5th of November … remember remember …
This is what the conniving knaves in the HoC have achieved: we’re five days away from leaving according to the Law while Johnson is trying to sell his GE and Corbyn is trying to stop him. Skulduggery is afoot.
Above all, it has now come to this: that we Leavers have to rely on M Macron of all people! He is – so far – not willing to agree to another extension unless Corbyn and Parliament show willingness to go to the country. That means voting for Johnsons GE. More on that below.
Instead of gossip from ‘sources’ in No 10 there are some disturbing reports which have come straight from Tory and Labour horses’ mouths, these ‘horses’ being MPs with a score to settle. They are united in preventing Brexit by every means possible and to avoid a GE.
Before I go into details, keep in mind that all of these Brexit wrecker MPs know full well that they will lose their seats, that is: their place at the trough, should there be a GE. Their purpose isn’t to save us ignorant voters from a fate worse than death, like ‘crashing out’ with No Deal. It is to save their own skins, to stay on as MPs until this Parliament of knaves and connivers finally runs its course in 2022. It’s not just ‘people versus parliament’, it is ‘MPs versus their own constituents’.
Today and especially tomorrow we’ll be treated with TV ‘performances’ by those harlots, telling us about their ‘concern’ for our welfare and why they see themselves being forced to stop Brexit, to stop Johnson and to stop a GE. In truth, how can they trust us voting ‘the right way’ when they have been telling us for over three years that we, the electorate, are thick and ignorant! We didn’t know what we voted for in 2016, and we’re obviously still too ignorant now to know what’s best for us.
It has escaped their notice that we have watched them displaying their own ignorance and stupidity in the televised debates, especially those in the past week. Thus we read that Tory MPs were meeting the Tory Whips, telling him they wouldn’t Johnson’s vote for a GE:
“Remain-backing Tory MPs have warned the Chief Whip that the government’s Brexit plans will lead to “terrorist activity” on the streets of the UK. At least 20” Tory MPs led by former deputy prime ministers David Lidington and Damian Green have also threatened to vote against Boris Johnson’s push for a December 12 general election. On Thursday a group of 41 “One Nation” Tory MPs met the deputy Chief Whip, Amanda Milling. […]. In a meeting which lasted about an hour, half of the MPs present made explicit threats that they do not want an election this year. They argued the election should only happen after Brexit is done, with a number also warning that Mr Johnson’s deal as it could spark unrest in Northern Ireland.” (paywalled link)
Note that first sentence! They don’t mean that we Leavers will start rampaging through the streets – they ‘only’ mean that NI ‘terrorists’ might go back to the bad old days. Arlene Foster, Leader of the DUP, had this to say:
“When Leo Varadkar talked about the possibility of dissident violence along the border, if there were any border infrastructure piece, I thought that was wrong. I said so at the time. […] And that unfortunately now has set a precedent […]That’s wrong. That is not the way forward.’ (link)
Read the whole thing, it’s not paywalled. But the Brexit wreckers need another item in the Project Fear Campaign, so the threat of ‘violence’ seems to be the next ‘reason’ of choice.
On the other side, Corbyn, still dithering, is again setting up conditions which Johnson must meet, e.g. ‘No Deal’ must be off the table. Those Labour demands – they are still being debated in Labour circles – are outrageous:
“Last night an ally of Mr Corbyn suggested that one option being explored is to force through legislation which meant that no deal was no longer the default position in domestic law. Instead, Labour would seek to “extend the principle of [the] Benn [Act”, the legislation passed by MPs last month, to prevent the UK from ever leaving without an agreement if a Brexit deal has not been ratified.” (paywalled link)
It doesn’t need a political mastermind to predict that such manoeuvre would be happily supported by the Letwins, Grieves and Rudds. After all, they fight for their own economic well-being, to stay with their trotters in the trough. The next Labour ‘proposal’ being mulled over is even more outrageous:
“Another senior Labour figure suggested that a so-called “rolling extension” could require the Prime Minister to request a delay if the UK comes within 28 days of an extension elapsing. Such a move could see Brexit delayed indefinitely, providing that EU leaders continue to agree to move back the deadline.” (paywalled link)
They are seriously pondering such ‘solutions’ instead of working on how best to get on with Brexit! There’s more:
“Another option would be to require Mr Johnson to amend his deal so that the transition period is automatically extended by up to two years if the UK is unable to sign a trade deal with the EU in time. This would prevent the UK from transitioning to World Trade Organisation terms in December 2020, described as a “stealth no deal” by Remainer MPs.” (paywalled link)
Anything but to face us voters! That proposal would please the EU no end. Don’t forget that this is in Johnson’s WAIB, as a barrister explained in this video (from about 9 minutes in).
There’s another plot being cooked up. This is about somehow getting their desired 2nd Referendum on the table and onto the statute books:
“Rebel alliance MPs are plotting to try and force a vote on the second referendum or customs union as early as next week rather than giving in to Boris Johnson’s election demands.” (link)
Trying to abuse the power they have thanks to Johnson’s minority government – but facing us, their constituents? Oh no! Charles Moore in the DT thinks out loud and points out this possibility:
“Although Mr Bercow has promised he will leave his post on October 31, he is perfectly free to stay on. Knowing him, one suspects his ego will find the temptation irresistible. Then he might allow MPs to vote to decide the date of an election, or he might prevent the Government from repeatedly moving motions calling for an election, or whatever takes his fancy. Mr Speaker will indulge every anti-Brexit MP long skilled in spinning things out. The least that Boris can do is to expose this chicanery, and keep reminding the public who is denying them their rights.” (paywalled link)
Yes, well – we do know who is denying us our rights! Johnson is the last person we need to point this out, given his disastrous WAIB. It is humiliating that we Leavers must now pin our hopes on M Macron, of all people, who is so far holding out against an extension:
“France is ready to force Britain to the brink of a no-deal Brexit unless Labour and the House of Commons agree to a general election or ratify Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal on Monday. President Macron yesterday moved again to block a three-month extension, forcing the EU to begin preparations for an emergency summit on October 30.” (link, paywalled)
Macron is the weakest of reeds to rely on. How serious the EU Leaders are taking this though is illustrated by the fact that they are conferring in secret and nobody in Brussels knows how this will end. There’s more:
“Europe’s leaders are on stand-by for a crisis meeting of the European Council in the 24 hours before Britain is due to leave the EU at 11pm on Hallowe’en. […] While Mr Macron is expected to concede at the eleventh hour next week, potentially to a shorter extension in November, his tactics are seen as putting no-deal back on the table as the EU’s patience runs out. Many European capitals now regret past tactical alliances with Remain campaigners such as Hilary Benn, the Labour MP whose legislation forced the present extension debate.” (link, paywalled)
Serves them right! Politicians, here and on the Continent, have shown us all that they are a weak, cowardly lot who are not prepared to boldly take the opportunity offered by Brexit. They’d sell principles and freedom for a few more weeks and months at the fleshpots. That’s not a modern phenomenon – it’s been reported in the Bible.
To round this up, here’s the real reason why Labour doesn’t want a GE in December:
“Labour is believed to be particularly concerned that a poll outside of university term time would have a negative impact on the party’s turnout in key student towns and cities.” (paywalled link)
God forbid that anything would prevent Labour losing an opportunity to finagle election results to their advantage!
We’re governed by a bunch of feeble, conniving knaves with no other aim than preserving their skin, their highfalutin’ words notwithstanding – all of them, from that lot in No 10 to the lot on the opposition benches. They seem to think that the polls showing TBP hovering below the LibDems is cast in stone. It isn’t. No Brexit on Halloween will cost the establishment parties dearly.
We Brits may not rampage on the streets – but we do know how to use the ballot boxes. The EU Parl elections should have been a warning to the knaves in Parliament … and btw, it’s only 10 days to Guy Fawkes night …!
KBO!
I sincerely believe that violence will eventually be necessary to get a real Brexit and that it would be morally justifiable.
Enoch Powell was right. I wish Edward Leane was right too. I agree with him about that letter. Any sensible person or lawyer with integrity (are there any?) would agree with him. But AGAIN it is the EU we are dealing with.
Enoch Powell said, nearly 40 years ago:
”There is a name for appealing over the head of the Crown to an authority outside the realm, and that name is treason. The word may be disused, but the thing is not; and the penalties of praemunire, which those guilty of it formerly incurred, were not disproportionate to its seriousness.”
What a pity we can’t look forward to those guilty of this receiving their just deserts.
The Money Where Your Mouth Is Voting (Betting):-
MONTH OF NEXT GENERAL ELECTION
2020 or later 2/5; December 2019 15/8
UK TO LEAVE THE EU ON OR BEFORE 31/10/2019
No 1/50; Yes 10/1
NO DEAL BREXIT IN 2019?
No (Withdrawal Agreement is ratified, Article 50 extended beyond 2019 or Article 50 revoked)
1/33;
Yes (UK leave the EU in 2019 without Withdrawal Agreement in place)
10/1
A second In/Out EU Referendum to take place before end 2020
No 1/3; Yes 2/1
A very good video and an excellent reason to leave the European Union.
“We Were Never Asked”
https://youtu.be/JDOW2refPPU
A must watch video!
Brilliant but those opposed to the invasion need to speak out at every opportunity and to hell with those who might call us “racist”.
For Leavers and Boris Johnson the options are now down to one …… leave with no deal on 31st Oct ……… unless the government is ousted.
An unsigned “request” on unautherised paper is not worth the paper it is written on, especially when its source has no State authority. That is why the EU is trying to pretend they will grant an extension but they are waiting for the amount to be specified (very clever). It has nothing to do with Mr Macron.
If we are forced into a second referendum, there must not be a Remain option on the paper. We voted leave therefore any options available must reflect this, and if get to that stage, we must continually make this point, and strongly, if necessary by court action even though the courts are stacked against us. Any adverse decisions by them would be further evidence (if any were required) of the breakdown of democracy in this country.
The EU have shown blatent disregard for the principles outlined in their treaties (ie good faith) and I am sure that other countries will note this in their dealings with them. They have damaged themselves in the process.
Whatever happens, when we eventually get some kind of stable government, arrangements must be made to prevent this situation ever arising again, particularly removing the possibility of the speaker going rogue again, and the establishment of a clear feedback link to the people on parliamentary performance. We must have the power to decide who represents us at all times, even down to recall of individual MPs who renage on their manifesto promises without good reason, and certainly for switching parties.
It is unacceptable that individuals and parties can do a 180 degree turn on major manifesto promises and still ‘represent’ their voters.
A national strike would be good until they get it done. I have always said they should never rile up the silent majority because that will bring them down and that is imminent. Shameful.
Trouble is Hez, you would never get a national strike, the population is far to busy driving aimlessly around all day , drinking coffee in cafe’s in supermarkets and retail outlets. There are so many people driving around towns and cities these days it makes one wonder if anyone is at work . Petrol hit 131.9 a litre here in town this week and 136 for diesel, both higher than for some time in this part of the U.K not that it seems to bother anybody as the zoom around. But you are quite correct judging by the conversations I’ve had and heard this week something is again stirring and it’s mainly women I’ve noticed who are the most vocal and angry, maybe the men are more interested in the footie.
I know Norman but what should employers do (us) when their employees(parliament) refuse to carry out their instructions? We have given them 3 warnings (election 2017, local elections, EU elections) and they still ignore us. I say Instant dismissal, box and door, and a full on recruitment drive (election) soonest.
Macron is the weakest link! Here’s the latest from our friends of facts4eu:
“In a sudden move which we have not seen reported in the UK press, a virtually unknown body called the “EU Parliament’s Conference of Presidents” wrote to President Tusk of the EU Council on Thursday, stating that the Council should grant a Brexit extension to 31 Jan 2020.
Crucially, the condition of a commitment to a General Election was not included, despite the contradictory statement from EU Parliament’s Brexit Co-Ordinator Guy Verhofstadt just two days earlier.”
Do read the whole article – and ponder why it is that our MSM, with their many Brussels sources and correspondents, somehow overlooked this …
The EU wants to keep us in the bloc under any circumstances at all so if they start laying down conditions, they know Boris only has to reject the conditions to get out. And as far as Verhofstadt is concerned, his statement that “What we will not do is to give an extension without any purpose.” is absolute rubbish. They’ll give us extension after extension because as long as Brexit is extended we’ll keep paying into the EU coffers. And we all know we haven’t got a say in lawmaking on the Continent.
As Corbyn has now changed his tune to say he won’t agree a GE until no-deal is off the table, we probably won’t have a GE until 2022, when the next is due under the FTPA. And there’s a good chance we won’t be out before then.
What will Boris do now? That’s the 39 billion pound question.
I think there’s a much bigger reason than the UK’s money for “them” not wanting us to leave. Like the EU being a blueprint and a stepping stone to an unaccountable, undemocratic and unmovable One World Government!
They would spin on a sixpence if it meant keeping the ball in the air a few months longer and the money continuing to flow, and on the Micawber principle of always expecting ‘something to turn up’ (in their favour of course.)
What a shameful debacle. We are now waiting for our EU masters to decide our fate once again. We don’t need their permission to leave. Yet another extension contrived by our Remainiac collaborators to wear us down some more by demonstrating how difficult it is to leave and that resistance is futile. Leave seems to be disappearing from the agenda, the choice now being BRINO or Remain. Boris’ “New” Deal is not Brexit. This once proud country used to be a democracy admired worldwide, but has now been turned into a disgraceful sham where the electorate are even denied a GE. These careerist, self-important, hypocritical MPs should hang their heads in shame at the disrepute they have brought upon us.
“Remember, Remember, the 1st of November”,……..that should have been our Independence Day.
Audio only:
https://youtu.be/riy5WbN5nKU
Wrong it should have been in 2016
I’ve actually stopped following this stuff for now, either we leave on the 31st or we don’t, I don’t need to watch the BS between now and then.
“Remain-backing Tory MPs have warned the Chief Whip that the government’s Brexit plans will lead to “terrorist activity”
If we don’t leave on the 31st then maybe it’s time that we all became terrorists, then at least the remainers will have been right about something.
The “Good Friday Agreement” would never have come about without the activities of the IRA and this is a far more serious matter. It may well come down to a choice between suppression for evermore or a fight for our freedom.
How come the French can sing, in the Marseillaise, “aux armes, citoyens !”, but if we do it we’re liable to be done for sedition ? And if push comes to shove, PC Plod can nowadays call on the assistance of EU robocops.