With Brexit in such a perilous state and neither main political party having an iota of an idea as to which way to proceed, the need for clarity is most important.
Theresa May has kicked this problem further and further down the road, to the point that, one can only surmise, she is running the clock down to see who will blink first.
With her “really not leaving”-leaving deal completed and on the table it has become crystal clear that the majority of MP`s will not vote for it. Therefore, the only legal option is to make that much voted for clean break and just leave the EU on the 29th March 2019.
Those in Parliament who do not wish to leave and see it as a potential catastrophe will have to blink first though, and to stave off the so-called ‘fall off a big cliff’ they will have to vote for the deal on offer. The Prime Minister is adamant that there will be no second referendum. In this regard I must take my hat off to her for staying true to her manifesto. The remoaners are doing everything in their power to increase the pressure and I hope sincerely that she does not give in.
Various cabinet ministers and individual backbenchers have made it clear that they will resign. Well – good riddance, I say, to their posturing and threats!
In truth, looking around social media and amongst all my friends, a second referendum will be a disaster for not only the democracy of this country but it will also give way to potential civil unrest, not seen since the 1600’s.
If a business or institution was in such a perilous state you can guarantee that the executive and senior managers would not be breaking for a holiday. I think it is inconceivable that Parliament will rise on the 20th December for two weeks leaving the country to just blow in the wind …
They surely cannot go away, back to constituencies and the shires to eat their turkey, sing carols and get drunk. They cannot easily relax and be festive when all the time at the back – and it should be at the forefront of their minds! – is this mess that they, and they alone, have manufactured.
We are hearing stories that the Government is planning to use the army; they are allegedly buying fridges by the warehouse-full and spending 4.9billion quid – where has that come from? We are in austerity, are we not!
The Labour party, do not be fooled, would not be in any better a position to see this through. They are all at sea too. This was highlighted by their inept leader when he tabled a motion of no confidence in the Prime Minister and not the Government. This was a big mistake as the Tories are under no obligation to give this motion any time within the parliamentary timetable whereas if it had been a motion against the government then time would have to be found to debate and vote on it. This man wants to run the country.
Bear in mind that 650 MP’s earn £77,000 per year in salary and claim £98 millions in expenses between them. My thoughts are clear and simple: you must not be allowed to go anywhere until you have this sorted out. No break and no time off until the methodology of our divorce from the EU is sorted, agreed, voted on and moved into statute law assented by Her Majesty the Queen.
People are just sick and tired of this situation and the constant one-sided bias of the press and media. We are not fools, not thick, not all Northern, and we did know what we were voting for. Parliament (650 of them) must be made to get together, stop their bickering and get this malaise sorted out.
It will be to all their detriment if they do not. The next election, even if it is, as planned under the fixed term act in 2022, will have a very different makeup compared to how it is now. People will not forget the Tories by any stretch of the imagination. Labour will not fare any better either as they are remembered for simply being wet, unorganized and unhelpful. For the glory of power, they are clearly playing silly games and must grow up.
We are in uncharted waters, without a doubt, but the British people are brave, loyal and strong. They can and will survive, come through this and anything it throws at us. Resilience and the British Bulldog spirit will prevail.
Bring it on!
Just go to work as usual. No-body’s falling off anything.Daft.The Civil Service and MPs may have a hissey fit just to show us who is the boss. We must have a response ready for that eventuallity.. ? Please ?
Stephen Place said: “With her “really not leaving”-leaving deal completed and on the table it has become crystal clear that the majority of MP`s will not vote for it.”
Rubbish!
Theresa May’s Draft Withdrawal Agreement is indeed not Leave, it is continuity Remain – in the EU’s customs union, the UK split up, subject to EU laws, subject to the CJEU, subject to EU military unification, in the EAW, no exit clause, no recourse to international law, etc, etc.
And that’s why the majority of MPs will vote for it. Most MPs are Remains. They will take Mrs May’s revolving-door Remain in preference to (supposedly) “crashing out” every day. Why else do you think Mrs May is rejecting a second referendum? That’s right – it makes acceptance of her deal all the more likely. This has been gamed. It’s just so bleedin obvious.
-“If a business or institution was in such a perilous state you can guarantee that the executive and senior managers would not be breaking for a holiday. I think it is inconceivable that Parliament will rise on the 20th December for two weeks leaving the country to just blow in the wind …
They surely cannot go away, back to constituencies and the shires to eat their turkey, sing carols and get drunk. They cannot easily relax and be festive when all the time at the back – and it should be at the forefront of their minds! – is this mess that they, and they alone, have manufactured.”
Sadly, we’re talking about our Parliament here, rather than a well-run business. MPs will go back to their homes, with this all up in the air, and they won’t care. They don’t care about us ordinary people. They will quoff a glass of champagne, and eat their luxury mince pies, all paid for of course by our – taxpayers – money through their very generous salaries.
Just look at yesterday’s car crash of PMQs – everyone has gotten hysterical because Jeremy Corbyn was seen to mouth ‘stupid woman’…
MISOGYNIST!!!!
HOW DARE HE SPEAK TO A WOMAN LIKE THAT!!!!!!
APOLOGISE!!!!!
HE MUST RESIGN NOW!!!!
#METOO!!!!!!!
etc etc
But yet no-one is outraged by the fact that our House Of Commons and PMQs just weekly is a torrent of abuse, slagging off, political point-scoring, making cheap-shots etc. No sensible debate any more. Just a pantomime.
PS did no-one else spot Phil Hammond mouthing “Hopeless. Absolutely hopeless” in that video? Whether that was directed at Corbyn, or summed up his thoughts on May, it is equally valid.
Our Parliament is an embarrassment.
Reference the last comment about the Queen assenting to legislation. My information is that though the Queen may have a weekly chat with the PM she never actually sees the legislation in that someone from the House of Lords called a “Queen’s Cousin” applies the Royal Seal. In other words in this respect we have no protection and the separation of powers is barely in existence.
The matter is even worse in that we are in the current mess because Mr Heath was able to strong-arm Parliament into taking us into the EC because since the Glorious Revolution (so-called) of 1688/9 the Bill of Rights (while purporting to confirm our rights) was a revolution by the Estates against the monarchy,specifically prohibiting the Monarch from interfering with legislation “without the consent of Parliament”.
Since time immemorial the Monarch is obliged to protect the people in that the Coronation Oath of 1688, the Oath taken by every monarch on accession,solemnly swears (in that moving ceremony) to govern according to our laws and customs. i.e the Common Law of the people.
So, this clause in the Bill of Rights cancels our protection and is responsible for the legal fiction but the fact in practice of “parliamentary sovereignty” where the majority party, through the Whips, controls Parliament and the ensuing corruption most of the time. The exception seems to be that this referendum has created this unique situation where all the politicians, claiming to a man/woman that they are “democrats” are having hell of a job wriggling.
Under Common Law and Magna Carta the people are sovereign in that they govern through the law and trial by jury.
Unfortunately this feature of our constitution has been very cleverly side-stepped by the Estates through the gradual increase of universal suffrage, cleverly misnamed democracy, so that instead of the political process operating under control of the laws that still exist the process features factions called parties FOR POWER outside the law, leading to the constant instability which we are currently witnessing.
Hypocrisy, which disgusts the people, is a main feature of the party system in that both sides accuse the other of putting party before country yet a dedicated rump of the Tory party the ERG are trying to make sure May doesn’t succeed in betraying us all to the EUSSR with the help of its business associates in the UK.. Clearly the sole objective is to get out of the clutches of the EU completely and that seems to mean WTO.
After that we must attend to rescuing our constitution. john.cruttwell@sfr.fr
The only Brexit policy that has a huge majority in the Commons is RemaIN EU!
”Various cabinet ministers and individual backbenchers have made it clear that they will resign”
Where do I get the list?
I’ll mail merge the names, then drop them a line and note of encouragement.
Same as no confidence votes – put up or shut up.
One gets the impression that government is intent on manufacturing a crisis just to be able to say “we told you so”.
Oh heaven forfend!!!!!!
We are a government of peace, we would never indulge in a fear campaign, we operate a system based on cultural Marxism as exemplified by our directors in Brussels .
Those who are putting this about are extreme extremists and are vermin requiring extermination (at least incarceration)(our next year`s Marrakesh accord will make this clear)