It’s the ‘morning after’ and now that the smoke and fury has somewhat dissipated, what do we see on the battlefield that was yesterday’s Brexit Betrayal? Brexit delayed, but not yet defeated.
The most significant political corpses are those of Messrs Jacob Rees-Mogg, Boris Johnson and Dominic Raab besides that of Ms May, whose ‘deal was defeated yet again (344 Noes to 286 Ayes).
We all remember the ringing words, expressed in such a plummy voice with such dazzling rhetoric and astounding intellectual reasoning, by the chairman of the ERG, Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg. He said, repeatedly, that he’d stand with the DUP. He would support Ms May’s WA with a very heavy heart, but would take his cue from the DUP.
The DUP stood firm – watch the clip of Nigel Dodd yesterday in the HoC – and what did JRM do? He voted for Ms May’s abomination! And so did BoJo, and so did Mr Dominic Raab.
We were puzzled by this blatant turncoatery. But there is a simple explanation. Many Tory MPs (remember: they are mostly Remain) think that Ms May must go now and that only a ‘Leaver Leader’ can rescue Brexit. We saw yesterday that a handful of Tory cabinet ministers were already jockeying for position – I mentioned them here. This three-man cabal wants BoJo!
For JRM, nothing is as important as his beloved Tory Party – not Brexit, not the Nation. His mind was made up, his support for the DUP just another instance of smoke-and-mirrors. This was obvious because the speeches of two of his ERG colleagues had no effect on him whatsoever.
One speech was by Sir Bill Cash who spoke excellently as Chairman of the EU Scrutiny Committee. Here is a brief clip, an answer on the question of the Backstop. The other was by Sir John Redwood – watch him here – who came to a totally different conclusion on the same question faced by JRM. Nobody can say that JRM must have been ignorant of these views. Btw, do read Sir John Redwood’s Diary entry for today!
Interestingly, when JRM was straining every sinew in his radio show on LBC yesterday evening to elicit agreement from the phone-ins for his plan, it became obvious that his fulsome EUrosceptic mask hid the usual untrustworthy Tory politician. That mask has now been dropped irretrievably.
But why should we care, you might now ask yourselves. Because Ms May, in her closing statement, hinted at a possible GE (paywalled report). That’s a bit like mummy threatening her toddlers that the bogeyman will come and get them if they don’t behave, and she knows, just as we know, that a GE would be the death of the Tory Party. Will she, like JRM put the fate of her Party before her ego though and go now? I doubt it!
Meanwhile, one of the architects of the actual Remain ‘rebellion’ has bit the dust. Dominic Grieve’s constituency Party expressed ‘no confidence’ in him yesterday (here and here). Not that it matters for the time being. He’s not yet deselected and won’t stand in a new GE anyway. But that’s the way the wind is now blowing.
It’s also blowing hard for Labour – see this assessment – so one wonders if the speculations of the MSM’s political pundits about this latest Project Fear, a GE, has much basis in reality.
Let’s see what is likely to happen next. First up – the EU. Mr Tusk was off the blocks immediately the result was in:
“The European Commission has warned in an extraordinary summit today today that Britain is ‘likely’ to crash out of the bloc without a deal. A spokeswoman for the bloc’s executive branch warned that the EU is now ‘fully prepared’ for a no-deal scenario, which would strike at midnight on April 12 if the UK hasn’t agreed a deal. […] Now European Council President Donald Tusk has given the Prime Minister just 10 days to draw up an alternative plan for an orderly Brexit by April 8, when she will be asked to present it to her 27 EU colleagues at the emergency summit.” (link)
Note well that the EU is using ‘No Deal’ as a threat. One might ask if they are ignorant of the preparations for a No Deal made here in the UK, but I doubt it. It’s the EU playing on the fear of Ms May and the remainers.
It cannot be repeated often enough: the EU is officially prepared for a No Deal – but so is the UK! Read all about it here! Lord King, the former governor of the Bank of England, is not precisely an economic dummy …
Why our PM, our government, our MPs are so sh*tscared (excuse my French!) of a No Deal is simply inexplicable. Ask your MPs, they’re all in their constituencies this weekend. This is especially intriguing and important since we read in the (paywalled) DT that
“Cabinet ministers will attempt to take control of Brexit by telling Theresa May it is “time to embrace no deal” after her EU Withdrawal Agreement was rejected by MPs for a third time. Mrs May will hold a conference call with ministers on Sunday night amid calls for a Cabinet vote on how to proceed.”
Oh – so a No Deal is possible after all? But hold yer horses – next week will have to be navigated first.
On Monday, Sir Oliver Letwin will, with the permission of the Speaker, try again to ‘take control’, fielding more amendments. These are likely to be about keeping us in the Customs Union and the Single Market (paywalled link):
“If more than one option gets a majority, MPs will need to decide whether to hold a run-off or whether the option that won the most support goes through. Sir Oliver Letwin, who spearheaded the process, has suggested that he will then move to take control of the parliamentary timetable on Wednesday and allow MPs to pass a bill compelling the government to go to the EU and negotiate including the chosen option within the political declaration. The EU has said it is willing discuss either of the top two options.”
Of course the EU would!
But that’s not the end of the skulduggery by any means. Just look at this:
“A tentative plan being discussed in Downing Street is to have a fourth shot at a so-called meaningful vote — pitting Mrs May’s deal against the most popular alternative.The hope would be that, when forced to choose between a softer Brexit and the prime minister’s deal, the remaining Brexiteers would fall in line behind the government for fear of something worse.” (paywalled link)
This is how our ‘betters’ strive to keep us in the EU: run-off voting as if it were a beauty contest, with Ms May’s deal getting a fourth (!) bite at the cherry.
That the May BRINO treaty was defeated again – that Leavers had congregated en masse from all over the country – that MPs were preparing to face the fury of their remain constituents: irrelevant! The blame game is already in full swing: it’s the staunch Brexiteers in the ERG who are the sole culprits that Brexit hasn’t happened. Here’s an example report.
While the pundits and their sources are desperately scrabbling in the gossip gutter for every little piece of ‘indicative’ news to serve up on telly and in their papers, it is perfectly clear to this here ignorant peasant that they have lost the plot. They are frit. They are cowards. No deal is possible. No deal is what we want.
Look at the non-paywalled reports of the Leave rally – with lovely photos – here and here. Parliament staff and MPs were told to leave early and using ‘secret’ exits (see here)!
Funnily enough, MPs like Kate Hoey, Ian Paisley, Peter Bone had no difficulties to get to the Leave stage for their speeches. It is the Mays the Grieves, the JRMs and indeed the Corbyns who have to fear the ire of us – an ire which is so far verbal.
But as the masks have now dropped, as we all see the mechanics of their betrayal, things may change. Meanwhile, do as Peter Bone MP told the Leave crowd: email your MP and demand answers!
Dominic Grieves’ local tory party may well have passed a vote of no confidence, but that’s not the same as being ‘deselected’. A tory party chairman Brandon Lewis pointed out on Saturday’s ‘Today’ programme, it’s Conservative Central Office that holds that power, not the local party group. So much for MPs being the servants of the people !
The ‘darkest hour is just before dawn’ and we are now in that darkest hour. Theresa May and her Remain Cabinet have never believed in ‘BREXIT means BREXIT’ just damage limitation designed to leave the UK tied as closely as possible with a view to rejoining the EU in the near future.
None of the parties want a General Election, particularly the TIG who would face a wipe out.
The odds are that Ken Clarke’s Customs Union will get a majority on Monday, hence Barnier;s message on Friday right on cue. and adopted by May to reuquest a longer extension. But that means participation in the EU elections.
We may even see the Confirmatory Vote accepted meamning we would be given a ‘choice’ of Customs Union or Remain, nothing in fact for the 17.4m Leave voters and I cannot see that going down well at all.
The question is will May be prepared to strike out her key red lines so easily when she knows it will destroy the Tory Party come the next General Election?
The only logical choice now is No Deal or No BREXIT and revoking Art 50 with the latter resulting in a serious political realignment with BREXIT defining UK politics for a generation. It will no longer be Tory or Labour but Leavers versus Remainers.
Ironically, ‘the dawn’may well come from am unexpected source, as with the ERM debacle in the 1990s, it may well be Brussels that forces the UK out now they beleive they are well prepared for a No Deal scenario.
The most absurd vote by far ist that for the “NODeal” Option.
It is quite the same as if they would vote for not to die.
Since yesterday It is over and done.
What else but a nodeal-brexit should happen?
EU states leaders are fed up to the back teeth of discussion about brexit, so do the European peoples and EU will never allow UK attending the EU votes in may.
So sit back, have a drink and enjoy yourself.
Vivian, I have done several flow charts and logic diagrams.Also Yes /no/ maybe/neither/both
Nothing is certain. Mrs May changes the rules, Speaker changes the ruls, many are obviously lying, Many others are not so obviously lying, Non meaningfull votes. The vast majority now trying to plot a course. Others erratic. Others just following others or orders.
. All this is planned to not be transparant and therefore complete and cynical fait accompli can be expected
Mrs May is not clever enough.
It is clearly designed and being carried out by Civil Service.
It depends on whether the civil service are true to their Queen , The EU., or the people they serve.
Indeed TG, but not helped by May being a serial liar. That alone, which is clearly provable, should be enough to see her sacked and humiliated.
I feel quite angry – why are almost all of the photos accessible from this post of the Leave means Leave faction and not the UKIP rally?
One of the speeches from the UKIP stand yesterday made it clear that we are already well on the way to full military unification with the EU. The implications for NATO are serious. Once there are only EU armed forces (no national forces) methinks it will only be a matter of time before there is a parting of the ways with America over some issue or other. After all the EU is already much more like Communist China than it is like America.
We should remember that what the EU tells us is often opposite of what’s true, like ‘the EU project will make it safer for everyone as it will eliminate wars in Europe’.
Err no, NATO’s been doing that.
But don’t worry, Guy Verhofstadt will keep us all safe!
I’ve never been to the States, but from reading Zero Hedge I get the impression that the US is becoming as socialist and totalitarian as the EU is going to be.
The b—-h will probably try to wheel out her abominable WA Treaty for 4th time next week ? But even it it got voted through, the Withdrawal Agreement Bill would still need to be voted on. John Redwoods Diary yesterday says “The government also refuse to publish the Withdrawal Agreement Bill, presumably because it would show just how controlled by the EU we would be if we were stupid enough to sign it”.
Any chance we could push for publication now? ( NOT another useless petition though )
The charade goes on…and… on…and….. on. Another round of indicative votes on Monday with Ken Clarkes proposal tipped to be the favourite. This quote by Ken Clarke in 1996 shows where we are headed, “I look forward to the day when the Westminster Parliament is just a Council Chamber in Europe”. Is this really what the Remainers want ? The current situation is showing that we’re halfway there already. That’s why we want out.
I recommend watching Owen Paterson’s speech here:
https://twitter.com/OwenPaterson/status/1111623219432296449
Horrible isn’t it, you just know there will be another stitch up in the pipeline, anything but give the people what hey voted for. I’ve had enough for a while however and I’m getting p*ssed and intend to remain that way until Monday.
According to the Daily Wail ( Tim Sculthope ) if the ERG rebels had voted with May she would have been only two short of it’s passing, so the ERG have cost us Brexit! But not to worry apparently May is going for a 4th Vote after some more indicative votes because the defeat this time was by only 58 votes.
As for Mr. Posh, is anyone surprised? Time as they say to really drain the swamp which must be getting twitchy, while all this goes on the monarchy still does photo shoots in Cuba, and Brenda stays quiet has she got laryngitis?
Further to that spectre of “No Deal’, ‘crashing out’, and how “we” are not prepared:
I’ve subscribed to receive Government notifications about Brexit. Yesterday and today I received 59 (!) such notifications, the last 50 or so all translated into foreign languages, providing a’tool kit’ for EU citizens who want to stay, live and work in the UK after Brexit. And that’s just yesterday and this morning.
Tha we cannot leave on a No Deal because we’re not prepared is a lie.
I am extremely disappointed in Jacob Reece Mogg. I thought he was a man of principle. He said he would vote in line with the DUP. He went back on that pledge. He chose evil. One cannot choose an evil act for a good.
Mrs May’s offer to resign in exchange for backing her deal is a disgraceful insult to the whole process. Does parliament have any principles at all? Is her position up for sale? In exchange for her deal? Where is truth and honour in all this?
If she had any honour she would have resigned a long time ago. But no she worships the god of her career and her prideful ”stubborness’.
Where are the politicians of principle?
Good news. We still have some. Our nation will be saved by a handful of loyal democrats.
A lot of people are getting angry. On the march from Fulham many wanted to talk some very passilonately (angrily). There were little pockets of Remainers sneering and taunting. The damage caused by those excuses for politicians is immense. Perhaps it is wishful thinking but I suspect more are realising the danger the country is in. An the illogical arguments. Economics was never the main reason the British voted to leave.
The control of the MSM is a major problem.
I personally find it all depressing. That told as I tired from the journeying and the March.
They cannot change who we are. Eventually there will be a GE. That will be the final nail and there is still lots that can be done by us.
As this continues there will be a tipping point. Whatever happens the whole humiliating process is underming the control of the HoC and the MSM. Nothing will be the same again.
I’m in total agreement with you Kim, but it’s warm and sunny today and it would seem that for the most part the masses are out and about buying ‘stuff’ before going back to their slumbers I can’t see there being any change after another G.E there is no will to hold one and the only way to get one is for a majority of troughers to vote for one and I can’t see that happening anytime soon.
if you believe anything that woman says you are not of sound mind