“Stand and deliver!”
Another week in the Brexit Betrayal Saga starts with reports on the latest Brexit ‘policy’ of the Labour Party. We also await the verdict of the Supreme Court Judges, coming either today or tomorrow. Speculation is rife, and Dominic Raab contributed to that in yesterday’s Andrew Marr show – see the superbly ironic title in ConHome here which, I’m sure was entirely involuntary.
Also, Johnson is now in New York, attending the UN meeting and having ‘talks’ with Merkel and Macron. As always, we here at home – including our revered MSM journalists – have to rely on ‘sources’, so take the following with the usual, necessary grain of salt:
“Boris Johnson is expected to ask Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron today to rule out another Brexit delay to pressure MPs to back a revised deal. […] Mr Johnson is thought to be planning three-way talks with the German Chancellor and French President to outline his plans to replace the Irish backstop.” (link)
So far so bland: talking with those two ‘M’ is what one would expect a PM to do. The intriguing spin comes from ‘Tory sources’:
“Tory sources said the PM would also try to persuade them to make it clear that any new deal would have to be passed by October 31. Ministers believe the move would prevent MPs kicking the can down the road again – and force them to finally choose between leaving the EU with a deal and departing without one. It would potentially sidestep a controversial new law requiring Mr Johnson to seek another three-month extension to Britain’s EU membership unless a deal has been approved by Parliament by October 19.” (link)
Clever, innit, especially since it’s always such excellent strategy to tell all and sundry, especially your enemies, what you are hoping to achieve with your clever secret talks! If that’s the ‘cunning secret plan’ of BoJo and Cummings then God help us!
We know that the EU is not going to budge on the Backstop, or at least not until five seconds before midnight. We have also read over the weekend that the latest Brussels tactic is to blame all the forthcoming economic and other disastrous EU ‘news’ exclusively on the UK and Brexit, as M Juncker said yesterday (link), while making a rather bizarre remark about the necessity for that Backstop:
“An animal entering Northern Ireland without border control can enter without any kind of control the European Union via the southern part of the Irish island. This will not happen. We have to preserve the health and the safety of our citizens.” (link, paywalled)
I had to read this twice to get the drift. M Juncker seems to think that NI is an entry port for all sorts of ‘animals’, unchecked, which then wander across the border, unchecked, and are exported into the EU, unchecked. I do wonder if he knows how stuff gets exported from Eire into the EU. In case he forgot: the transit is through the UK … ! M Juncker did have something nice to say about Johnson though:
“Mr Juncker also defended Mr Johnson yesterday against accusations that his attempts to strike a revised deal with Brussels were just for show. He told the Spanish paper El Pais: “I don’t share the idea of those who think that Johnson is playing with us and with himself. I think he is trying to find an acceptable agreement for both the British parliament and the European parliament.” (link, paywalled)
I am starting to worry about the mental state of M Juncker! He previously had told the world that he has ‘no erotic relationship’ with the Backstop, now he’s talking about Johnson ‘playing with himself’? Say what? Let’s hope that he is simply not quite aware of the niceties of the English language and the subtle double meanings therein …!
Like the mostly Remain Tory Party, Labour is now on a similar path to destruction. Reports from their AGM show that their Brexit policy will be ‘Remain’, that Labour will be the ‘Remain Party’ (link). The pious words from the Labour NEC, leaked – of course it would be! – on Twitter, cloaks that decision with the usual Labour guff about ‘giving control to “Teh People”, as The Express reports:
“The policy, leaked into social media by the BBC, reveals that after a heated weekend NEC conference in Brighton, the result of intense talks on the subject of Brexit will be to hold a second referendum. The document reads: “The NEC welcomes Labour’s commitment to let the people decide Brexit. Labour will put control of Brexit back in the hands of the people in a new referendum with a real choice between a sensible leave deal or remain.”
Haven’t the people actually “decided Brexit” already? After three years of unedifying spectacle in the HoC, they are now supposed to put their trust in another lot of Remain politicians to deliver it?
This cannot distract from the actual reasons for this decision should it be adopted by the Labour AGM: the failure of Corbyn to lead, see here, and paywalled here and here. At first glance that looks like a valid enough reason. However, delving into these reports, it becomes obvious that this inner-Labour wrangle has more to do with the stark reality of the latest poll results. See for example this:
“Jeremy Corbyn is facing a full-scale revolt over his Brexit policy after senior party figures warned Labour will be crushed at the next election if he continues to sit on the fence. […] He was repeatedly warned that his views are not in tune with Labour members. Ms Thornberry warned that with the Conservatives pledging to leave the EU with or without a deal and the Lib Dems promising to revoke Article 50, Labour would be squeezed out at the next election – expected before the end of the year – if it still had no clear position on Brexit. She said: “Polling does show that we could lose 30 per cent of the Labour vote to the Greens and to the LibDems unless we are clear about where we stand on Europe” (paywalled link)
And there you have the reason for this abandonment of Labour Leave voters: the threat of the Illiberal Undemocrats and Greens squeezing out Labour votes. The result of the Brecon and Radnorshire by election, where a Green/Yellow ‘pact’ gave the win to a LibDem, shows that Labour is right to be scared – as ought the Tories. The report in the Times underlines it:
“Senior Labour figures have warned Jeremy Corbyn that Labour will be crushed at the general election unless it backs Remain as he put himself in open conflict with the grassroots members who elected him. […] The leadership wants the party to go into an election pledging to first renegotiate the current Brexit deal and then put that to a second referendum. But Mr Corbyn does not want to commit now to supporting Remain in those circumstances. The Labour leader has suggested he, or possibly the whole party, could take a neutral position. One senior figure said Mr Corbyn could not remain neutral in such circumstances. “He’s not the Queen,” they said. “He’s a politician.” It puts him at odds with the party’s members, who predominantly back staying in the EU. They are expected to table an alternative motion today to make Labour the party of Remain.”(link, paywalled)
While we have to wait for the outcome of that vote later today, let’s not forget that this Labour ‘Remain Revolt’ illustrates how much we’ve been lied to by politicians who promised to get us Out in their 2017 manifestos while keeping their fingers crossed behind their backs, meaning all the time to keep us In.
Brexit is their plaything, to be used and abused to get them back into the HoC, to keep them at their accustomed troughs. Talks about Backstops, about ‘Deals’, about ‘giving “Teh People” another vote, are nothing but window dressing, hiding their lies.
So we wait patiently while our self-proclaimed “betters”, be they Supreme Court Judges, be they MPs, be they MSM journalists, play around with our decision. Always remember though: we don’t matter to them except when we must be courted to produce the votes they crave. Then, any and all lies will be employed and redeployed.
We won’t be fooled again. They have abused our trust – and trust, once lost, is very hard to get back. Political smear words like ‘populists’, meaning: ‘leave voters’, won’t help them this time.
I’ve got this image in my mind of us Leavers pointing our blunderbusses – sorry: our votes! – at their chests and demand ‘stand and deliver’. It’s the only language they understand.
KBO!
Photo by e_cathedra
Latest view on tomorrows Supreme Court decision……..and it doesn’t look good.
https://youtu.be/9MagWgUS-w0
I voted Leave because of the deep endemic corruption in the EU Commision, etc. I thought I might vote TBP if that’s the only way to leave but Farage gives me a deep cold feeling of distrust.
I watched the Soros video here – thanks flyer for posting it. A cold feeling swept over me as I watched it much like I get watching Farage but with Soros it was ICY. That bloke really is evil.
I was a life long tory voter like all my family now its TBP as ºI feel ªBoris will come back with mays capitulation again, but force it through. Then we are stuffed
This is not really a reply to anyone but a voice of frustration at the well organised faction pushing for Remain and the apparently totally unfocused and non- directional approach of the individuals hoping for the type of Brexit that 17.4 million UK citizens voted for.
The Remain lobby have successfully taken over the agenda with a Parliament filled with moronic MP’s who either do not understand the issues at stake or have been brainwashed (or bribed) to act against referendum result, a Main Stream Press and TV/Radio that is controlled by Self Serving Editors who have championed the Remain stance and have locked out any discussion on the merits of Leave. Organisations wishing to Remain have embarked on expensive litigation (financed by vested interests) to try to rubbish anyone (from the Prime Minister downwards) who attempts to pursue a No-Deal Brexit. As it stands it seems that we are to be faced with a cancellation of Article 50 or a further referendum where the choice is Remain or some horrendous pseudo Leave which would be a betrayal of the 17.4 million.
On the “other” side the Leave faction appears to have nothing more than “talk shops” such as Independence Daily where well meaning comments are made about the treachery of the Brexit Betrayal and that we should “be vigilant” of the action being taken by the supporters of Remain. I have no idea of the circulation of this news sheet but it is certain that it is preaching to the converted. I suspect that many of those who voted to leave and, in the absence unbiased information regarding the merits of Brexit, have mentally capitulated and have either been won over to the “other side” or just given in because they accept the MSM viewpoint (being the only information available). I happened to find this website by accident but without a doubt it isn’t received and read by anything like 17 million.
I would openly admit that I do not possess the internet skills or other communication skills to champion the Leave agenda to a wider public but without this being pursued I fear that our cause is lost. All we will be left with are bitter comments as to how aggrieved we are that we have been betrayed.
I therefore think that Independence Daily should become more proactive in spreading the word and any readers who possess skills to further this should now come forward and give direction. I have not seen one poll as to the support in the country for a No-Deal Brexit but we are constantly being told in the press and TV that “no on wants a no-deal Brexit”. No one counters this comment so regrettably it becomes fact!
Now is not the time to talk amongst ourselves but to open up the argument to openly counter the propaganda being peddled by Remain.
I couldn’t agree more, David!
What we, the editorial team of INDEPENDENCE Daily, hope to do with every issue is to provide you readers with arguments, with new and up-to-date arguments which you can take away and use when you talk to your friends, neighbours and colleagues – everywhere, in pubs, in shops, at work.
From what I hear there are a lot of shy Leavers about who daren’t speak because of the jobs or their families, but who all do need to hear how Brexit is progressing (or not, sigh …).
So yes, go out and counter the Remainers’ arguments wherever you find them!
A radical change is taking place in British politics. Politics is no longer about consensus but about the supporters of the colonial power versus the demand for independence. So we can expect the Labour party to be sidelined by the Lib Dems for the foreseeable future with the Conservatives taking care of the social needs of the people (impossible you might say) while the Lib Dems take on the role of looking after the globalist elite.
Despite strenuous attempts to roll back on independence there can be no going back. The EU is not now seen as the saviour of Europe but as a malevolent oppressor.
There could be further delay but people are being forced to take sides. And Labour is out of touch.
The UK regaining independence will be similar to Poland in 1990 , the first Domino in the Soviet Empire which brought the rest crashing down,
the EUSSR central committee will be powerless to intervene .
Labour have seamlessly changed their allegiance to the new Brussels Regime who they now see as the beacon of state socialism as it goes further left as the full implications of the Lisbon treaty come into effect .
Pro EUSSR court verdicts seem to be delivered in a matter of a few hours , Pro independence verdicts on the other hand are subject to instant appeal and inevitable reversal , the collaborators obviously have the courts in their pockets .
“this abandonment of Labour Leave voters”
The calculation is obviously that sufficient loyal “my old dad would turn in his grave if he knew I’d not voted Labour” Labour Leavers will vote for Labour Remain, whereas the fanatical Labour Remainers — let’s face it, they really re fanatics in their love of all things EU — will only vote for a Remain party, whatever that turns out to be, even the ‘wouldn’t it be nice if everyone was nice’ LibDems.
Abandoned but docile, Labour Leavers are expected to do as they’re told.
It all hinges on TBP being able to convince people that we really are different, not Left, not Right, Straightforward*, something other than reheated versions of the old class-war parties, that we really will change politics for good. To that end we need inclusive policies which any fair–minded voter can see as reasonable, non-partisan, sensible, not exclusively pro-unions, not exclusively pro-business, exclusively pro people..
I’ll think about some.
JF
*Sorry about that. Thinking in slogans can be catching.
This video will make your blood boil, the title is self explanatory.
“Talking Brexit and the Law with Robin Tilbrook!”
https://youtu.be/QvjwrPHTkck
It is a case of the colonial power owning the apparatus of State.
The Good thing about true democracy is that the Executive can be taken over by the people who of course demand independence (and that is what has happened) but even then there is always stiff resistance.
It is now a battle of wills.
An excellent video and we should all support Robin. It was interesting to hear his views on not only our corrupt parliament but also the courts. What hope is there for this country if we cannot trust parliament or the courts,
There isn’t any hope – we are stuffed.
We have to continue to keep our eyes on the goal of draining the swamp! We cannot lose heart. Perhaps I shall be unpopular if I say that in my opinion this is where UKIP comes in. UKIP needs to rebuild and trust Richard Braine to do the business. I met him the other day and he is the most moderate radical I’ve yet encountered. Presentable, quick on the draw, knowledgeable and a lot more forgiving than I am. All that we need is a new NEC in November. Of course there may be dodgy dealings, and if there is that particular avenue will be closed. Hopefully something else will emerge. I agree with all those who don’t trust TBP for the long term. There are a lot of young people on our side which is heartening. They all know that they have to toe the educational line to get the marks but they don’t subscribe to any of it.
One way or another, too many people have begun to understand Globalism to hide the intentions any longer, and more are ready than we think.
Deirdre,
I agree that, from what I have seen of Richard Braine, he may indeed be the person to oversee UKIP’s rise from the ashes.
Unfortunately, though, I don’t think it will be in time to save the country from Johnson’s BRINO or not leaving at all.
For now, whatever reservations people may have about The Brexit Party and Farage, we have to put our faith in them (and give our votes to them) knowing that they are our only hope in trying to ensure that we can, once again, become like any other country that isn’t in the EU.
Unfortunately, UKIP appears to be toxic. Whole branches have moved sticks to TBP because they see no future under the Battenites who appear to be obsessed with Islam rather than winning Brexit.
It is now obvious that not only is our Democracy an illusion, so is our Justice.
George Soros is someone at the root of all of our globalist problems, here’s a very interesting video on the creature. All very relevant to many things that are happening at the moment, including Brexit, you’ll see if you watch the video.
“60 Minutes: One Evil Man – The Exposé on George Soros”
https://youtu.be/f8Vjp89vmYQ
Evil indeed yet he is allowed to continue…