Not just madness but Brexit Madness
Brexit Madness has had the HoC in its grip for three years, amply shown by their last session. Yesterday the Scottish High Court showed that it has succumbed to that Brexit Madness as well.
Unless you’ve been hiding under your blankets or duvets all day yesterday, you’ll have heard that they ruled the Prorogation of Parliament was illegal, overturning the previous High Court judgment that it was a political matter. If you’re judicially inclined, you can read the full text here.
In blatant disregard of the fact that Scottish Law doesn’t apply in England, Gina Miller’s lawyers immediately called on MPs to come back and ‘occupy’ the HoC (here). And lo and behold, off some Labour MPs went and actually did it (here)!
That same day the English High Court Judges published the text of their ruling last week when the had thrown out the Miller-Major case (here). Here’s a summary report:
“Yesterday the Court of Session in Edinburgh agreed, in an excoriating judgment, that the decision was invalid because it was “motivated by the improper purpose of stymying parliament”. Hours later the High Court in London released its reasons for rejecting a similar case brought by the anti-Brexit campaigner Gina Miller. The three English judges said that even if the shutdown was motivated by desire for “political advantage” it would still be legal, saying that prorogation was a political matter into which courts should be “slow to intrude”. (paywalled link)
The appeal will be heard next Tuesday. Meanwhile we read that the Speaker, for once, isn’t going to ‘push the matter’ and hasn’t re-opened the HoC (link, paywalled). A Government official called that decision biased and Ms Sturgeon was predictably outraged by that comment (paywalled link). A useful preliminary explanation for what this all means is here.
However, in an intriguing article providing background information we read:
“The MPs who asked a Scottish court to overturn the prorogation of Parliament took on Boris Johnson using a 300 year old law brought in at the time of William of Orange, dubbed the “Scottish Magna Carta”. A band of 76 MPs, Lords and lawyers won an appeal yesterday in Scotland’s Inner Court of Session in Edinburgh, using a case based partly on the Claim of Right Act, passed by the Scottish Parliament in 1689. The law enabled the Scots to forfeit James VII as their king and establish their sovereign right to choose a Government. It now forms a key part of the Scottish constitution and was used by MPs’ lawyers to argue that prorogation is unconstitutional […]. It is a distinctive piece of Scottish legislation and does not apply in England.” (paywalled link)
That, of course, doesn’t matter to the Remain MPs who seemed to think Scottish Law also applies in England, as if the Scottish tail must wag the English bulldog. I hope they aren’t that ignorant – if they are so much the worse – but using this ruling for political grandstanding is at the very least unbecoming.
Also last night the government published the text of that ‘Operation Yellowhammer’ paper (here, here and paywalled here and here). Will the Remainers in Parliament and the MSM now accept that this was about a worst-case scenario, or will they bemoan the fact that some parts were redacted?
I’m sure we’ll hear from them – as I’m sure Mr Grieve and his supporters will fill the papers and the airwaves with their fury that the private Cabinet deliberations about the Prorogation were not released – see here and here. They all quote Johnson’s remarks:
“Boris Johnson last night defied MPs’ orders that he publish private messages on proroguing parliament only hours after a court ruled the shutdown to be illegal. The prime minister rejected the demand by the Commons to see advisers’ communications, calling it “unprecedented, inappropriate and disproportionate”. He added that MPs were to blame for the “real failure of democracy” because the result of the EU referendum had not been honoured.” (link, paywalled)
While this was going on, Labour was in turmoil about their Brexit policy, with Tom Watson in fundamental conflict with Corbyn. It’s about having an election first and then a 2nd referendum or the other way round.
Since Corbyn has now refused an election twice, we can let that strife simmer on the backburner. It’ll erupt in full at the Labour AGM which will take place in Brighton from the 21st to the 25th September.
Far more interesting is a report from Brussels in The Times with the title “EU officials regret getting into bed with Remainers” (link, paywalled). Only yesterday we looked at a report on Blair and Mandelson being the Remain puppet masters (here).
This latest report reaffirms that those two politically undead – unelected, at that! – have had their fingers in the Remain pie. That their efforts have now severely undermined the trust of Remain Brussels in their shenanigans is delicious:
“European Union officials and diplomats are “tearing their hair out” at the twists and turns of Labour’s “mad” Brexit policy and regret past tactical alliances with Remain campaigners. One Brussels source close to negotiations said the EU had “made mistakes” with Labour and was now horrified at the party’s convoluted position as political chaos in Westminster raises the prospect of Jeremy Corbyn taking the keys to Downing Street. “They want us to negotiate a ‘credible’ deal and then they will campaign against it in a referendum? That is mad. How can we negotiate with people like that?” an EU source said. “Their divisions and magical thinking are as bad as anything the Conservatives produced — perhaps worse.” (link, paywalled)
Did Brussels really think that Corbyn was a suitable tool to get BRINO with no other agenda? Do they not read British papers in Brussels? One can only label this as a perfect example of ‘buyers’ remorse’! More details:
“The source expressed regrets that links with Sir Keir Starmer, the shadow Brexit secretary, had helped shape Labour tactics that backfired by contributing to three defeats for Theresa May’s withdrawal agreement. […] Officials regret not cultivating other Labour MPs who support a withdrawal agreement to avoid alienating their party’s voters who backed Leave in northern and Welsh constituencies by campaigning to reverse Brexit. “It would have been better to talk to sensible MPs like Stephen Kinnock or Lisa Nandy who want an agreement,” said the source.” (link, paywalled)
Oh dear oh dear oh dear! ‘Cultivating sensible MPs’? Whatever next! And see this:
“More widely, European governments now believe that it has been a mistake to back Remainers such as Tony Blair and Lord Mandelson, who have links in Brussels and Paris, in their efforts to use delays to the Brexit deadline to keep Britain inside the EU.” (link, paywalled)
Oh my giddy aunt! This is what I call ‘hoist with their own petard’, falling for the honeyed words of Blair and Mandelson because they wanted to believe. More proof of the EU’s interference in our politics:
“Donald Tusk, the president of the European Council, has been active in encouraging Remain campaigners to press for extensions to the Article 50 process culminating in the recent House of Commons legislation to prevent a no-deal Brexit this week. […] “Remainers in the EU once saw merit in extension because it kept Britain in the EU. That is changing and it is changing fast in the capitals,” a senior EU diplomat said. “It has not been helpful and has been a get out jail free card allowing the Westminster parliament to think they do not have to take responsibility for the withdrawal agreement.” (link, paywalled)
Nice: the EU, not content with helping May to destroy Brexit, was simultaneously looking for a ‘backstop’ by getting into bed with Blair and his Remain harlots. At the same time, having created this Remain Mayhem, they dare to blame Parliament for ‘not taking responsibility’ for this disaster!
This report demonstrates the deep contempt in which both Brussels and the Remain MPs on both benches hold us, the voters. Not content with doing their utmost to wreck Brexit through the May BRINO WA, the EU has actively helped to undermine our constitution and our parliamentary rules and conventions by aiding and abetting Labour and the rest of the Remain Harlots in the HoC.
And now they are aghast! Surely it must now be obvious that the EU hasn’t the faintest idea how our democracy works! And why are our MSM reporters not investigating which other MPs have been ‘cultivated’ by the EU?
This EU practice of ‘cultivating’ MPs reminds me of the practices of the former Soviet Union, adept at ‘cultivating’ what was called ‘agents of influence’. Same spirit, no?
This is about more than just EU interference in our domestic politics. It is about the EU, with the help of the Remain Quislings – yes, this label is appropriate – having nearly wrecked our democracy, as the last weeks have shown.
There’s only one response: get rid of this Parliament and Leave now! If Johnson thinks he can do so without Farage and TBP then he is as guilty a Brexit Wrecker as the Remain harlots.
KBO!
Robin Tilbrook has now filed his case that we left on the 29th March , but that this isn’t being given a fair hearing in English courts, with the ECHR.
“I’m sure Mr Grieve and his supporters will fill the papers and the airwaves with their fury that the private Cabinet deliberations about the Prorogation were not released.”
So Mr Grieve…can we also see all the communications that Theresa May and Olly Robbins had with EU bureaucrats and with Merkel and Macron dealing with Brexit so we can see whether or not May’s “deal” was deliberately designed to make us think it would be better to stay in the EU after all, and/or was designed to make it easy to rejoin the EU after a period of organised chaos along the lines suggested by Project Fear?
What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander Mr Grieve.
Government and Parliament are both dysfunctional. Abject failure to negotiate a decent WA, No Deal off the table, a coalition of Remainiacs pushing for a Second Referendum or even Revocation, legal intervention. How soft can we go? This is where the slow, inexorable process to overturn the Leave vote is heading….Revocation or BRINO. It doesn’t look like Brexit to me. It’s not a “Peoples Vote” we need, it’s a truly representative Parliament. MPs whinge that they’ve been silenced…..now they know how it feels. We’ve been silenced for over 3 years and are now even denied a GE by these so-called defenders of democracy.
you can’t have a referendum before a General election, why! because many mp’s have stated on tv and in the press that if leave won again they still would not accept the result
Brexit has been a marathon and the end is in sight but there is some way to go yet.
Boris now has two obvious objectives:
(1) leave the EU with a deal where the EU elite will not be able to buy power with their quantitative eased €uro. Without the power to enforce their deal the EU will no longer be in control.
(2) ensure that the Conservative party takes the prize for leaving the EU and return politics to its normal state of the two main parties rule.
A election compact with the Brexit Party is nonsense. Nigel Farage fought the war. Now that the war has been won it is time for him to enjoy his retirement with a peerage or something in recognition of his services to democracy.
At the risk that this is a troll comment, it must be said that the tooth fairy; the fluff monster; and Santa Claus comes to mind.
To paraphrase Mark Twain, the reports of the war being over are greatly exaggerated.
Or to mimic the First World War saying ‘The war will be over by Christmas’ – right?
Turn on the TV once in a while, or read a newspaper, or somehow inform yourself.
Your comment, ‘now that the war has been won’ is absolute nonsense.
I am only going by what I read, hear, and see, in the news. The ECB has just announced endless quantitative easing. Also, “Yellowhammer”, the worst case scenario for a No Deal Brexit, is brilliant for Labour can be blamed if there is a No Deal Brexit.. Governments these days have “democracy” down to a fine art and it is based on opinion polls and consensus. Brexit was an aberration.
So it is easy to see that the government will go for a deal, probably Mrs May’s deal warmed up and as Labour has found itself with its back to the wall the deal will be carried with a large majority. The Conservatives will be praised for getting Brexit. And Labour will be praised for avoiding No Deal. And with Brexit out of the way it will be back to business as usual for the Conservatives and Labour.
Carrying on the war is therefore out of the question.
open your eyes mays capitulation is not a deal it making us slaves they are taking everything they have not taken in the last 45 years
SG – Don’t feed the troll
After the hanging, no-one invites Jack Ketch home for tea.
But this time, I think he might well invite himself.
JF
we don’t want any deal with the eu before we leave then they can make an offer on a deal and on how much they are going to pay.
Sounds like a plan! In fact, isn’t this the way it was always supposed to work? We make a deal AFTER we leave? To pay any money TO them in the interests of trade is bribery anyway. Let’s ACCEPT money from them for all they owe us (including German war reparations that they escaped twice). That should bring in a tidy sum.
BrexitCentral published two links just now which you might like to look at.
First, the text of the English High Court Judgment from last week’s hearing.
Next, the letter by Michale Gove to Dominic Grieve in regard to the publication of the Yellowhammer documents and the reasons for not publishing the private papers etc in regard to Prorogation – certainly worth reading here.
This is to do with brexit and all we are being subjected to now via MP’s et all that don’t have a clue other than their own personal agendas of kepping Great Britain within the EU clutches.
Please take a serious look at this article by Stanley Brodie QC:
https://unitynewsnetwork.co.uk/another-eminent-qc-claims-that-we-exited-the-eu-on-the-29th-of-march/
I’m not sure if you and your colleagues have come across this article, this is seperate to the Tilbrook case still ping ponging, however it is quite disturbing the findings set out regarding manipulation of wording within Article 50, by his assumption from within the Civil Service, this apparently is how the EU/Remain camp have manipulated PM May to keep adding time to our leave date illegally.
It appears we have in reality fully left the EU.
I found it interesting how about you ?
Gets better and better , yesterday we heard that McCluskey told Watson what he and his friends in MSM could do, and today he wants Johnson to be subject to a citizens arrest following the Scottish Law Court ‘judgement’ , presumably any citizen will do to make the arrest, not him though! Just imagine ‘Hello is that the police ? I’ve arrested the Prime Minister, can you said somebody over? Well we don’t have any resources at the moment we can make you an appointment to see a community support officer next Tuesday.”
Unfortunately Boris does want to follow that whole Leave.EU Cummings strategy of pushing Faage aside and wanting to take all the credit for whatever they consider leaving is. He seems to be meltiing towards those traitors recently refused the whip. I hope this is just for internal party optics and not because he needs them to get a rewarmed Vassalage Treaty past the House. This is the easy way out for him but appalling for us ever patient leavers. If he then withdraws the whip from the Spartans I hope they move en masse to BXP.
With respect, MWT, we don’t actually know what BJ does want. We know what the MSM says he wants. We are being manipulated. It’s well to remember that. I don’t know what we should believe or what is just ‘spin’ – but anything that appears to be ”clickbait” surely IS ”clickbait”. We really don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes and we won’t know for a while yet.
Let’s hope it’s moving towards leaving the EU cleanly. But don’t let the MSM tell you what to feel.