Absolutely unbelievable! Yesterday the HoC voted for the Cooper/Letwin Amendment which was passed with 502 to 20, meaning that Ms May’s Brexit-trainwreck schedule is on track, and not one of our MSM opinion makers – Remain or Leave, no difference – have raised their heads above the parapet this morning, telling us plebs what this means for Brexit! Instead we get stuff on ‘Tory Rebels’:
“More than 100 Tory MPs have rebelled against the Government as Eurosceptics refused to back Theresa May’s plans to give the Commons a vote on extending Article 50. The Government imposed a three-line whip on an amendment tabled by Yvette Cooper, a Labour MP, which enshrined the Prime Minister’s commitment to give MPs a vote delaying Brexit if a deal cannot be reached. However 20 hardline Eurosceptic Tory MPs voted against the amendment including Esther McVey, former work and pensions secretary. A further 88 predominantly Eurosceptic Tory MPs abstained including Boris Johnson, the former foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, the former Brexit secretary and Jacob Rees-Mogg, the leading Eurosceptic Tory MP.“ (paywalled link, my bold)
What we got instead is Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg everywhere, video clips of his interviews everywhere, all about his support – or not – for Ms May’s BRINO Deal. Having previously denounced Ms May’s deal as abomination, he certainly has now managed to confuse everybody, e.g. here:
“Jacob Rees-Mogg says that if Mrs May can secure ‘necessary assurances’ on the controversial backstop to prevent a hard border in Ireland in the event of No Deal, ‘I would be delighted to support her deal and help avoid any delay to Brexit.’ Mr Rees-Mogg, chairman of the European Research Group of Leave MPs, insists he will take a ‘practical and not a theological attitude’ towards next month’s crunch vote on the deal […]”
For a taste of how bizarre JRM’s explanations have become, see this:
“Mr Rees-Mogg said he “could live” with a “de facto” removal of the backstop in the form of an “appendix”, which would clarify that the UK cannot be trapped in the arrangement indefinitely. The “appendix”, similar to a legal codicil, would clarify that the backstop, a so-called ‘insurance mechanism’ designed to keep the Irish border open after Brexit, cannot be permanent. Crucially, however, it would not need to be inserted into the treaty, which Brussels has insisted cannot be renegotiated. […] “I can live with the de facto removal of the backstop, even if it is not de jure, […] I mean that if there is a clear date that says the backstop ends, and that that is in the text of the treaty, or equivalent to the text of the treaty.” (paywalled link, my bold)
How has the abominable WA now become acceptable? Remember – it hasn’t been renegotiated! And does he really believe the EU would not contest such ‘appendix’? I do hope some of the more clued-up Brexit lawyers can set him right! At least, according to this article in Brexit Central, the ERG have ‘assembled a panel of lawyers’ to check if that ‘appendix’ is feasible, the eminent Martin Howe QC being one of them. The rest are all MPs, so while they may be experts, one wonders if Party Politics will cloud their expertise.
JRM made that same point in this article (here):
“The senior backbencher suggested that his 80-strong European Research Group (ERG) of MPs might accept an “appendix” to be attached to her Withdrawal Agreement setting out legal guarantees that the UK will not be indefinitely trapped in a customs union with the EU. Mr Rees-Mogg insisted that the appendix must have “equal” legal force to the original 585-page document setting out the agreement. He also indicated is willingness to accept a possible three-month delay to Brexit in the hope of getting a better deal.” (my bold)
The truly interesting item here is that in the video clip accompanying that article JRM makes a remark which seems to have been disregarded by the combined commentariat of the clever MSM – only Westmonster picked it up:
“Brexiteer MP Jacob Rees-Mogg has sounded the alarm over a potential delay to Brexit beyond 29th March, saying: “My suspicion is that any delay to Brexit is a plot to stop Brexit. This would be the most grievous error that politicians could commit.” (my bold)
Those of you who read the “YOUR DAILY BREXIT BETRAYAL” will immediately recollect that I made this point in yesterday’s column … So JRM and, one hopes, his ERG colleagues must also be aware of this problem.
That raises the question: why do they not shout it from the rooftops? Why do they give the impression that Ms May’s WA deal will be acceptable, provided the Backstop is dealt with? They themselves have spoken and written at length about that pernicious WA and why it must be rejected, Backstop or not. What has changed? Why does JRM suddenly seem to think a three-month extension wouldn’t be so bad, when the EU is patently unwilling to give such short extension, with M Macron insisting on a two-year long one (here)?
Is JRM thinking out loud, overthinking his arguments, being too clever by half? Or is he simply feeding the MSM titbits because, en coulisse, he and his ERG colleagues know the WA deal will pass, somehow, because, as Peter Bone MP apparently let this slip:
“Theresa May would resign as Prime Minister rather than accept Brexit being delayed, via the Article 50 exit mechanism being extended” (here)
and where would that leave the Government and the Tory Party? It looks again like ‘Party before Country’.
I don’t know if that was a threat by Mr Bone or speculation. I do know that the Brexit debate has now turned into an exercise of reading tea leaves regarding the inner workings of the Tory and Labour Party. I sometimes feel like the Kremlinologists of olden days who tried to find out what really went on in the Soviet Polit-Bureau by scanning arcane reports in arcane local pronouncements …
So this is where we are today – and all I can say is: keep rattling the cages of your MPs, local party chairmen and all Remainers wherever you see them. Read the inimitable Sir John Redwood’s Diary today and use the points he makes.
Above all, channel your inner Churchill and KBO!
I have asked this question at least a dozen times in various threads: “Is JR-M saying he will accept the Withdrawal Agreement, which was so spectacularly voted down by all parties, so long as the Backstop is removed?”
I am mystified by the total lack of comment on what appears to be a betrayal of everything JR-M has been saying for two years, Am I right in saying that nothing in the WA has been changed since that record breaking vote? The vote that rejected the ‘worst Deal in History?’
That makes him every bit as duplicitous as May. I can’t understand this. Surely I have got something wrong? I thought I could trust him. If he of all people has been lying to us then I can’t believe in anything any more.
I think, like the rest of us, you are in shock. The solid rock that we thought or hoped he may be, turns out to be wet sand on a beach. Yes it looks like a minor tinkering round the edges of the WA with regard to the backstop only, is enough for him to crumble.
We can have no confidence in any MP’s with perhaps a very few exceptions, but we cannot now be SURE.
As Churchill may have said, ‘never have so many been lied to, by so few, for so little’
But we must follow his other words and keep fighting.
See https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/02/06/parliament-beware-backstop-eu-political-declaration-double-trap
Mogg thinks we swallow the fiction that the WA amounts to a brexit of sorts that is better than nothing, whereas in fact legally it is the opposite and far worse. For that matter, the whole legal spiders web is just a castle of cards that could be collapsed by tearing up the unconstitutional 1972 Act of Accession. Provided we were strong enough to get away with it. But after wasting a decade under Tory rule we’ve lost our army and become much weakened. Deliberately. Of course Mogg knew all this all along and is part of this very elaborate charade. No wonder he hates WhoKIP.
Gerard Batten is right that article 50 is a trap to keep us in EU- even if it were in the hands of a decent UK negotiator. That the only way to brexit was to to elect a truly eurosceptic party (NOT the Tories),; and that there are no short cuts like the one we’ve tried to take: win a referendum then put the job of Brexit in the hands of a Europhile party.
better link https://independencedaily.co.uk/the-backstop-and-the-eu-a-warning-from-history/
THINK AND DOUBLE THINK ! ….. It’s times like this that I’m pleased to say that I’m a simple and uncomplicated old boy, that can clearly see things even without my glasses.
The People said LEAVE.- Not Leave with this agreement, or that intention.- JUST LEAVE ! It is a blot upon our proud history that we are in such a mess, that we continue to talk to the EU upon a matter that has been resolved by the People !
Has this been forgotten?
https://independencedaily.co.uk/the-draft-withdrawal-agreement-threatens-our-civil-liberties/
Thanks Mary you did well to remind us of this brilliant article by the “master” Torquil Dick – Erikson.
I would imagine all his criticisms expressed there are still extant today – and have not been heeded in the slightest.
Mrs May was very crafty when she informed everybody after that record voting down of the WA she had “detected” a fault in the Baqckstop.
Oh yes she had! – handily “forgot” the rest of the WA agreement (it`s virtually the same trick as bringing out bad figures on the same day as another disaster – sort of sleight of hand!)
Under all this smoke and mirrors, backstops, tariffs and customs, junkets to Brussels, party political clown shows etc, the reality here is that our Government, working for the UN, big business, banks and marxists, is preparing an appalling future for us, with humungeous immigration, taxation without representation, and deliberate collapsing of our civilisation .They are giving themselves totalitarian powers against us to ensure we don’t fight back.
Re the WA possible add-ons. Did not Hitler sign up to some eternal peace waffle with Chambermaid ?
We ran the UKIP poster truck all over London yesterday to huge effect – thousands and thousands of people got the message loud and clear: NEVER TRUST A TORY. That must sting our opponents, we’re hoping for further donations to keep slapping these TREACHEROUS politicians hard.
Russell – have asked Viv to get me in touch.
I have no idea as to the costs but would like to help.
Many a mickle makes a muckle.
Viv, like Biscotte, I’d be grateful if you could help me to establish contact with Russell in order for em to make a small donation towards the cost of keeping the poster truck on the road. Marie.
Done.
Jacob Rees-Mogg is a TORY FIRST and a BREXITEER SECOND.
Those who attended a social event in Central London last December would have little difficulty in believing that, because they would have witnessed a heated exchange between JRM and me.
I immediately responded, impromptu, to a speech by JRM. I compared Theresa May slinking off to Berlin cap-in-hand in October 2018 with a certain other event involving another Tory Prime Minister and a more southerly German city almost exactly 80 years earier.
Yes, Munich and the end of August 2018 would have been so much more fitting for our cowardly surrender and betrayal, and I said so.
JRM really, really did NOT like the history lesson, and responded, face reddened, calling it “unhelpful” and then deriding UKIP.
Reprise:
Jacob Rees-Mogg is a TORY FIRST and a BREXITEER (A POOR) SECOND.
I have more faith in Lord Tebbit, Peter Bone, Bill Cash, David Campbell Bannerman, John Redwood, IDS, maybe Tom Pursglove than in JRM.
(That JRM himself used “my” war analogy in a speech a month later merely means he’s a politician)
As the MP for North East Somerset where I live, JRM is, in his political world, HE comes FIRST, HIS PM comes SECOND, HIS PARTY comes THIRD and anything else has to fight like ferrets in a bag to be considered… if they’re lucky. Russell’s truck is amazing! Thank you! Can you run one that says – Never trust a Politician, Full stop end of’
Exactly. He was all waffle at the tory party conference when was heckled about his letter to the 1922 committee. Very erudite but nothing else going on.
I’d have had more faith on Brexit in Anthony Wedgewood Benn, Peter Shore and Hugh Gaitskill than any current Tory.
There was a private meeting between JTM and May. That is, two practising Christians met to reconcile after he tried to have her removed last December. We can only guess which bit of scripture they cited to each other as they were moved by the power of the Holy Spirit.
what is jrm up to? i have no idea but he seems to have turned! why???
Yes Freddy,
I think Mr Rees-Mogg is likely to come in for something of a kicking on his weekly one-hour phone-in on LBC tomorrow evening (Friday) at 6 pm. Since the ERG’s bungled attempt to topple Mrs May, he seems to have become less coherent and ever more wobbly on Brexit.
He might be invited to review the ERG’s own denunciation of the Withdrawal Agreement, and invited to comment on it point by point:
https://brexitcentral.com/erg-publish-right-know-case-governments-brexit-deal/
http://2mbg6fgb1kl380gtk22pbxgw-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Your-Right-to-Know.pdf
Hi Chris
JRM has cancelled his Friday LBC slot.
Tomorrow its Tom Watson as the stand in
Has he indeed!
well well well …
Drat. . I was looking forward to this dog fight. Was going to give him a ring on LBC myself.
Freddy.
What’s the official UKIP tactical plan for the next 30 days and the strategic plan for 30 days + ?
I can’t find any.
It would perhaps be wise to have some form of communication from who or whomever it might be who may be perhaps thinking or debating this ?
The NEC? The Chairwoman ? The Press Officer ? The leader?
How about a Party Political Broadcast ??? (Not by Tommy Robinson)
K
What’s the official UKIP tactical plan? “Keep calm and carry on as normal”.