Today at 11.01pm GMT the champagne corks should’ve been popping. There should have been dancing in the streets. EU flags should have been lowered. Tonight, we should have been Out, the long road from our victory on June 23rd 2016 should finally have come to an end.
Instead, we have yet another attempt by Ms May to get her WA through Parliament. The reports and articles in this morning’s MSM are full of scare stories. Some are indeed frightening, but these are reports on what the EU is doing – something our remainers in the HoC, in the MSM and especially outside Parliament, busily overlook. I shall come to that in a moment.
First though: at 9.30 am today, the debate on Ms May’s motion will commence in the HoC. Mark that in your diaries!
In a fine act of finagling, Ms May got round the Speaker’s rule to disallow voting on her WA for a third time unless there was a substantial change, by splitting off the accompanying ‘Political Declaration’.
Yes, that’s a change all right! The speaker had to agree because he’d just overturned his own ruling of not allowing a second vote for defeated motion, allowing yet another bite at the cherry for the Remainer votes which had been so soundly defeated on Wednesday, as we reported here.
The Parliament-watchers, the political correspondents, are counting votes and talking about probabilities until one’s head hurts. The fact is that the DUP is standing firm at the time of writing, Mr Corbyn will have Labour vote against Ms May, and not all ERG members will follow their leader Jacob Rees-Mogg into turncoatery.
Ms May’s acolytes, remainers all, have of course come up with scare scenarios should her WA not get through. “A Brexit delay could last for five years!” screams the Daily Mail – here – but why that would be so they don’t say. They do quote the inevitable ‘sources’, for example:
“A Whitehall source said another defeat for the Prime Minister’s deal could see Brexit delayed for up to five years.’Once you have taken part in the European elections, there is no limit on the number of extensions you could have during the lifetime of the parliament,’ they said.”
Well, we do know by now that Whitehall is the hotbed of Remain, and that the Whitehall Mandarins have done their outstanding best to keep us in the EU – so ‘they would say that, wouldn’t they’! There’s more scary stuff:
“Mrs May’s former deputy Damian Green suggested she would ‘soldier on’ as Prime Minister if her deal is defeated, despite ministers warning privately she could not lead the party” (link)
And
“Ministers hope the symbolism of MPs voting on the day the UK was originally due to leave the European Union will pile pressure on opponents of the deal to back down. They also believe the public would blame MPs for blocking Brexit.(link)
The vote for the future of our Nation – an exercise in symbolism? That’s despicable. We the public will indeed blame the MPs for blocking Brexit – and not just the MPs but Ms May and her Whitehall handlers. We know full well that her WA is not Brexit, and we know full well that the Remain HoC – a very few honourable MPs excepted – never have been interested in producing the Brexit we voted for.
instead they now play for their own aggrandisement, and the Tory MPs are already in full election mode to replace Ms May. This spectacle of the Hunts, Raabs, Goves et al jockeying for leadership position reminds me of vultures hovering and waiting for the final breath of the dying animal. The paywalled DT has articles on these Tory wannabe PMs, but electioneering messages on this day of all days are in bad taste, so I’ll disregard them.
There are other juicy rumours from ‘sources’, see here:
“Opposition sources said a junior member of the Government had privately admitted Mrs May would trigger a national poll “if things fall apart” today or early next week.The warning was viewed as “credible” and based on “something substantive”, the sources claimed.” (link)
That’s why Labour will vote against it. It’s another reason to spend this morning watching the HoC: what will happen after the vote?
Whitehall and the EU are already preparing for Ms May’s WA deal being rejected:
“EU leaders are preparing to force Britain either to accept a delay lasting as long as a year at a special summit on April 10 or to crash out without agreement, senior Brussels officials say. Preparations for the UK to take part in European parliament elections on May 23, a condition of remaining in the bloc to avoid a no-deal, will be stepped up today. Returning officers are being placed on standby across the country. Officials from the Cabinet Office and Electoral Commission will also run through plans for the elections at a Whitehall meeting.” (paywalled link)
And here’s how the beloved EU will deal with the prospective May Failure:
“At the summit in Brussels on April 10, EU leaders will face a choice between a no-deal Brexit or giving Britain a long extension. Senior Brussels officials think that the EU will offer a long extension, perhaps appealing over the prime minister’s head to MPs. […] After a summit last week, negotiations over an extension were taken away from EU ambassadors and handed to “sherpas”, aides to European heads of state and governments who prepare for international meetings.”(paywalled link)
Isn’t that why we voted to Leave? So that we’re no longer being ruled by faceless, unelected EUrocrats? And that’s what the Remainers are delivering us into! This report in RemainCentral, the Times (paywalled link) shows nicely the EU’s dropped mask:
“The European Union will insist that Britain pays a £39 billion bill and implements the Irish backstop before beginning emergency talks to prevent an economic crash after a no-deal Brexit. European ambassadors met in restricted session yesterday for “full-on war-gaming for a no-deal”, according to one source, to dictate the terms that Britain would have to sign up to in order to open talks if it crashes out of the EU as early as April 12. […] “According to European diplomats, Mr Barnier warned ambassadors that the EU would have to ensure that temporary measures to protect continental economies do not become too comfortable or permanent for Britain.” (paywalled link)
The message is clear: punish Britain – make us pay and the backstop remains anyway …
Odd how all those Remain fanatics never ever talk or even think about that! Odd how our MPs in that Pit of Pratfalling, Peacocking Clowns are oblivious. And they are equally oblivious of the new EU Laws which we have to obey. Ryan Bourne in the DT writes about the new EU Copyright Laws which will kill the Internet and mentions the new safety regulations for cars – e.g. breathalysers! – which will apply to all new cars by 2022. He concludes:
“Theresa May has, for three years, elevated the importance of an orderly EU exit above everything else. Her single-minded focus on that process has marginalised any sort of domestic post-Brexit economic vision, […] The government’s impotence has provided Remainers with the live possibility of keeping us hooked into the EU regulatory juggernaut too.” (link, paywalled)
Strange how this whole WA has been sold as ‘facilitating trade’ when in fact it does no such thing. But, having watched the peacocking clowns in that Pit of Pratfalls, a.k.a. The HoC, I’d venture the guess they are so keen on Remain because they don’t know a thing about real life and need the guiding hand of the EU who gives them nice directives they can nod through without having to engage their brains.
Let’s hope that May fails today and that we get a GE so we can get rid of all of those Remain MPs, keeping the tiny handful of honourable exceptions – you know who they are.
Our thoughts and best wishes are with the intrepid Leavers who are going to London to the big Leave Rally!
Andy Street, our metro mayor for the West Midlands, had the following to say earlier today:
“I deeply regret the fact that the political agendas we have seen played out in Westminster have resulted in us not leaving the EU in the orderly way as we should be today.
I continue to support respecting the referendum result and delivering a Brexit that works for the West Midlands economy and it’s people.”
DOUBLE-SPEAK:
Any politician that says either of the following:
“respect/respecting the referendum result”
“honour/honouring the referendum result”
is not to be trusted. They are mere ‘weasel words’, they don’t mean what they say.
Take it in the context of me saying “I respect your opinion and your thoughts, but I am going to just ignore you anyway”.
Our current crop of politicians really do not understand the actual meaning of the words “honour” or “respect”.
There is either going to have to be a general election, because we cannot have Theresa May throwing her dreadful Withdrawal Treaty back at Parliament to vote on, as they have effectively ruled out ‘no-deal’ it figures there will have to be some kind of ‘withdrawal agreement’ that they will agree to. Either way the charade will continue, with extension after extension being granted, until an agreement is reached, and who knows when that will end up being.
Or there will be a second referendum, rigged so that Remain wins. If the UK is to take part in EuroParl elections, that will be the cue to know that Remaining is inevitable.
As the Borg from Star Trek would say: “Resistance is futile”.
But at least I’m glad that Theresa May’s WA wasn’t passed. We may end up Remaining for now, but we live to fight another day.
So May’s deal fails yet again but at least 30+ Tories staying true to their word and voting against it.
Now it is on to Monday and Part2 of the indicative votes charade where Ken Clarke’s Customs Union and a Confirmatory Vote will take pride of place. Toda, right on cue,y we have Michel Barnier stating loud and clear; that a CU deal would be OK (for Brussels of course, keeping the UK well anfd truly neutered). I think we can take it as a given that Clarke’s CU will be voted through on Monday and form the basis of asking for a long extension of Art 50.
However, that still leaves to issue of the Withdrawal Agreement that will still have to be passed at some stage.
Personally, I would prefer a General Election, not least to see what the 2 major Politcal parties position on BREXIT will be. I live in the hope that the charlatans in Wasteminster, particularly the TIG, will feel the wrath of the electorate and a truel BREXIT majority Parliamnet being returned..
Never were so many betrayed by so few !
I don’t know if I’ve got this right.
The WA was resoundingly rejected (first time).
The EU refused to renegotiate the WA, but just tacked on a non binding bit called the Political Declaration and together it was again resoundingly rejected (second time)
Bercow refused to allow it to be presented again (third time) as the EU would not still not allow any further renegotiation, so there was no substantial change to the WA.
The Political Declaration bit was taken off again, and although there has been no material change to the WA(1?) it has now been presented to Parliament for a vote. This vote is not the WA3 because the Political Declaration has been removed, but if it passes it is sufficient to proceed and make May 22 2019, the exit day specified by the EU if the WA3 passes.
When is WA3 not WA3 and when is it WA3? How is WA(not)3 different to WA(1), and what is meaningful about any of them?
Can any of these b******s tie their own shoe laces? (we know that Juncker cannot pair shoes never mind tie the laces).
Total right Jim R. Surely even the dimmest of the dim politicians can see what a dreadful future they are condemning us to !
Turkey and Christmas………………………………….or just turkeys !
Flyer thank you for your comments and especially the link below. It provides a really good example that explains to people that yes, you’re not imagining it. We really are where we appear to be. And b) it doesn’t matter which of the corrupted political parties are in power at any one time. The same people are pulling their strings and the direction of travel (down) will be maintained. (Forget left and right. That’s nothing more than a distraction.)
That’s how, for example, at the moment, here in the UK, you get globalist, one-world-government policy with conservative characteristics.
When Labour gets in you’ll get globalist policy with Labour characteristics.
Interestingly in China you’re actually told you are getting Socialism with Chinese characteristics. Sometimes also Marxism with Chinese characteristics. (Search online and see for yourself). Presumably that’s because there it’s official. There IS only one party.
To me this is as obvious as night and day, not because I’m some sort of political genius (I wish!) but because I grew up watching successive British governments (Labour, Conservative) dismantling successive bits of the Empire, N & S Rhodesia, now Zambia & Zimbabwe. Fortunately, the usual suspects seem to be struggling a bit with S. Africa, at the moment. I’m saddened but not surprised to see they’re making very good headway in New Zealand.
So when someone like JRM, or even Farage, for example, fails to leave the plantation, break free, and head for the political freedom that only comes when you work for your country and not for your puppet masters, we should NOT be surprised, we should expect it.
As things now stand I’d have difficulty trusting an ex-Tory. And as for someone who REMAINS in the Tory Party!!! (And that’s regardless of whether they talk remain or leave or anything else that comes out of their mouth.)
These are exciting times. I’m meeting more and more people who are awake to what’s happening.
Indeed, I’m now off to London to meet some more!
In the 1960s My wife anf I went for a oackage holiday to Crete.On the bus to the hatel i got chatting to this big irishman Pat.. He and has wife joined us for a drink and In the morning they joined us for breakfast. After breakfast We went outto get taxis. At the bottom of the steps to the hotel was a bunch of about 10 or 15 blokes obviously countrmen wearing berets and big grins. Anyway he turned to me and said ” Keep an eye on the wife for me.and they took him away with them on a n old lorry. I never saw him again.
During the war he had been parachuted into Crete and joined the cretan fighters and provided a link to british and supplies of arms etc.
Everyone in Crete Knew him or of him. We were always being bought drinks, and looked after by waiters and shopkeepers..
This is just a part of what the EU and our politics is destroying.
So: ‘The European Union will insist that Britain pays a £39 billion bill and implements the Irish backstop before beginning emergency talks to prevent an economic crash after a no-deal Brexit. ‘
The quote, from the Times, doesn’t make it clear whether this ‘economic crash’ will be to the UK or the EU, or mentions how it knows an economic crash is about to occur. Looks to me like a regurgitation of Project Fear; more threats and dire warnings that the UK will sink into the North Sea if we leave without a deal. What a load of rubbish!
Presumably, the Remain-central Times is assuming the crash will be to the UK and will necessitate us going to the EU cap-in-hand, begging to be bailed out. Another load of rubbish! And if the crash is actually to the EU, well what’s that got to do with us?
But what happens if the incoming Prime Minister, hopefully a Brexiteer, says simply ‘No’ when asked for this money? There’ll be companies all over Europe who will be prohibited from trading with us, and if anyone thinks they’re going to roll over and accept that, they’re mistaken. They’ll be up in arms and demanding their governments back down.
If we leave with no deal we can start trading immediately under WTO rules. We’ll be OK, but the EU? They’re worried about their own future without us, and perhaps the whole European edifice will come crashing down like the Berlin wall.
“…perhaps the whole European edifice will come crashing down like the Berlin wall”
That is my greatest hope and I believe there is a good chance of it happening, especially if they are deprived of our money.
We need to do all possible to encourage it.
🙂
Well, an economic crash has been on the cards for a long time, unfortunately it’s too easy for TPTB to postpone these things with printed money etc but they’ll drop it when it suits them.
Economic news coming out now is awful, zombie banks throughout Europe and around the world, loan and mortgage defaults, the retail apocalypse, yield curve inversions and so it goes on an on. The stock market is artificially inflated with low interest rates and central bank buying up stocks and bonds, not to mention corporate buybacks as CEOs etc unloading their owns stocks on their shareholders.
Of course there’s going to be a day of reckoning, the important thing to remember is that it’s not the fault of Brexit or Donald Trump, that is just Project Fear. It may not even start in Europe, Australia isn’t looking too good but there are plenty of other places on the slippery slope, including the emerging markets, many of whom are on a road to hell.
By keeping us in the EU TPTB are just making sure our money and taxes are available to help bail them out, of course nobody will admit to seeing this coming but as others have said here, they know full bloody well what’s going to happen.
Here’s an interesting video and I’ll explain why it’s relevant to our situation.
“Jacinda Ardern Exposed! (in 7 minutes or less)”
https://youtu.be/_kmukUisSkM
The interesting thing that they have to say is that all political parties, in order to advance globalisation, they have to convince us that they are different and against it when in reality they are not.
Jacinda Ardern is doing the same thing in New Zealand, Theresa May, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Boris Johnson and the vast majority of our politicians for over forty years have been doing it too.
So have look at the video if you have seven minutes to spare.
The narrator was talking a bit fast for me and the graphics flashed on and off a bit fast too, but the main thing I got out of it was that if Labour is in the title they are not for the people, but against. Not to say, as you have pointed out, that others (who do not have Labour in their title) are any different.
We have to face it, the bulk of politicians, who are only using politics as a cover for their activities to give the impression of democracy and choice, are of the exact same nature and that is globalism and the destruction of democracy.
Of this group, are they ALL in agreement or even aware of it? I don’t know because there are plenty useful idiots about.
On the surface it would appear in this little corner of the world that the cross party tabling of (useless) amendments going on in the Pit, signifies some kind of healthy consensus for the nation. I think it does not, rather the true nature of their agendas coming out, their party manifestos meaning nothing to them and therefore their voters.
I think the next few years are going to see upheaval.
And now Jonathan Isaby at Brexit Central falls over too.
Just read his “arguments” for giving way, they just dont hold water. . Nothing but nothing justifies this appalling deal. Is the possibility of art 50 being revoked worse than signing up to this dreadful WA? I never trusted Brexit Central, too much smoke and mirrors .
If May fails, it’s a default no deal exit, 29th March – or it should be. It’s not only the corporate-media trying to have people forget this, then.
Thing is, as Fred Vachha said in a recent post and James Delingpole said the same thing in a recent article, they both find it hard to get into debate with Lefties and remainers and I’ve found the same thing.
Most remainers wouldn’t know how to put an argument together for staying in the EU, in reality for most people outside of a select few, their are no good arguments for remaining in the EU.
So all we get from remainers is just the chanting and repeating of mindless mantras that they see and hear in the mainsteam media. I find it depressing when I realise just how few people seem to be capable of any form of critical analysis and unfortunately this makes them the ideal fodder for lefty, remainer and globalist propaganda: sheep in other words.