One positive thing the elections last week for the European Parliament have managed to do is to make the failing two main political parties come off the fence and make the final decision as to where they stand on Brexit.
Yes, Brexit: who would have known on 23rd June 2016 just what voting to leave the EU would have meant for this country in the coming three years. Of course on the 24th June we could have left, anyone who had any sense of realism and patriotism would have repealed the 1972 Communities act, which would have rendered us left, then said to the EU oligarchs we will offer you tariff free trading and a relationship that is beneficial to all.
We didn’t of course, no – we embarked on a series of the most stupid events that will be confined to history as a smear of enormous proportions on this great nation. First, we saw an instant walking away of the Prime Minister Cameron, a man clearly lacking any backbone and sense of duty. We had then thrust upon us a new Prime Minister who was clearly, and boy has she proven the point, a remainer, in Theresa May.
Secondly Ed Miliband copied Cameron and walked away. What followed I think stunned even the most cynical political pundit. Jeremy Corbyn, a man who is as anti – British as you can possibly get, came from the back benches where he had wallowed in rebellion for thirty years to take up the leadership. Supported by an enormous group of far-left activists, Momentum, he has now totally taken over the Labour Party and threatens a seriously worrying Marxist government.
Mrs May, buoyed by her polling (just goes to show you cannot believe a poll) then called a snap General Election which seriously pissed off people, but dutifully we went to the polls and she was returned to power on a much reduced majority and had to spend one billion quid of your and mine tax monies on buying the support of the DUP in a confidence and supply agreement – yes me too: just what does that mean?
In plain speak the Tories bought the support of nine DUP MP’s to keep them in power. It cost one billion £££, was not in their manifesto and so they did not have a mandate from the British people to do this, but who cares eh! Power corrupts.
The Labour party, realising they had voted in as leader some nut job who has supported terror groups and has not got a clue about how to be an opposition leader let alone lead a proper opposition party, went down the road of two challenges to his apology of a leadership. He went on the stage though at Glastonbury to the hordes of high-as-a-kite rich kids who could afford a ticket to go on a mud fest for a week of drink, sex and drugs. Hailed a hero for the working classes he won out and remains the leader.
Mrs May then went on to lose 36 cabinet ministers, take almost three years to come up with the most ridiculous not-really-leaving in any sense of the word leaving withdrawal agreement which Parliament rejected not once, not twice but thrice, yes she is that obstinate, she kept sending it back for a further examination of the same thing in the hope of being given a different answer – is that not very close to the definition of insanity?
So throughout this time, the one party, yes the one party that had talked sense, fought hard for the referendum, never blinked on Brexit yet had been denigrated and rubbished at every given opportunity by the media and press, especially the BBC and Channel 4 news, Ukip, went on a trip that resulted in them taking a tour down the pathway of Marches along the embankment, endorsing people not exactly resonating with the press let alone the electorate and which has left them temporarily in the doldrums, but I can tell you we will be back, as Arnie has said several times, yes “we will be back”.
The rise of Nigel Farage`s Brexit Party has shocked to their kitten heels the Tories and to their Doc Martins the Labour party, losing so badly, firstly at the local elections then three weeks later the EU elections, they are now trembling and shaking.
The Tories have lost their second Prime Minister to Brexit as May has gone to much relief throughout the country. Labour are still worshipping at the altar of Corbyn. The Tories are deciding now who will replace the Maybot. They are divided between a no deal set of contenders and never a no deal set, ten have come forward so far. They are in very serious danger, the Tories. Farage awaits on the side lines ready to pounce and fill that void they have opened.
Labour still wake each day and wet their fingers and stick them in the air: whichever way the wind blows they go that way that day. The wind though is dying down for most as they are determined to become the remainer party insisting on a second referendum. The bigger noises, Starmer, Thornbury and McDonnell, have nailed their colours to the mast firmly for remain. Dangerous: yes because the Greens and Lib-Dems beat them to it. Dangerous: yes because the five million leave Labour voters will be looking for a new home on this subject. Ukip with a new leader and new manifesto that speaks to them, can, if quick enough attract these voters, speed is of the essence for them.
Oh yes: like the battles of Winterfell and Westeros the armies line up. I just hope that this ending is not as quick and shallow and as disappointing as those two battles.
from PMB To get back to the main article – isn’t Stephen Place good by the way – whoever would have thought it! Haven’t we seen a lot of wood worms crawling out of holes. Both main Parties rotten to the core. But the overwhelming impression to my mind is how we are actually Ruled by THE MEDIA.
And all this bickering and talk does just what to further Brexit? If you don’t like UKIP fine just join something else, Do the same with all the parties, we all have one vote and mostly that is ignored at party level any party . It maybe nice to talk, it’s action we need.
Stephen,
You mention Channel 4 and the BBC as the news organisations that lied to the British public and blackened the name of UKIP.
Please don’t forget Sky. With Lardarse Adam Boulton leading the charge to mislead the British public and spread misinformation about UKIP.
Also, UKIP, I believe have an excellent manifesto already. It’s just that the MSM won’t let UKIP talk about it or the British public hear it.
Not true! I keep saying it.
Don’t believe the fake news. Gerard and his team have AVOIDED dialogue with the MSM, not the other way round.
Makes you wonder why Gerard paid £70k for Kris Hicks and similar for Liz Phillips.
Money for nothing and your kicks for free….
SPOT THE RACKET.
I’m afraid you inhabit a different plant from the one I live on.
Whenever GB was interviewed by MSM he was only asked about TR or CB.
However much he tried GB was never allowed to talk about the real issues surrounding the election.
To say otherwise is unbelievable.
I can only assume you that you only wish to criticise GB.
I do not believe that anyone can think that GB/UKIP were given a fair crack by the MSM.
John,
here is UKIP’s Richard Braine, telling BBC’s Naga what radical means,
to quote Kevin Baverstock Richard Is “a pleasant fellow, well educated and a good communicator ”
https://youtu.be/yV8kIbzR_m0
Very impressive
Firstly The Brexit Party should join UKIP not the other way around. Secondly according to Barnier the withdrawal agreement/treaty was finalised and SIGNED 6 months ago, there will be no renegotiation!
I am sorry to inform you I will be staying with Nigel, he has the way to stir up the voters and I hope win the next GE
also ukip should join forces and make us a greater threat to the establishment
Stuart, I think the whole point of Nigel setting up TBP was to have an organisation different from the UKIP set-up, i.e. without a NEC, and time-delays on action. I understand Nigel has adopted methods of Beppe Grillo’s Italian 5* movement (or will do so). A join-up is unlikely IMO.
I agree with you Stuart. My UKIP membership lapsed at the start of this year. I had lost faith with G Batten’s style of leadership and his apparent lack of desire to turn UKIP into a a main stream British political party. G Batten wanted to increase UKIP membership and appeared to ignore the members views of those who would man street stalls.
At my lowly position in UKIP no one listened hence my non renewal of membership. I and one other member of a UKIP branch, where moral was not high, are now supporting The Brexit Party. The UKIP branch lost
of its two out of three ‘active’ members.
David, It is impossible to be more lowly than me. I don’t think much of his style of leadership either , but he seems vaguely realistic.
But it seems to me that he has set up ( or tried ) to set up a party for an achieving, continueing,and successful permanent political party dedicated to unrelentlessly pursueing successful independance.
That’s fine by me. If really boring.. .I’ll take any advance at all.
But he’s a crap leader and I believe chosen an nonoptimal route. However I believe the seperation of parties is best for now. While UKIP mends itself.. ie we have two routes I think a third might be good strategically.( I dunno, ask a strategist )
PS a strategist tells me that players like to have a choice of flashy world shaking ,and a slow steady tortoise. he had no idea about adding a third contestant ( a mole ) ( Leave means leave )
Stuart,
vote for Nigel and his cocktail party to represent decent UIKP members in Parliament?
I thought we were going to drain the swamp of lying hypocrites.
No fence sitting by Politicians – 80% are RemaIN fanatics and so they have not changed their view since the 2016 referendum.
Stephen,
I’m not in the doldrums, in fact I feel really positive about UKIPs future and I believe many of us would like to continue on this present pathway.
UKIP has had nearly 3 years since the referendum to do what TBP has done. It has only collected more baggage as a dysfunctional bunch of competing individuals with much lack ofcoordinatiom at the top. GB has done welll, but clearly he has not been able to instill any discipline at the top and, bit by bit, they have either sunk into lethagy and silence, or left the party. At the local elections, UKIP was the only Brexit party – no TBP in sight, but in Bournemouth conurbation, UKIP polled 7000 votes against 32,000 in 2015. Does that look like the only party to get us out to you?
I don’t wish to be unkind and I have great respect for what UKIP did in the past, but it was clear to me at the Torquay conference 2016, and long, long before Tommy Robinson or Carl Benthingummy came on the scene, that UKIP was going nowhere. It is no use the UKIPPERS on this forum repeating blind loyalist mantras. You need to face reality, or give up and pursue objectives and aspirations for Britain that you may have through other means.
So sorry to say this, but wishful thinking is not attractive to me.
TW,
UKIP for years has been fighting on multiple fronts ie the MsM, lab/lib/con, brussels, and
internal members of your stance.
On reflection farage was a coxswain type leader of UKIP steering the party as I have posted before along a PC/Appeasement tory party course.
Those MEPs that left in what I regard as beneficial to the party, in a self pruning manner
showed their lack of decency in keeping the UKIP seats.
Yes you will be well suited as farage material.
Your likes are going to be to pleased to acknowledge the likes of Tommy Robinson, Carl Benjamin, co all the signs are dictating that, and before very long,
UKIP were polling at 11-12% nationally (not far short of 2015) and 18% for the EU elections before Nigel got TBP fired up! That is not to be sniffed at. Also, the media have given Nigel whereas G Batten has had to answer constant questions about TR and C Benjamin!
The problem is, if Gerard does not seek re-election, who is going to be leader? This is a very, very difficult job (actually made a little easier by poor local and EU election results).
RM,
Gerard Batten is sound leadership material, farage in my book since the anti Batten / UKIP
membership unwarranted, undeserved , rant revealed his true colours and his backing for
leader / letdowns.
The bolton being his last attempt at a conduit into the UKIP party after he resigned, he is to my mind a born again ersatz tory.
Eventually the ersat tory party will complete the metamorphosis process and emerge as the
brexit group ie ersatz tory party MK2.
A behind Gerard Batten 100% to stand in the leadership elections, his continuation is sorely needed.
Well for an ersatz Tory, NF is doing a pretty good job of depth charging and exposing The In Cobservative Party. So he may be conservative- the philiosophy not the party, but NOT Conservative. Q