Our friends and helpers, protecting us from covid …
Well, there we are: yesterday BJ’s lockdown #3 received the retroactive agreement of our elected representatives, by 524 votes to 16. There were twelve (!) Tory MPs voting against – see their names here and see the names of all MPs who voted against here (scroll down a bit). It seems that the famed ‘covid rebels’ in the Tory Party have accepted the government’s justification for this lockdown. Sir John Redwood writes about hauliers this morning – that says it all.
The frightening aspects of this monumental cave-in are now coming into sight. One of them is the staggering scientific illiteracy of the MPs. Add to this their intellectual laziness, accepting pre-digested ‘data’ provided by government and NHS rather than even look at inconsistencies and plain manipulation. No matter how many times eminent scientists – not the ‘antivax trolls’ – have been pointing out the fallacies: the peacocks simply couldn’t be bothered …
After months of opinion makers in the MSM crying for ‘Teh Government’ in the form of BJ to ‘do something’, he now ‘did do something’ by prolonging lockdown #3 and using highfalutin metaphors to obscure that fact, telling the HoC:
“that restrictions would be lifted only “brick by brick” and people should not expect a mass relaxation of the rules when they were reviewed on February 15. “We are in a tough final stretch, made only tougher by the new variant,” he told the Commons. “Our emergence from the lockdown cocoon will not be a big bang but a gradual unwrapping.” (link, paywalled)
The gracious government is ‘cocooning’ us by trashing the economy and education, by damaging the health of the nation. I’m just waiting for BJ to tell us to look forward to that beautiful butterfly emerging once his lockdown #3 cocoon has been unwrapped! Any similarities in this announcement with the previous pronouncements by SAGE are of course purely coincidental. The peacocks in the HoC swallowed this whole – their feebleness is in plain sight here:
“The Prime Minister said laws governing the lockdown will stay in place until March 31 [as] senior Tories accused him of “surreptitiously” moving the date back after they were led to believe the laws would expire this month. Conservative backbenchers insisted Parliament be given a vote as often as once a fortnight on whether to continue the restrictions, as one former Cabinet minister said there was no “possible reason” to keep the lockdown going beyond mid-February.” (paywalled link)
Oh – but ‘reasons’ will be found, of that we can be sure! There is the issue of mass vaccination for starters. Government and NHS are going at this full tilt and sod any other health issues. See this:
“GPs have been instructed to “stand down” routine care and prioritise providing Covid vaccinations in a bid to ensure the NHS can deliver almost 14 million jabs by next month. Doctors have been given guidance saying that delivering the vaccine should be their “top priority”, with advice to “postpone other activities”. (paywalled link)
For us plebs this means: don’t dare to fall ill with anything during BJ’s ‘mass vaccination drive’. Why does this ‘drive’ remind me of practices known to students of the history of totalitarian states in the 20th century … Just like then, everything had to be sacrificed to ‘a monumental national effort’. Just like then, the lives of ordinary people didn’t matter.
That surely can’t happen here? It already has. The ONS has published the death statistics for the week up to Christmas – a week when two thirds of the nation were already in tier 4 lockdown:
“The number of excess deaths recorded by the Office for National Statistics in the week to Christmas Day was higher than the number of coronavirus deaths, provoking more fear over the impact of pressures on the NHS on care for other conditions. […] The ONS said that 11,520 deaths registered were in the week ending December 25. This was 3,566 deaths, or 45 per cent, higher than the five-year average. Of those, 2,912 mentioned Covid-19 on the death certificate. All regions of England had a higher number of deaths than usual for the seventh consecutive week.” (link, paywalled)
Note the nice sleight-of-hand here, sowing confusion about ‘covid deaths’ and ordinary deaths: are those 3,566 deaths ‘collateral damage’, are the 2,912 actual ‘covid deaths’ part of the whole 11,520 deaths? Who knows! A research fellow at Imperial college London had this to say, in impenetrable pseudo-scientific language:
“[…] the fact excess deaths were higher than deaths involving Covid-19 was “a very interesting but potentially worrying statistic”. He added: “It may suggest an increase in excess deaths [due to] indirect impacts of the pandemic upon health system pressures that impact care pathways for non-Covid-19 conditions.” (link, paywalled)
You don’t say! ‘Impacts’ are ‘impacting’? Well I nevah! Translated, this means that GPs and ‘Our Sacred Cow’ have indeed sacrificed, on the altar of ‘covid’, the health of those they ought to have protected. This will continue, as will the ‘cocoon’ of lockdown #3 because BJ’s vaccination drive will fail not just because there mightn’t be a sufficient number of doses – which have to be produced first, after all – but because ‘Our NHS’ isn’t going to let a mere PM dictate to them:
“The health service is not promising to vaccinate 13 million vulnerable people by mid-February, in spite of the prime minister’s pledge. The NHS says that it can promise only to offer the vaccine to priority groups, with the actual number vaccinated expected to be significantly lower.” (link, paywalled)
Yesterday we learned that one national group demanding to have their member be given priority access to the vaccine was the Police. The NHS must surely accede to their wishes given that their members are braving the hostile outdoor environment, heaving with covid, in order to keep us safe. After all, the MSM report today (see e.g. here or paywalled here) that the Met police will now fine anyone:
“Britain’s biggest police force is taking a new hardline approach to coronavirus lockdown breakers by actively stopping people on the street and requiring them to explain themselves. Officers from the Metropolitan Police will also routinely hand out fines to anyone found at illegal gatherings such as parties or raves. Previously enforcement action was generally limited to the event’s organisers. People found not wearing a mask when they should will not be “reasoned with” but fined, the force said.” (link, paywalled)
These ‘instructions’ from Scotland Yard are being replicated by police forces in the rest of England and Wales, with the chairman of the National Police Chiefs’ Council writing in an ‘exclusive’ for the DT that “there were few excuses for breaches because “everyone should now understand the rules in their area” (paywalled link). In other words: you know the rulz, so do as you’re told – ‘resistance’ is futile. How many of us muzzle refuseniks will now dare to go out when Plod won’t even listen to an explanation but will issue fines regardless?
And then there are the snitches … Lockdown Sceptics has a sad tale about a grasser-upper from rural England this morning (link) while the DM has a report from Wales (link). That ‘incident’ took place over Christmas when the police hadn’t yet been given ‘instructions’ to fine on sight. I’ll just observe in passing that it’s our ‘betters’, e.g. TV presenters and quango chiefs, who flaunt the rules – but that it’s always us peasants being blamed for our ‘irresponsibility’, especially by the Westminster MSM.
In conclusion, the covid MSM and the feeble MPs have handed Whitehall the instruments to enforce political rules which rob us of our freedoms. These instruments will be used in future because once a precedent has been created, it provides the pretext for applying it in other situations.
Meanwhile, the Times’ Mr Aaronovitch points out in his editorial today that the Kneeler offered Labour’s support for BJ’s lockdown #3:
“if the government were to propose emergency legislation to deal with disinformation which would “cost lives”. In response Mr Johnson thanked the Labour leader and pointed to a forthcoming “online harms” bill to deal with issues [‘anti-vaxxers’] such as these.” (link, paywalled)
One doesn’t need to have the brains of a political Einstein to recognise where this is going. The Thought Police will happily grab the instruments now being used by their colleagues to police lockdown ‘rule breakers’. Mr Aaronovitch writes next:
“Just before Christmas the government updated its online harms white paper. […] Its preamble notes that “illegal and unacceptable content and activity is widespread online, and UK users are concerned about what they see and experience on the internet”. So note the running together there of two entirely different categories: that which is illegal and that which is unacceptable. What is illegal is, in the end, an objective question. What is unacceptable is almost always subjective.” (link, paywalled)
Just so! Apologies for darkening your morning further, but recall that BJ is a greenie, and that, in accord with politicians in e.g. Germany, green blobbery is the next item on the agenda, ‘after covid’. I expect that these instruments, now handed to BJ and Whitehall by the supine peacocks, will be used against ‘climate deniers’.
Crying foul will be too late then, not least because the covid snitches will happily turn into ‘green’ snitches, supported by the greened-up covid MSM. After all, once we’ve been released from that lockdown#3 cocoon we surely want to stay alive and save the planet by sheepishly following the coming ‘green rulz’, don’t we! Haven’t we already shown our willingness to comply by obeying irrational ‘covid rules’ imposed on us without proper scrutiny?
For as long as we can and are permitted to, we will
KBO!
Why is there a need for the Quisling Farage Reform Party when there already exists UKIP which is prepared to do the will of the people and make England great again?
Well said Leonard.
I hate to say this but it does not matter how many alternative parties are created, without elections, and ones that are run properly and free from fraud, we are stuck with the rubbish we have got. For now…….
Our only hope is that Boris needs prosperity if he is to win elections and for that will need to release us – Meanwhile his continuing contempt for Farage in spite of the three routes to PM Farage provided shows what and who Boris really is – The first gift was when he joined Farage’s Leave Bandwagon at the last minute when its up tick gave an outside route to PM which he would have got but for backstabber in chief Gove – The second gift to Boris was when the Brexit Party smashed Treason May in EU and local elections – The third gift was when Farage stood down his troops to give Boris an 80 seat majority – No knighthood because Boris is really a Remainer as are 90% of the establishment and just overflow with eternal bitterness and contempt that one man could defeat their entire entitled cabal.
Lindsay, I can see what you are driving at, but Farage signed UKIP up to Leave.eu thinking that that organisation would be the one which would win the nomination from the electoral commission to lead the ‘Leave’ campaign. Johnson as you said joined the Leave campaign at the eleventh hour, the political opportunist that he he is, and fell in with Vote Leave, the organisation which did win the nomination to lead the Leave campaign. Regrettably it was predominantly Conservative backed, but was the most efficient and organised of the two organisations and made a very good job of the campaign. Most of us in Leave.eu switched allegiance to Vote Leave, but Farage never did so.
BJ is a greenie because. like donkey, he likes his oats.
ha ha HA HA ha Boom Boom!!!
Well Viv apologised for darkening our morning. So far the comments have made me feel even worse.
“The gracious government is ‘cocooning’ us by trashing the economy and education, by damaging the health of the nation.”
That ‘cocooning’ in my view is preparing us for truly Orwellian rule as intended by the UN and its globalist chums in the WEF. It will not end well until we resist by we need to recruit a good deal more sceptics to do so effectively.
As Freddie Attenborough says:
“As we’re all too grimly aware, of course, lockdown zealots have spent the past year detaching themselves from reality, and now ride ghost-trains nervously around funfairs that they’ve built in their own minds. Scrutinising what, for want of a better word, we must describe as the ‘logic’ of the plan they’ve devised for the rest of us, however, we find ourselves unimpressed. Angry, even. Enforced participation in a socially destructive, deeply dispiriting negative feedback loop consisting of brief stop-offs at eight endlessly recurring and all equally dismal staging posts is, after all, not everyone’s cup of tea. But there it is. That’s state power for you. The whip is cracked, the organ plays, and Lo! Our hamster wheels just keep on turning. Curtailment of civil liberties, anxiety, depression, white elephants masquerading as ‘Nightingales,’ insolvent businesses, undiagnosed tumours, rising unemployment… and so it goes, day after day. Sifting through the rubble of our national self-respect, cataloguing artefact after broken artefact, and wishing all the while that we could forget the roles we’ve been forced to play within this unreal, nightmare-like mode of existence. If nothing else, the following schematic representation of the circuitous route we’re taking around and around the disaster zone does at least have the merit of reminding us that any relics of the Old World you forget to mourn during one lockdown (livelihoods, businesses, free speech, TalkRadio’s YouTube channel, and so on), can always be picked up and honoured with a few tears the next time around.”
How true !!
Dishy Rishi found a money tree and after circa 9 months a UK recovery data tree has been found by the ONS and added to the Worldometer data.
(Must be a Bonsai tree!). Interestingly if one simply compares the number of deaths to the number of cases then:
China 5.3% (But unbelievably small number of cases)
UK 2.7% (Estimated ONS data but isn’t this the same for all data on this site?)
France 2.5%
Sweden 1.9% (Only just introduced the use of masks, what does that tell us!)
USA 1.7% (Despite minimal restrictions for many months)
New Zealand 1.14% (But only 25 deaths, their test & trace system is actually working)
Germany 0.15% (!!??)
Much of the data is unbelievable but it will be interesting to see what effect the UK vaccinations are estimated to have.
Keep BGO!
The link to the Daily Mail about the Metropolitan Police adopting ever more intimidatory tactics reveals that Mr Marsh of the Met Police Federation intends to ask people not wearing a mask to provide a letter from their doctor confirming that they have an exemption. Where is this change in the law noted? The latest government website continues to state that exemptions continue. Is this yet another example of the police making up the law as they go along?
The police are up to their old tricks enforcing guidance as law it seems. There is no restriction on how often you can go out for recreation or exercise or where. FPN’s are not fines as the police deviously claim. They are offers to settle if you wish.
The current rules are Tier Four for the whole country. You can find the details in Statutory Instrument 1611.
As amended by SI 2021 a couple of days ago strengthening them. Incredibly contorted for a purpose.
Oh and……….I’m fed up to the back teeth with Big Head and his constant and excruciating use of poor quality hyperbole instead of the Queen’s English in order to overawe us peasants and convince us that he knows best and the rest of us are too thick to see ‘the bigger picture’! Keith Waterhouse and Simon Heffer wrote articles and books decrying the use of poor English. Big Head should read them and learn!!!!! I’m still reading their books myself……!
In 2019 John Redwood published a book “We don’t believe you!” – Why Populists reject the Establishment. I bought this book. Now it would seem that John Redwood has gone over to the ‘Dark Side’. By voting to retain this iniquity of ‘Lockdown’ he has (in my humble opinion) forfeited any right to be viewed as an independent thinking ‘Conservative’. He has simply followed the (aptly named by Viv) ‘peacocks’ in their slavish pursuit of the unattainable! The unattainable being…..the extinction of a virus that was never going to be anything more than a serious flu (that mutates every year!!) that would – as in any other serious flu year – take out many who were very old and/or very sick already! It is impossible to ‘Put a Stopper in Death’!!!! (Apologies for the Harry Potter quotation!).
‘They’ are rushing to vaccinate these very old and sick people. I am not anti vaccine! I was vaccinated against polio, smallpox and tuberculosis myself. If vaccine can indeed be shown to help the very old and sick then hallelujah! However, this vaccine has been rushed out with unseemly and worrying haste. (I will not take it myself!) It appears that it cannot really protect those who take it and give the rest of us ‘freedom’. Why is this? Could it be because (like the flu vaccine every year) it depends on the ‘mix’ and whether it will cover the particular mutant strain that happens to be about at the time? I suspect that this is indeed the case and until more testing and results are available from the poor guinea pigs on whom it is currently being tested are available….no-one can really know for sure!
This whole COVID charade is nothing more than a cover for seizing total “power” and imposing the total dictatorship over the ‘serfs’ that the robber barons lost in Britain around five hundred years ago! The Peacocks have swallowed the hallucinatory drug of ‘power’ hook line and sinker! They believe their own publicity. Their blinkered vision and supreme arrogance has carried them behind the Pied Piper down the road to chaos! There are events playing out in America right now that we should all be watching very carefully!
Redwood is a Tory not a conservative and along with the rest of the “rebels” in the Covid Recovery Group etc. it is Party first, sod the rest. There appears to be a couple of proper Conservatives, whatever that may be nowadays, Swayne being perhaps the best, not sure about Brady but there is no chance of anyone of that ilk replacing the lump of a P.M. we are saddled with (yes I voted Tory for the very first time in 2019 and still cannot believe what an absolute mess he has created, I assume his PM string pullers didn’t think May was a convincing enough lier).
Time for the Tory party to go into terminal decline.
British politics as displayed by the current Parliamentary set-up is in terminal decline.
Thomas Jefferson said…….”When politicians fear the people, there is democracy. When people fear the politicians, there is tyranny”. (Apologies if the quotation isn’t quite word perfect. I’m quoting from memory!!!)
The people have been ‘educated’, over several decades now, to remain ignorant of the working of politics. Thus have the politicians, by ever increasing sleight of hand, given themselves power over us that should never have been possible had we all been open-eyed and vigilant as to the creeping and insidious tyranny in which we find ourselves today.
Until the advent of UKIP I had always been a conservative voter. To my shame I voted for Boris Johnson last December even though I felt an inherent distrust of both his personal integrity and his politics! To be quite frank, I now wonder whether the spectre of Corbyn would have been quite as bad as I had feared! As things stand I would not be able to vote for any of the candidates on any ballot sheet unless there was an independent or an anti-liblabcon alternative. So perhaps its as well that I wont be given the opportunity this May after all!!! I am convinced that this treasonous government will cancel elections again this year. Who knows whether we will be allowed to vote ever again!
I think they’ve already announced new delays to elections. Farage’s Reform Party has now been registered but it remains to be seen if he’ll do anything. His recent support for Blair is discouraging.
Support for Blair!!! Really! Please let me know where you acquired this information!! I’m not contesting your comment but I am interested to know how it came about. Whatever Nigel’s faults have been, I cannot understand why he would have anything to say to Blair!!!!
Frederica. Maybe Michael Newland is referring g to Nigel Farage’s tweet on 4 Jan,’ I do not agree with Tony Blair on much but he has led the debate on vaccinations well. Put him in charge of the vaccination programme and let’s have a government of all the talents to end this unmitigated disaster.’
Jim R. The Conservative Party is already in terminal decline. They obviously don’t realise or don’t really care that there is political tsunami on the horizon which is going to sweep them away. The mere fact that The Brexit Party has now rebranded to ReformUK SHOULD start to wake these total bozo’s up, but most of them are so arrogant and set in their ways or think they have a god given right to rule over us forever and a day, and prefer instead to look the other way and stick their fingers in both ears and repeat ‘I’m not listening, I’m not listening, I’m not listening da-de da-de-da’ ReformUK is not the only party seeking to take advantage of Conservative intransigence, and these include the Heritage Party, The Foundation Party, For Britain and SDP. Bye bye Conservatives, we are not sorry to see you go, and close the door behind you.
Thanks for that Colin. More than I knew. Had a look. Hope more parties can break the covid dictatorship but even starting in may is too long to wait.
Pauline……I forget to mention there is also UKIP and the various local ‘Independent’ parties borne out of the demise of UKIP, like the very successful Thurrock Independents and Swale Independents here in Kent, which now runs the authority I believe. There are some old Kippers there who are now part of the ruling cabinet. So it just goes to prove that it can be done if one is conscientious and sticks to a plan.
Nicely put Frederica, but is it not our own fault really?
By achieving Brexit, we have thrown the baby out with the bath water
For 40 odd years sovereignty (over virtually everything) had been with the junta of the EU. We were in effect ruled/controlled by a totalitarian dictatorship, who tried to pass it off as democratic..
They always regard criticism of the EU as illegal
Now that total sovereignty has passed back to this nation, well supposedly to the grass roots people of this nation, it is obvious to the “first receivers” (BJ and his cronies) that this Control/Power is there to be grabbed.
And grab it they have (apparently a German Chancellor once said to John Major ” Shon Shon you do not know how to contwol your peepul”)
So is it likely they are going to pay much/any attention to a collection of belly aching deniers?
I can see the point you are making. I don’t think you are anti-Brexit from what I have read of your previous comments (and did you really want to stay with the EU?). But….Is it really ‘our fault’? When we voted for BREXIT we voted for the concept of ‘freedom and sovereignty’ that had been discussed and portrayed, very articulately and persuasively by Nigel Farage, for years. Because we had taken our eyes off the political ball, as it were, we had not been assiduous in watching what our politicians had been doing. Preferring to leave them to manage our affairs in trust has proved to be akin to sowing the ground with salt!
I don’t want to start a fruitless discussion about the rights and wrongs and shortcomings of UKIP and Nigel Farage (subsequently allowing the BREXIT party to stand back to let Boris in). But I will say this. We have not been well served and we were left to flounder and watch in horror as those whose responsibility it was and whose sacred trust should have been, to protect the Nation State and its people from harm (I believe it is in the oath taken by Parliamentarians).
Frederica. I’m running out of energy for today so forgive me if I pick the wrong person or place to comment.
My main concern at the moment is that the Covid scamdemic has been used to impose Dictatorship. And there seems to be no way out.
N.F. and Reform UK seems to be concentrating on that issue more than the other alternative parties.
I think Lockdown Sceptics could and should, do more and be more effective. There should be loads of petitions up and running.
The P.M.s office should be bombarded with emails.
There should be more protests organised.
Pauline I agree with you. We are in the grip of a dangerous dictatorship! We do need a positive focus for our energies other than commenting amongst ourselves. Also, we do seem to be following multiple paths, rather than being able to tread the same road of determination. I hope that someone, somewhere will provide that necessary focus soon, so that we can all gather around the banner. At the moment it is all so fragmented and it is difficult to decide where to place ones support. When UKIP was in the ascendancy and before it was hi-jacked, there was an alternative focus. We are now waiting for a determined ‘leader’ to provide the rallying point once again for our endeavours!
Pauline, the Heritage Party which will be standing candidates around the country in the local elections is also very hot on Covid 19 strategies and the Lockdown issue, but also has a whole slate of other policies in their manifesto. The electorate needs to start wising up and checking out this and other political parties which offer an alternative view to what is being thrust down our throats on a daily basis.
Frederica since writing my original comment which as you detected was meant with a certain amount of irony, I have read your comprehensive and excellent open letter so am unwilling to dice with you too deeply, other than to point out that it is a well known phrase that one should take a long spoon when supping with the devil
But there does seem toe something amiss in the collective British psyche that allows the mass endlessly to seemingly not value hard won national freedoms . When we were out on the streets and in the market place fighting the referendum there was virtually no understanding of Magna Carta and its connections with ha ears corpus and the differences between that and Corpus Juris knowledge was completely non-existent.
I must admit personally until I joined UKIP in 2009 nor was I aware and yet I had heard of World Government in 1961/2 and was against the proposed Common Market because of what we would be required to do with trade for the Commonwealth.
Since joining UKIP I have heard/learned of Coudenhove–Kalergi, the 1995 Barcelona Declaration (and subsequent additions), the Marrakesh agreement on Immigration, Davos having meaning beyond saying and so on.They’ve probably all been mentioned in the news at one time or another, but by and large very few people know of many or any of the nuances of our EU membership.
I don’t know why our senses to danger are less attuned than the average deer or rabbit cocking up its ears, but we all know the words snake oil salesmen or even con merchants but we ALWAYS fall for it, even thank the man for conning us.
So perhaps we do deserve what we get.
Oh! and if we had lost the referendum, I’d be out there fighting for the next one now – our cause was right and I would never have accepted the result – but that’s me and possibly 5/10 per cent of the population
Typo apologies Habeas Corpus.
There does seem to “be” something amiss
Roger, you might not read this as it is now late but….I agree with you about the ’mass’ but….in their defence I would point out that over the recent decades it has been actively discouraged for them to be involved in politics for anything other than to fulfil the function of voting fodder!
When I was at grammar school, we had a school council. Each form elected a member to represent them at the council meetings (held on Friday after school ended and tea was provided!!). Thus, school matters of procedure and administration were discussed and disseminated back to the forms. We also had committees that were involved in the day to day running of school affairs ie library committee; housekeeping committee and so on. Every form member belonged to a committee and one period a week was given over to committees which always included practical operations – not just a talking shop!.
As a matter of routine when we reached the fifth form and upward, there was always time allowed for current affairs discussion and we were introduced to the workings of Magna Carta and its ramifications (in easy to understand and not too in-depth form I admit!)
When I look back on my school years (state education – not private) I marvel at the breadth of the education that was on offer but which we mostly took for granted and did not truly appreciate until much later in life!
Frederica The Tory Party has ( as long as I can remember) always allowed a few Tory MPs to humour the centre right voters and members on topics such as being tough on immigration, law and order etc. But when it comes to the crunch they usually back the Party line rather than become an independent or cross the floor.
Enoch Powell was a rare exception that put principle before party. Don’t laugh at me but Douglas Carswell does not get the praise he deserves as he put country before party too.
Jake you may never read this because it is late in the day and I know you’ve all got ‘lives’ outside the commenting arena!!!! However, suffice it to say that I agree with the ‘party line’ assessment. We the voters are probably guilty of allowing them so much leeway to act without censure from us……!
But I cannot allow Enoch Powell (whom I admired greatly and whose life story sits proudly upon my bookshelves) to be mentioned in the same breath as Douglas Carswell. Powell had an integrity of character that most politicians wouldn’t even recognise if it bit them! He was an egotist but his political principles and beliefs were solid. Carswell, in my estimation, was a self-server who was seeking a political niche far higher than he actually merited. He sacrificed integrity for ambition! I dare say we shall have to agree to disagree on this one! Best wishes. F
Frederica I agree Carswell is no Powell but I only mentioned Carswell because he was a true believer in the Brexit cause and paid a huge price for crossing the floor. John Redwood for all his bluster on Brexit never put his job on the line, nor did Bill Cash, David Davis or any of the other so called Tory Brexiteers. Had the aforementioned joined UKIP like Carswell and Reckless the Tories may have delivered the clean Brexit that we all voted for. The defection of these two gave the Brexit cause a huge boost in preparation for the referendum.
Jake..Agreed, as did Mark Reckless in Rochester and Strood as well. In my opinion more should have been done to accommodate Douglas Carswell within UKIP, and who knows it may have not gone the way it did.
“Lockdown 3 – Revenge of the Saffers”. What a crap movie franchise. Fathead is a rubbish director. .