Written by Sonja Porter
According to the Daily Express, writing on 19th August, ‘Joe Biden has been criticised after he played down the desperate attempt of Afghans to flee by clinging on to planes, saying “that was four or five days ago”‘ The Afghan debacle seems to have happened so quickly that most people have been stunned not only at the fact that it has happened, but at the speed it took. Five days ago, American troops were fighting in Afghanistan as they had been for the past 20 years, but now they scrambling to return home.
‘…Four or five days ago.’ Is that in fact a short time or a long one, as President Biden seems to think?
Who knows?
After all, how long is time and come to that, how big is space? Who keeps the measure, for we humans certainly don’t.
We measure time by how long it takes for our planet to orbit our sun. One orbit, one year. We say that the universe has existed for about 13.5 billion years since its creation and our Milky Way galaxy a little less. The sun was formed some 4.5 billion years ago and our planet a little later. A long existence or a short one? How do we tell? We judge the length of a human life as being, roughly, seventy turns of our sun; cats and dogs might live for ten turns and perhaps think them to be as long a life as ours. And how about that mayfly — it lives for just one of our days but if it could think, would it consider that it had lived a good, long life? And elements? Some survive for a minute fraction of a second — a long life or a short one? How do we know?
And how about space, do we have any true measure for distance?
If using the Imperial system, we humans measure distance by pacing out a mile. Our planet’s circumference at the equator is about 25,000 of our miles, which seems to us to be a fair distance. Our satellite the moon has a smaller circumference of 2,161 miles but is 238,855 miles from earth, while our star the Sun is all of 93 million miles from earth and the distance to the furthest planet in our star system, Neptune, is an average of 2.8 billion miles. Which we can just about imagine. But after that, the distances are so vast that we have to measure in light years. A light year is not time but the distance that light travels in a year and since light travels approximately 86,000 miles in one second, the distance it must travel in a year is 6 trillion miles which means that our nearest star is Proxima Centauri is 4.3 light years or 25 trillion miles from the Sun…an unimaginable distance.
But if we go the other way, distances become unimaginably small.
To us, a mayfly is tiny, but can still be seen fluttering over water; a grain of sand is even smaller but can still be seen when held in the hand. But an atom can only be seen by using a very special tunnelling microscope. Atomism (from the Ancient Greek atmos’ meaning ‘uncuttable’) was theorised by several civilisations in the past, including Ancient Greece and India, which believed that the natural world consisted of two fundamental parts: indivisible atoms and empty void. And so it was believed until the last century when the atom was first split by the New Zealander, Ernest Rutherford. Now we could ‘see’ inside the atom, but not with our eyes, only with a special ‘tunnelling’ microscope: to visualize the minuteness of the atom, consider that a typical human hair is about 1 million carbon atoms in width. And now there are sub-atomic particles with wonderful names such as quarks, strange and charm, which are even smaller and even more impossible for us to see. So, how far ‘down’ is it possible to go, how tiny do things have to be before they cease to exist?
A 1957 film called The Incredible Shrinking Man ended with the realisation by the protagonist that no matter how much he shrank — from the size of a child, to the size of a spider, to the size of a bacterium — he would not die but simply go on getting smaller and smaller. If we could look inside an electron, should we see another universe which contained other electrons which, if split would show another universe and other electrons and so on to infinity?
But how about going the other way? We think the universe immense, but in truth, is it? How do we know? How do we really measure it? Suppose our universe is just a molecule in a greater universe and suppose that that universe is simply a molecule in an even greater universe…on and on, one outside another, an unending Russian Doll? One 1960s author pictured the universe as a raindrop on the cape of a celestial gendarme who would, any time now, shrug his shoulders…
Both space and time seem incalculable to us.
So, was President Biden right in intimating that something that happened four or five days ago was too long ago to bother about? Or was he wrong?
But Someone, something, somewhere must keep the ultimate measure of time and distance. God? The Universe itself? Is God the Universe or is the Universe God?
Who knows?
We played a little game with our children when traveling. The usual question came along “are we there yet?” I’m not sure who was teasing who in the end but our reply was no, right now we’re ‘Here!’, too late, now we are ‘Here!’ and so it went on.
We will never be there.
I believe this is dealt with in religion. No, Christianity does not own religion.
For me time was always a perception, well not always!?!
Science is a process of questioning and even if something can be proven there could always be something comes along that requires everything to be recalibrated. Einstein’s theory of relativity where there is no “absolute” frame of reference is an example but there are others I am sure.
A comment was made of Hawking. A clever scientist but why did he promote AGW a deceptively crafted nonsense. I say that not because I am a scientist but the ‘honest’ science says quite clearly that AGW is not just a theory but a bad theory.
So man’s perception can be bent just like time. The great SF writers for me are more worthy. They use humanities greatest asset imagination. And is how humans will reach the stars.
I didn’t know Hawking promoted A.G.W.. Perhaps I was right in my suspicion that towards the end he was desperate for any funding he could get.
That is very sad.
So far as I know Einstein kept his integrity.
Great spirits have always encountered opposition from mediocre minds – Einstein.
Thank you very much Sonja. You have started a fascinating discussion.
I would like some follow up articles from you please.
Hawking said that there are 11 dimensions. We know that four expanded after the Big Bang. We’re the others always there?
Did he Roger? That’s interesting. I had a lot of time for Stephen Hawking until he became belligerently Anti God. He seemed to be saying that the Big Bang theory fully explained Creation so there was no need for God. May be it was others that argued that since time did not exist before the big bang there were no grounds for the argument that there has to be a First Cause.
Whatever, Hawking must have needed a lot of financial sponsorship for his medical care. He was undoubtedly a scientific genius and I still have much admiration for him.
I did not know that he posited 11 dimensions. I’ve often wondered about more dimensions than we are normally aware of.
Angels for instance. Surely they are not all figments of the imagination or lies.
I wonder why it was 11 dimensions and also could he ‘prove’ it.
I wonder if Hawking could have explained how something could have been created from nothing? Perhaps some other eminent physicist could provide an explanation.
Hear hear Jack Thomas. Nothing can come from nothing can it.
Pauline – Someone wrote it and some where I’ve read it: “The fool says there is no God”. That’s quite a mouthful, doncha think? Maybe it really does pay to read, remember and inwardly digest, as my old schoolmaster used to say.
I think it is somewhere in the Old Testament.
Not every one who denies the existence of God is a fool surely. That quotation could mean that it’s the sort of thing that fools tend to say.
It certainly does pay to read, remember and inwardly digest the Bible for all these questions are answered very clearly there by God himself. ‘In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.’ Genesis 1 verse 1 “The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God.’ Psalms 14 verse 1. And in the book of Job Chapter 38 verse 4 God answered Job and said, “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?….Who marked off it’s dimensions?… Who stretched a measuring line across it? I commend God’s word as truth that answers all our questions for all time and into eternity.
Roger, congratulations on your letter in this weekend’s Spectator Magazine!
Good stuff, Sonya. A few words in particular bounced out at me:
“We say”
“We measure”
“We judge”
Still don’t prove none of it true, do it? We also say without actually saying the words out loud: “I’m right, you are wrong.” What does that make us? Answers on a postcard please.
(PS: Grammar intentionally abused).
While we are on this sort of subject Michael. Can anyone tell me exactly what did happen to Douglas Adam?
Douglas Adam Died: May 11, 2001 (age 49) in Santa Barbara, California, USA
What of and what was he doing there? Oh I’ll look it up tomorrow.
Gosh, that’s a true Master Class for me Sonya many thanks for penning it.
It makes you value every second of time you have on this earth, pity we waste so much of it in sleep and other non- productive or antisocial enterprises.
It makes one humble to imagine each grain of sand lying so innocently in repose there, is actually working feverishly processing to its own destiny.
Sleep is never waste – sleep is rejuvenation, biological mental and spiritual. We neglect it at our peril.
Jim. Some of my best thinking is done in my sleep!
light travels approximately 86,000 miles in one second
Err, no.
You missed off a one – 186,000
BTW you give your age away by using God’s Own Units. Nowerdays, it is all EUMetric (spits).
Yes Biscotte and it drives me up the wall!
That’s right Biscotte, 186,000 miles a second which is 300,000 kilometres a second. Metres were invented in France during the French Revolution. One metre is supposed to be a fraction of the Earth’s circumference, maybe one forty millionth, I can’t remember now.
The trouble is, one of the French land surveyors measuring his part of the Earth’s circumference in France got his measurements & calculations wrong and kept quiet about it. So metres have been wrong from the start, and have never been what they’re supposed to be.
Oh jolly good Ralph. Inches feet and yards are much more convenient.