Observations on Rodney Atkinson’s article ‘The May Withdrawal Treaty would be a disaster and could not be renegotiatied‘ which was published on his site ‘Freenations’.
Treaties are stipulated between sovereign states, normally. If one of the parties decides to resile unilaterally, there is nothing much the other one can do about it, unless it is prepared to invade the other and re-impose observance with armed force.
Laws can only be considered really binding if they have not only courts to arbitrate, but effective enforcement agencies, ie with police and prisons and the ability to inflict hurtful penalties, on those who break them. These are the attributes of sovereign states alone. There is therefore no such thing as “international law”.
Civil laws need to be underpinned by criminal law, for a civil court can only inflict pecuniary penalties, but if the party concerned refuses to pay up, criminal-law provisions will be needed in order to send in hobnailed-booted enforcers in order to bend him to their will, by taking away his property, and if he resists, sending him to prison.
If a person breaks the law of the land, he can expect to suffer physical consequences, such as prison. A treaty does not have this force of law. It is more like a gentleman’s agreement. If one party breaches it, they may expect to suffer some – debatable – loss of reputation or credibility, but no more.
Under the bedrock provision of the British Constitution, to wit, that No Parliament Can Bind Its Successors, if one Parliament ratifies a bad Treaty, the next Parliament is at liberty to revoke it, unilaterally. It does not require the consent of the other Party to that Treaty, nor does it have to follow any particular procedure laid down by that Treaty.
The EU treaties are exceptional in that their ultimate aim is to unite and dissolve a number of sovereign states into one single State – the United State of Europe. To do this effectively, they will need not only a court – the ECJ, which they have already – but enforcement agencies which are able to enforce the decisions of the Court on recalcitrants. This is why they will need a beefed-up Europol, the European Gendarmerie Force and ultimately a European Army, under central command and control from Brussels, in order for a European State to exist. As long as the means of hard, violent, physical enforcement are controlled by the existing national states, the European State cannot exist.
This is why, with this danger in mind, over the years I have focussed on the Corpus Juris project for a single all-EU criminal code with a European Public Prosecutor, the European Arrest Warrant which is the first step towards Corpus Juris, and the nascent Eurogendarmerie.
I have shouted myself hoarse in trying to flag up Theresa May’s incredibly dangerous statement to the Commons when Home Secretary in June 2012, that “of course” she would welcome “special intervention units from our European allies (ie the Eurogendarmerie) onto British soil” if she “saw the need”. Alas, to no avail, no other commentators have picked this theme up, so far.
People in Britain have had the good fortune of being accustomed, for centuries, to matters of political power being decided by debate, by voting etc, so much so that we have completely forgotten, and blanked out of our minds, the harsh underlying truth that in the last analysis “power springs from the barrel of a gun”.
Lethally-armed foreign paramilitaries, such as will be welcomed by Theresa May, owe allegiance only to Brussels which claims supremacy over us. We allow them onto our soil at our peril.
This is why we should be highly vigilant as to the prospect of a UK-EU “Security” Treaty, to be stipulated after Brexit (if that ever occurs), planned by Mrs May, with Amber Rudd and others, which will provide not only the amalgamation of our armed forces with those of the EU, as Veterans for Britain and a few others have been warning, but also our continued membership of Europol and acceptance of the European Arrest Warrant, as Home Secretary Rudd announced to the Commons in March 2017, with the prospect of the Eurogendarmerie getting its hobnailed boots onto our soil, as thoughtlessly envisaged by May in June 2012.
Once that happens, it will be bullets, not ballots, that will decide the outcome. We have a duty to make every effort for matters not to reach that point. As a first step, we must sound the alarm and make sure that people are aware of the danger, and of what is at stake.
It may just be that people like Jacob Rees-Mogg and Boris Johnson are intending to agree to May’s dreadful WA Treaty, with the idea that, even it provides within itself no escape mechanism like article 50, later we will, if all else fails, be able to leave it unilaterally.
What they seem not to realise is that as soon as it is passed, the treacherous Mrs May intends to stipulate a separate Security Treaty with the EU, which will involve the amalgamation of our armed forces with theirs, and the placing of their hobnailed boots on our soil. Once that is achieved, well, they will hold the guns and we will have none.
The blue flag with the circle of yellow stars will flutter over Big Ben and Buckingham Palace. Brussels will rule our roost, completely. A once-proud nation state will have been reduced to the status of a province, governed totally from a location beyond its borders.
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Torquil – can we copy this to Facebook etc. It is far too good to be hidden away here.
Time for those on the side of freedom, self-governance and sovereignty to call the EU by its true name, viz, the outgrowth and continuation of 3rd-Way Continental Utopian Fascism. I have written to my MP and a few leading Tories as an ordinary member of the pubic unaligned to any party, to show them the links to the ideology of Mussolini and others, clearly referenced to actions, laws and policies. I have no ida what they think of me. I imagine either they must realise it’s true and believe it is too late to resist the enslavement that is planned, or are as brainwashed as those in Remain who actually believe in the 3rd-way program, or else actively want the takeover. Who can be sure?
Those in the same camp, whether UKIP, the BP, or the Bruges group or whatever other group opposed to the 3rd-Way corporate collectivist (Fabian) balkanisation of Europe and its invasion of the UK, should obviously support one another.
My feeling is the collusion goes worryingly higher, to the Privy Council and via it to Whitehall who are either the useful idiots within or else the willing operatives of what they know to be a takeover. It may sound incredible but the Royal Family has not historically been exactly UNrenowned for its allegiance to European madness in the past and there are potentially gains to be won for its position by the re-feudalisation of the entire European continent and Britain too. When you look at this as the restoration of feudal rules and the eventual serfdom of the People, under a revolutionary concept of 3rd-Way fascism, under constitutional laws (aka the Justinian Code/napoleonic Code) and under a monarchical structure where the republics of Europe will agree to having a symbolic monarchy, the New Order will be in place.
The historical European Fascists were always ready to agree terms with the old aristocracies and old money, as they were with the Vatican, in order to seize control of land and make the people subservient to their rule.
ipz – Have a look at this then, there are many other sources but this one conveniently came to hand and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
“Royal Nazi History”
https://www.lostblogger.com/british-royal-family-nazi-history/
Thank you, very interesting and clear evidence of the historical ties to European utopian romantic fascism; not only are the current Royals not Celt, Dane, Norman, Welsh Tudor or Scottish Stuart (though who knows if that would make any difference today?) but their specific heritage and connections as mentioned in the article clearly gives them a motive for not wanting the English to rule themselves, given the propensity of the English to take matters rather seriously where English Common Law is concerned. As Walter Bagehot wrote, the purpose of the English Constitution was to prevent the Privy Council regaining any powers that it had held under the Tudors and before.
Who cares about that any more? It has been expunged from schoolbooks totally. Worrying what is written about the House of Orange there also.
I was surprised when Torquil said that “there is no such thing as international law”. After all, states sign treaties between each other and international courts exist. Torquil surely meant that international law cannot be enforced, as he went on to show in his excellent article. He understands that Mrs May’s misnamed Withdrawal Agreement is the Final Solution to the British Problem, cooked up by the EU (known to some as the Fourth Reich).
International law cannot usually be enforced, as the United Nation’s failure to prevent the massacre of over a million Tutsi people in Rwanda showed, along with all the UN’s other failures down the years. And you can be sure that the United Nations won’t be passing any resolutions to stop massacres by the Euro Gendarmerie Force when those massacres start in Britain. The UN will probably endorse those EU measures against “racists and xenophobes”, as any who resist Fourth Reich rule are described.
They are doing the same as the 1930s fascists did, with the willing support of socialist-leaning globalists (which defines Fascism). Who knows also if these are tied to transnational medieval “Orders” and other secret societies. The old powers always hated the middle classes and capitalists whose free thinking and intelligent habits undermined their corrupt privileges.
Heinrich Himmler, who ran the SS, said “In the course of history periods of capitalism and socialism alternate with one another; capitalism is the unnatural, socialism the natural economic system…The National Socialists and the Red Front have the same aspirations. Himmler’s godfather was Prince Heinrich of Bavaria, and we see this link-up between the disenchanted revolutionary-minded lower middle classes and the aristocrats throughout European history. Mussolini likewise though from a humble background, a radical, admired the upper classes and made deals with the vatican and with Emmanuel III who however eventually summoned him to the palace and had him arrested. Franco’s compromise of Carlist and Falangist thinking illustrates the need for those in the vanguard of socialist fascism to unite with the upper classes to achieve their aims. ChangeUK illustrates this too, fusing progressive Blairite and Clintonite/Obamite style globalist ideals with a new kind of “civil society” for the elites who know “what is best for stupid people.”
The “Communautaire” ideology behind the EU was seated summed up byVaclav Klaus:
“Communitarianism is a collectivist philosophy that explicitly rejects individualism. It does not merely relegate individualism to a subordinate position, but is openly hostile to it. It is an ideology of ‘civic society’ which is nothing less than one version of Post-Marxist collectivism which wants privileges for certain wealthy and influential organized groups, and in consequence, a renewed feudalising of society”. Like the “enlightened him intellectual class” and the radical aristocrats who supported the WWI social darwinists, and Mussolini, who stated, “The people do not know what they want; they do not know what is the best for them…..Fascism is definitely and absolutely opposed to the doctrines of liberalism, both in the political and economic sphere…. the world’s social revolution will be followed by a more equitable distribution of the earth’s riches” (virtually the whole of the EU hierarchy believes this) these people are essentially schizophrenic to the point of being utterly deadly.
Schizophrenic …………and psychopathic?
Why is the Bill of Rights always dismissed and ignored. The Declaration of Right and the Bill of Rights clearly state that-No foreign Prince, person, prelate, state, potentate hath, or ought to have any jurisdiction, power, superiority, pre-eminence, or authority, ecclesiastical or spiritual, WITHIN THIS REALM. GIVING OUR SOVEREIGNTY TO THE EU IS TRAITOROUS.
THIS IS TREASON AGAINST THE STATE ! One of the main reasons why King Charles was separated from his head, in 1649, was the proven charge of Treason against the People of this Nation.- He was found to have brought in Foreign Mercenaries from across the Channel, to back his position against Parliament in our Civil War !
Now we have a Constitutional Crown, and yet a Parliament making preparations against the People ! Oliver Cromwell would rip the guts out of this Parliament, and close it down ! This disgusting about turn has taken just three and a half centuries, and yet the actions have accelerated in only the last half of my own lifetime !
The People, (Peasants), before Parliament was understood, and only Lords involved in 1381, were forced down by Richard ll, even though the King, (a teenager), understood the People’s demands.- The Peasants Revolt ended with the leader, Wat Tyler, being killed with many of his followers, by the King’s ‘Advisors’ !
HRH clearly would not want to get involved, but I think the Queen may have to when we have a Treasonous Parliament acting against her Subject’s interests and freedoms. It’s a pity that Treason and Death Penalty were abolished for such as this ! HRH remains as figurehead of our Armed Forces, so there are possibilities, aren’t there ?
“He was found to have brought in Foreign Mercenaries from across the Channel”
Just as May is doing…
But to more immediate concerns. This mess is down to UKIP direction. ( Leadership ).
NO body else.
The one constant is the NEC,and its wierd belief in a sacrosanct constitution.
The second is the belief in politics underpinning it.
So the ideal future for our leadership for our leaders is ( Like tories ) the growthof a political party.
Uergh
Now we know the purpose of the second amendment. And why lefties hate it. They assume the state is always good.
….. and that folks is game over. So difficult or nigh on impossible to understand how anyone would think that was a good thing for the UK or anyone for that matter. It’s all in the mindset though. Europhiles come at this from a completely different angle and salivate over a future complete oneness. All power centralised. No borders, boundaries or dissent. My son-in-law sees life this way and it is pointless pointing out the flaws, especially historical ones [water off a ducks back]. Albeit from his very middle class, predominately white, cosy little world. Completely blind to the dangers. Unfortunately it will be their children that reap the storm I think unless it is stopped.
Ask him how happy he will be when we no longer have our own foreign policy, have to pay additional taxes to pay for the e.u. military, when jobs go from our manufacturing armament industry and how happy he will be when his kids get conscripted for one of the e.u’s little conflicts which are on the horizon as they get more involved in the Baltic states border with Russia and continue to meddle in North and Central Africa. I doubt if it will be stopped Hez until the bags start returning.
Yeah well, there’s ten thousand foreign pairs of hobnailed boots already on our soil. That this is a coup that we’re witnessing I have no doubt and I too have been shouting myself hoarse, it’s nearly too late now.
In times past Theresa May would have been hung by the neck until dead, one or two others as well.
Indeed, I’ve not seen any report of their impending departure so must assume that they will remain here unless / until May gets her disasterous surrender treaty approved. One thing we perhaps may take some comfort from is the probability that 10,000 are insufficent to enforce control but I would be more confident if we had our equivalent of the US Second Amendment. However, maybe many more are in waiting across the Channel…
Ageing population equals falling crime and public order problems, ( leaving terrorism and the elephant in the room out of the mix )
which is just as well as the police would seem unable to deal with either it as they did before in the late seventies and 80’s. In town this morning I witnessed 10 ‘police officers’ and four P.C.S.O’s slouching around and huddling in shop doorways as it was windy and raining. It’s carnival day here which presumably warrants a police presence on view apparently as they are usually in their stealth uniforms and not visible, This lot were obviously unused to working outside in inclement weather and their bearing and turn out was appalling.
The government would be unwilling ( even the present clowns ) I think to call for assistance from e.u member state troops in the case of any large scale disturbances but it is worth remembering that that would not be needed as eugenfor ( the e.u para military police ) can operate in any member state whether by invitation or not .
Meanwhile military UNIFICATION of British military assets into the e.u/military complex has already been agreed and signed up to by this government , without any discussion in parliament and presumably Brenda signing the paper work. Just how we are supposed to be an independent nation without the means of defending ourselves or even having our own foreign policy remains a mystery along with why the house of clowns has allowed this to happen. The main stream media openly talks about this in Europe as do various European politicians but here there is a what can only be thought of as a controlled silence on the matter.
That military unification simply has to be stopped, but it is rarely if ever mentioned and I suspect that most people are completely ignorant of it. We voted for out of the EU, no ifs, no buts and certainly no ongoing military unification. If it continues then it is certain that we will be dragged into wars not of our own making.
We need a mutiny by those in the military who are from ordinary British families like most of our own.
What we need Jack is our equivalent of the US First Amendment, rather than the Second. Then all the people fighting against this will not be silenced on some trumped up charge like public order, such as hanging around outside a court building talking into your phone..
Yes, I guess both would be best maybe as part of a new constitution.
pls clarify the 10000 pairs of hobnailed boots?
The 10,000 EU troops already on ‘exercises’ in Scotland. We know they arrived just in time for 29/3/2019. We do NOT know if/ when they went back to the mainland.
I’m a bit lost: would you explain the 10,000 hobnailed boots, whose they are and where they are????
It was actually 20,000 hobnailed boots Sonya (10,000 pairs) since soldiers wear one on each foot and it was widely reported in the national press that there were 10,000 EU troops here to train with our troops on ‘exercises’!! As Bill Walsh says they very conveniently arrived to be settled in just before the 29th March leaving date. It seemed very suspicious to me and obviously looks that way to others too.