David Frost, ‘our man’ against ‘Mr EU’ Barnier
Eagle-eyed readers will have noticed the small change in today’s title for this column! It’s because today we’ll report about Brexit and the Brexit trade negotiations as the latest talks ended yesterday – with no results. There will be some CV-19 ‘news’ further down, but for once we can take a break from the endless little reports about this pandemic.
RemainCentral this morning ‘dedicated’ just one report to this event. Perhaps even their Brussels correspondents are a bit stunned by the posturing of ‘Our Michel’. Perhaps they were as surprised by David Frost and his team’s press conference as the Brussels correspondents of the other papers were. The DT yesterday afternoon reported in one of their live blogs on the Barnier pronunciations, swamped later by the government daily COVID-19 press conference (link, if you’re interested – you have to scroll down a lot).
However, for once even the hard-core Remainer Brussels correspondents seem to concede that Barnier was, well, block-headed. Asa Bennett (not a Remainer) in the DT points out that this time round the EU negotiator was out-played by David Frost:
“If Michel Barnier thought his update on the state of post-Brexit negotiations would go in similar fashion to last month, when he was able to freely wax lyrical about the wisdom of the EU’s demands and deplore the audacity of what the British wanted, his British counterparts sorely proved him wrong. Rather than leave the EU’s chief negotiator to give his take on the talks first, so that the media can spread it far and wide for hours before any holes can be picked in it, David Frost rained on his parade.” (paywalled link)
Mr Frost did this by holding his PR conference first. You can read his speech here (scroll down a bit). Mr Frost also said that his team will now publish all the text and papers they’ve been working on (link). You might recall that non-publication of papers and texts was one of the conditions on which these trade negotiations were started earlier this year. The EU has not kept to this rule.
It has now become obvious even to the Remain Brussels correspondents that the negotiations won’t end well if Barnier keeps being pigheaded. The Times describes the irreconcilable positions, pointing out that there are now only six weeks and one more round of talks before the deadline of 30th June – the date when Johnson would have to ask for an extension if “we” want to avoid that infamous ‘cliff edge’ of leaving with no deal on December 31st. See this:
“We made very little progress towards agreement on the most significant outstanding issues,” Mr Frost said. “It is hard to understand why the EU insists on an ideological approach which makes it more difficult to reach a mutually beneficial agreement. We very much need a change in EU approach for the next round beginning on June 1.” Mr Barnier, the EU’s lead negotiator, said there was “incomprehension on the British side of the conditions for access to our market”. He added: “I’ve invited the UK to change tactics, to change strategy if they really do want to strike an agreement. There seems to be a real lack of understanding.” (link, paywalled)
As usual, it’s the UK which ‘must change tactics’, according to Mr Barnier who of course doesn’t need to do any such thing! The lack of understanding he bemoans is however to be found on the side of Barnier and the EU. They keep playing the same records of ‘level playing fields’ and ‘cherry picking’, and how we Brits don’t understand Brexit. James Crisp (DT, Remain) cherry-picked some Barnier remarks which demonstrate nicely this Barnier-Think:
“The EU’s chief negotiator, who said he was “not optimistic” about reaching a deal, added: “To make progress in this negotiation – if it is still the United Kingdom’s intention to strike a deal with the EU – the United Kingdom will have to be more realistic. It will have to move beyond this lack of understanding and, no doubt, it will have to change strategy. You cannot have the best of both worlds.” (paywalled link)
‘One cannot have’? Ooh – the stern EU daddy has spoken! Actually, the ‘best of both worlds’ which we cannot have always means ‘best for the EU’. Then again, if one part of a negotiating team keeps saying ‘no, non, nein’, repeating their tired old phrases, we have to ask ourselves if Brussels actually prefers the negotiations to crash. See this:
“Mr Barnier suggested Britain could not have the same benefits as countries within the EU’s Single Market “without the same rights and obligations”. He listed UK demands for “virtually full freedom of movement” for short visits, recognition of professional qualifications for lawyers, auditors and accountants and recognition of UK-based labs to test products to ensure they match EU standards as examples of cherry-picking.” (paywalled link)
This is cherry-picking because it’s not the whole bang shooting match of ‘level playing fields’ Barnier wants! In contrast, see David Frost’s comment, as reported by Asa Bennett in the DT, noting that Mr Frost is throwing some of Barnier’s usual complaints straight back at him:
“Despite sharing legal texts and fleshing out British demands with relevant precedents made crystal clear, the UK’s top negotiator lamented that “we made very little progress towards agreement on the most significant outstanding issues between us.” The chief sticking point cited by Mr Frost was the EU’s beloved “level playing field” proposals, which he said needed to change for any deal to be done: “As soon as the EU recognises that we will not conclude an agreement on that basis, we will be able to make progress.” He indicated that the UK would continue plugging away in search of a deal, with the next round of talks looming in June, “for as long as there is a constructive process” – which risked being scuppered the “ideological” approach taken by Brussels.”(paywalled link)
The issue of our subjugation to the ECJ has been left out, carefully, because it’s a money-spinner for Brussels. We recall that the EU threatened us with ‘daily fines’ should French travellers be exempt from quarantine when/if Johnson imposes this on June 1st. They’ve found another issue:
“British taxpayers will be lumped with the bill for Brussels’ legal costs from the lengthy trial at the European Court of Justice. The Luxembourg-based court ruled the UK had breached an EU directive by failing to notify eurocrats of a zero-hand of VAT given to commodities traders. The legal action reinforces Boris Johnson’s argument for leaving the post-Brexit transition period when it expires at the end of the year.” (link)
Bad timing, this! These are the nit-picking Brusselocrats in full flow. It’s worth mentioning in passing that they’re also keeping their beady eyes on Germany – see this wonderful report in facts4eu. Brussels desperately needs to get more money! Back to the Frost-Barnier duel, with the rather interesting conclusion by Mr Bennett:
“Perhaps the increasing anger between the UK and EU is part of an elaborate pantomime to hide a massive cave-in over the coming weeks that will seal a last-minute deal. This rancour will certainly not help either side consider what concessions they could make. Mr Barnier is never going to get the British to change tack by issuing orders, while European leaders are instinctively going to rally around their negotiator in order to hold the Brussels line. The big question around the transition period has been lately, due to the chaos caused by coronavirus, whether to delay Brexit again. But […] the bigger question is fast looking like whether any deal can be done at all.” (paywalled link)
Yes – that ‘cliff edge’ is back in play! Since ‘that virus’ has been mentioned, I’ll segue elegantly into mentioning two COVID-19 news items. One is rather ominous, namely that council taxes will have to rise because councils are losing income thanks to Lockdown (link, paywalled). There is of course no question of council ‘CEOs’ taking a haircut to their extraordinary salaries and pension schemes! Pay up, peasants, even if you are going to have less money in your wallets because of the Lockdown consequences!
The other item is that ‘medical sniffer dogs’ twill be trained, to sniff out ‘asymptomatic CV-19 carriers’. I love dogs and I’m sure they can be trained to do just that, but the reasoning made my blood boil! LSHTM who will train these dogs said that:
“the scheme could form a highly efficient and non-invasive means of singling out the most dangerous people for spreading the disease.” (link)
I am speechless! This is the perfect way of setting people, already fearful, against each other by making them ever more suspicious about who might ‘give’ them that virus. What has happened in our country that people, scientists even, can think of such schemes, using language which aims to make people suspicious of invisible, ‘dangerous carriers’ everywhere.
There are days when it’s really difficult to
KBO
Photo by UK Prime Minister 
As always, Thanks Vivian. – The picture at the head of today’s piece is perfect, but for Coronavirus. – Not for our Brexit, as it is !
The picture shows a largely indecisive group of politicos, all wondering about facts that have been presented by the public, in two National votes now. – One by Referendum and one by General Election. – It is therefore a double underlined fact that the people expect and demand our total withdrawal from the EU ! – No agreement for trade will be given via the Frenchman Barmier, because he can’t grasp the facts that we have indeed left the EU, but trade is continuous, and may even override the dictates of Barmier and his EU, once a useful market is lost to the EU’s members. – If there is any freedom by the members of the EU, trade will inevitably dominate, though that is up to them in the future !
So Brexit should pose no problems to politicos, as they have been instructed twice by the people now, and should just get on with it. – After all they are paid better than I was for most of my working life, and we are told that plans are well advanced for trade on WTO terms, so what is there to be considered ? – Right now the virus and handling its cost is the urgent imperative for Government, and that certainly requires quick attention !
Leyen was, I read, a poor politician for Germany, and probably installed into her position in the EU as a useful puppet. With these cracks appearing, and because things are going badly, how long will it be before the puppet masters move out from behind their screens? Will we catch a fleeting view of them?
Hello Viv.
You really need to read the story of Typhoid Mary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon
Carriers need to be identified, rounded up and if necessary, locked up.
If sniffer dogs are viable, they could check out hundreds of people a day at almost zero cost.
Surely Barnier’s prime objective is for a Brexit extension because of their increasingly desperate need to keep the cash rolling in and so for him it is absolutely essential to prevent the slightest sign of progress before the July deadline – Quite an easy task and little effort needed except that the incresing thickness of his accent indicates the worry and anxiety that it also very likely to fail not having our Prime Minister in his pocket this time.
Yes Lindsay, Barnier wants to extend, extend and extend again. In the short term he’ll be coining in £1bn a month from us and in the long term he hopes we’ll just give up and stay in. Stupid man!
Dead right Debbie! They only want the money but not our destructive example to their members.
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Oh Linsday you really mustn’t notice his accent. That is not politically correct you know. It’s interesting though well done for spotting his increasing anxiety. Like you say our prime minister is no longer in his pocket.
Covid won’t even make it into June..
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/05/COVID-19-total-announced-deaths-15-May-2020.xlsx
All the lockdown did was flatten the curve, drag the epidemic out for another 3 weeks and destroy the UK economy. No suggestion ICU beds would ever have been overloaded in any case. End the lockdown NOW!
“The chief sticking point cited by Mr Frost was the EU’s beloved “level playing field” proposals, which he said needed to change for any deal to be done:”
Could it be that there’s an invisible hand influencing the EU in this negotiation?
In the US it’s not that invisible.
Mike Pompeo – China’s LIC War Against the U.S.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QBFdAnbUkA
It’s the height of insult to claim another party ‘doesn’t understand’. But just who is it that doesn’t understand? Frost understands perfectly; he simply doesn’t want to accede to Barnier’s demands. Both sides are demanding the other changes its approach.
Yes of course there has to be a climbdown somewhere along the line if we are to get a deal, but with the EU in dire financial straits, all Frost has to do is hold firm. Asa Bennett is right; they’re both being difficult so that each can blame the other when the talks fail, just like a slow-motion car crash.
Don’t blame poor Michael (sic). His strings are being pulled by EU leaders, mainly Little Napoleon Macron and, to a lesser extent I think, Angela (Heil, Merkel!).
Angela (Heil, Merkel!)
More correctly for All common market citizens:-
Angela (Heil, Fuhrerin Merkel!)
or
Ein Volk, ein eu Reich, ein Fuhrerin
How about Frau Cow a nickname given to a housing warden I came across in Dusseldorf in the sixties. Long story!
Who wants a deal anyway. Lets just Crash out and see who hurts most.
I have no doubt that we’ll feel some pain if we crash out, Pauline, but the bloc will feel a helluva lot more – may even be the death of the EU, and we will bounce back, even from crashing out and Covid on top.
Spot on Debbie. Hasten the Crash. Let’s get it all over and done with together.
Sort of “attack dogs” do you mean?
Try terriers – there’s a brilliant video somewhere of their dealing with a heap of rats
I’ve seen that! It was on some documentary on Country Life magazine and showed 8 Bedlingtons despatching a entire farmyard full of rats. Incredible!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1LfNSFZQlio
Nah – they’re not as good sniffing out pest carriers, sorry: ‘asymptomatic corona infected’ dangerous people! Spaniels are good – and sort of cute, not like Alsatians which would be as good, sniffing, but which would definitely look far too scary.
And anyway, terriers would be more interested inf ending the (four-legged, furry) rats than sniffing people.
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Couldn’t read your article today! What happened? The characters are in a very pale grey against a pale grey background. Just too difficult and painful for my eyesight, so I had to give up. Very disappointed. Not your direct responsibility I’m sure Viv, but could you have a word with someone. Black on white works well, or at least has done for quite a few centuries now.
Many thanks
Michael Pearson
I have contacted our webmaster and he’ll be doing his best to deal with this glitch. Let me repeat: this was not done by our design, and we will rectify it.
Well I said before as far as my machine is concerned it’s was sorted yesterday. Dunno Michael but I’m wondering whether you altered something at your end and it now needs adjusting back.
This virus distraction must not stop us taking our eyes of the EU ball .
Quite agree Dick. See https://independencedaily.co.uk/saturday-papers-16-may-2020/
“pantomime to hide a massive cave-in”
This is the worry. You can bet that any cave-in will be on our side. Frost is assuredly not Barclay or Oily though so you never know. WTO would be fine and help us refill some of our massively depleted coffers.
Perhaps they could use Dobermans and Rottweilers as the covid detector yydogs and snuff out the problem spreaders as well as sniff them out.