Smith who for decades has proven his worth and ability ‘in spades’ as a politician.
The sooner Boris is removed and a serious politician put in his place the sooner this country will get back on its feet, both domestically and internationally. Meanwhile we will simply bungle along, with Bori, when he sees fit, flitting in and out of the picture with this inane, incoherent bulls*it. as for the new Chancellor being in the race to succeed him………..EVEN I AM SPEECHLESS!
Thanks Viv.
Presumably some of this scandal is down to Handcock. That idiot (or worse) in charge of our Health. Some is due to all the overpaid, worse than useless Administrators in the NHS. The coroners – who administers them? Let’s face it, most decisions are made by civil servants of one breed or another.
This article makes it CLEAR that those who genuinely COULD have shed light have been systematically gagged.
And we thought only the Chinese Communist Party did that sort of thing!
Thanks for this Viv. Very interesting. No wonder tin foil hatters refer to it as a scamdemic. Better a tin foil hat than a mask.
Can’t say too much here, but it’s nothing special, really…but the ONS cannot be blamed for sending out unreliable graphs and totals, when they have already been fed unreliable data by the health departments. They can only work with what they are given. It is known internally that there have been quite a lot of complaints fed up the line to the Health Minister and that other related statistical sectors have also made their views clear. I would respectfully suggest therefore that it is the NHS and government that has “messed up”….if you feed garbage to the ONS in terms of data and expect them to process it in any meaningful way, then you will get garbage out.
That is why I find the Medcram.com Covid-19 diary of Dr Roger Seheult so absorbing and enlightening. He has been following developments from the start (up to No.75 now), evolving his hypotheses in real time as new data become available.
In No.75 he presents some of the very histopathology that Dr Lee was referring to; a wafer of lung clearly showing the small airways clogged with mini-thromboses, effectively throttling the patient no matter how much oxygen might be pumped in. And he has a clearly developed hypothesis as to why this happens – oxidative stress. The virus attacks ACE2 receptors causing a cascade of reactions that ends with the release of von Willebrand factor. This factor is designed to promote clotting for repair purposes, but with ACE2 knocked out it goes into overdrive killing the patient via runaway coagulation. Horrible.
It also explains why children don’t get it; ACE2 receptors are not yet present in the young. Those very few who do succumb will have had Kawasaki disease or similar, which is an inflammation of the cardio vascular system leaving them wide open to virus hit.
No.68 was exemplary, looking at why ethnic minorities appear to be more susceptible, and at the small increase in Kawasaki-like disease; in that segment he cites a paper published back in 2010! The information is out there folks, the real science; shame we no longer have reporters these days.
The presentations are also available on YouTube, although several have been taken down for breaching the WHO guidelines; a sure sign that he is over the target. Ridiculous because he is so straight and methodical always qualifying his hypotheses as latest conjecture, not absolute truth, and putting his sources in context. And isn’t that the true science – present an idea and get others to replicate and confirm, or reject. Never mind the disease, no-platforming has gone viral.
Cheers Phil will avidly pore over that site later.
Coronavirus Pandemic Update 68: Kawasaki Disease; Minority Groups & COVID-19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja-jhcXMGj0
Coronavirus Pandemic Update 75: COVID-19 Lung Autopsies – New Data
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlUFibXtDxQ
This latest one is particularly good. You will never see such expertise and clarity in the media nor from politicians.
Coronavirus Pandemic Update 76: Antibody Testing False Positives in COVID-19
Different needs need different lies to hide different parts of the same real information. I know this having spent much of my life comparing ‘news’ from various sources and countries because the truth is often discernible from the contradictions one sees.
But yikes! Blatantly in the open putting infectious patients into care homes in about three countries that I know of! All those mothers and fathers gone and all the evidence conveniently not recorded? The proof may be gone but the memories will linger on.
Having shared an office in South Africa for 2 years with a Russian lady who’s dad had been a general in the Soviet army I know their style, putting people in gulags and the like everything recorded but secret, all tracks covered. It’s not the Russians.
This lot want to look more powerful than they are so they let some people see. They’re also started playing with the Australians. I once worked with an ex Royal Marine who was in Korea. They’ve forgotten. That could change.
Histopathology
A new one on me Viv, thank you for printing a master class on just what medical history can be deduced from a tissue sample.
I and I guess many more ( including Government dumclucks) have no previous idea of what can be deduced about a “new virus”, but that is no excuse for those who should have this information at their finger tips failing to be thorough in their “scientific advice” which should reflect bang up to date research and methodology.
In this case I would hate to have to believe that these sources were first and foremost formulating this advice on ideological and political “framing” grounds.
Your analysis and guidance has been most helpful Viv in bringing this aspect of our deception to light, I might even say it is an ingredient of a conspiracy which must be exposed to a wider audience which I believe the MSM is selling short. Power to your and Independence Daily’s arm in spreading the truth