Goodness gracious me! Yesterday evening our pratfall of clowns voted for four amendments – and the result?
NO – NO – NO – NO
You have to laugh! I tried to watch yesterday’s proceedings, I really did – but as the Parliament TV Channel didn’t show us the entertaining bare bums and tits of protesters in the Visitors’ Gallery, I switched off. If you must, you can watch ‘that’ event here – I hope removing the glue with which they attached themselves was exceedingly painful!
The meagre presence of MPs on both sides showed clearly that they had already made up their minds. It was nothing but yet another opportunity for wimmin MPs to screech, for backbench MPs to ‘show’ their ‘passion’, so their hapless constituents can see how hard they work.
Their main argument was “Compromise” and “Unity”. One of the most inane speeches came from a Labour backbencher who, arguing for a 2nd referendum, said this would be ‘the workers’ Brexit’ (yes, really!). The other point was that Brexit is now soo different from the one we voted for in 2016 that surely ‘The People’ must now have another vote.
This “BRINO” is indeed a mess – do the MPs and Ms May think we’re still so ignorant that we haven’t noticed that they created this mess which they now want us to sanction, be it in a 2nd referendum or a GE? They better think again!
Before those votes – again on paper, with the session suspended for 30 minutes and ‘that’ clock being shown (I can tell you it’s about a minute slow) – before those votes an exasperated Andrew Lilico summed the choices up in this tweet.
In a nutshell, the ‘compromise’ the Remain Parliament wants is between ‘Remain and ‘Remain’. Nobody seems to have informed them that one cannot compromise when a binary question was asked and answered. There’s either IN or OUT, nothing in between, no matter how prettily they want to dress it up.
When the staunch conservative editor of “Conservative Home” describes yesterday’s proceedings as ‘Groundhog Day’ you know that the patience even of Tory members is rapidly running out.
One perfect example for the petulant childishness of those Remain MPs is Mr Nick Boles whose precious amendment was voted down yet again. He left the chamber and the Party in a huff – watch the clip here.
For a succinct description of what was on offer yesterday and what wasn’t, you can do no better than read this morning’s diary entry by the unsurpassed Sir John Redwood.
Of course Ms May’s reaction to this latest disaster was to turn into Nanny again, threatening these unruly kids, a.k.a. MPs, with the bogeyman of a GE (paywalled, here).
We ignorant, uninformed plebs know of course that this would give the EU the perfect pretext to ‘give’ us the long extension Mr Tusk so dearly wants.
I believe this is also the one solution the string-pullers and puppet-handlers in Whitehell prefer because the civil serpents have now put the necessary legislation in place for running the elections to the EU Parliament in May.
What next? Cabinet will meet today, in a five-hour session – the first three hours ‘without civil serpents’ present so ministers can speak freely (paywalled, here). However, if you thought that the Whitehell Mandarins were now perhaps realising that the only honourable way out of this mess is to leave with the WTO deal, a.k.a “crash out with No Deal”, then think again!
In an unprecedented intervention the Top Mandarin, the cabinet secretary Sir Mark Sedwill, presented cabinet ministers with a top ‘gloom-and-doom’ letter in the hope to make them toe Ms May’s line (here). Except for hordes of locusts and plagues it’s got everything in it, even the threat of ‘direct rule in Ni”, to force those pesky DUP MPs into line.
The political pundits in the Remain MSM were scrabbling overnight for some gossip, trying to predict the outcome of that Cabinet meeting, for example:
“The Times understands that Philip Hammond, the chancellor, will tell the cabinet today that the government has to make its own compromise proposal or admit that parliament has failed “and put it back to the people in a referendum” since the party and the country cannot afford an election. Mr Hammond is understood to believe that any compromise would have to involve attaching a customs union to the withdrawal agreement, an option he is “not enthusiastic” about.” (paywalled link)
Observers of the May Disaster Saga will remember that Mr Hammond, the fiercest remainer in Cabinet, has done his utmost, using the power the Treasury, to thwart Leave at every opportunity, from withholding funds to expedite a No Deal to constant Project Fear pronouncements.
However, all is not lost! Another wishy-washy May minister has now ‘converted’ to ‘No Deal’: Mr Jeremy Hunt (paywalled link). It is of course extremely unlikely that his campaign to replace Ms May as PM has anything at all to do with this conversion! How dare you think that!
Unlike the other MSM, The Express always looks across the Channel to see what our “friends” in the EU are up to. Well, their reports of a threatening Euro meltdown (here), of Merkel and Macron looking powerless negotiating with China (here), of Mr Varadkars’ utter panic’ and an imminent emergency meeting with Merkel and May (here) left me rather gleeful.
These reports inevitably lead to the question why it is that our Remain government and Parliament are so keen to cave in to the powerless, crumbling EU and why they are so utterly shitscared (excuse my French) of the WTO/No Deal Brexit.
But there’s one option which the whole lot, from Whitehell Mandarins to the government, the HoC and the Remain MSM won’t ever talk about: proroguing Parliament. Yesterday evening, the DT (paywalled) published an article by John Finnis QC (Hon), Professor of Law emeritus at the University of Oxford, who makes the case brilliantly:
“The Commons has since February been dealing with Brexit in a manner diverging more and more widely from centuries-old practices and standing orders historically proven necessary to governing in accordance with a Westminster-type constitution, perhaps our greatest contribution to civilised political life in many countries.”
He continues, driving this home:
“The Government, therefore, can with full legitimacy consider the House’s imminent operations illegitimate in intent and chaotic in effect. These are illegitimate operations which, in the context of the House’s constitutionally legitimate rejections of the deal, are prejudicial to the conduct of government and international relations, and to the delivery of something this Parliament and its predecessor have approved, again and again, in considerable detail: carrying out a decision of the British people to exercise their treaty-based (Article 50) right to terminate their law-generating treaty relations with the European Union and its other members.”
I’m sure Ms May and her cabinet are blissfully unaware of this masterly exposition! Perhaps they should ask themselves why, in the case of a GE, we would ‘honour’ them by re-electing them when they all have so blatantly acted illegally and unconstitutionally.
They better realise that it’s not us voters who are ignorant: we know the facts better than they do. Disdaining us contemptuously by projecting their own proven ignorance on us will not work.
So keep emailing your MPs, tell them that they can only redeem themselves by getting us the WTO Brexit.
Brexit Betrayal + 10!
KBO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63IcW4eo4uM
Everybody needs to ignore the pathetic rhetoric peddled by the MSM about the ‘howwible far-right AfD’ and watch this speech, in the Bundestag, by Alice Weidel on Brexit and the sheer stupidity of Merkel and the EU itself. Share it far and wide,,,
Perhaps we need more statesmen/women like Frau Weidel and less simpering, posturing, out of touch elitists in our own Parliament…
Just watched this in virtual disbelief, no, almost real disbelief. This speech by Alice Weidel was like getting a getting a glass of ice cold water in the Sahara such was her crystal clear analysis of the situation.
But if the sellout of our country continues to the end where we are locked in to the EU then the avenue to work from within to really change (dismantle) the EU exists given the amount of dissatisfaction there is in Europe and here in UK. Almost worth staying in for. (ok that’s a joke).
I realised also that if Cameron had achieved the piddling amount he asked for as Alice referred to I would have been a remainer, now a 100% leaver.
The conduct in the Bundestag was amazing. Alice’s supporters were clapping, the others silent and respecting her right to speak, apart from one heckler. When I look at our bunch of morons in comparison it makes me want to weep.
So you think only wealthy people need apply to be UKIP MEPs then Stout? Hmmm……that doesn’t sound a good idea to me.
Gerard Batten has made clear that only people with a clear, proven, lengthy track record of loyalty to UKIP, as a long-term, substantive party, will be selected as candidates. That is a major step away from the unreliable, short-term, self-interested turncoats that appear to have been favoured by previous leaders.
As an aside, there appears to be very limited coverage here of the depth of support within UKIP for Gerard; no acknowledgement of the warmth of the standing ovations that he has received on his successful Northern Tour meetings; little recognition of the stabilizing progress of the party in the past 12 months; and scant photos and reporting of the encouraging UKIP ‘Make Brexit Happen’ Rally in Whitehall on 29th March.
The later stages of the short video below shows the many, many people wanting to shake Gerrard by the hand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12nEGJi7rBk
I assume, Stout Yeoman, that you were not one of them.
The House of Commons is a shambles. And I think this is all deliberate.
You could ask them to vote on a motion to increase their salary by another 10% and they would probably vote against it at the moment.
They’ve rejected TM’s WA. They’ve rejected ‘No-Deal’. They’ve rejected this ‘Common Market 2.0’ customs union. They’ve rejected revoking Article 50. They’ve rejected a second referendum.
So what exactly do they want?
What they want is ‘chaos’. Only when there is utter chaos, will you have people begging for some kind of ‘order’.
They’ve had two years to come to some kind of arrangement to leave the EU, and it is now a few days after the ‘deadline’ was meant to have passed, that we are in a situation where we are no closer to having any kind of plan for leaving the EU.
There is one obvious plan of course, and that is to ‘just leave’. The door is there, it is wide open, and we should be ready and brave enough to just walk out of it. “I will survive” and all that.
It should be clear to everybody now that there is absolutely no way to actually ‘leave’ the EU with any kind of ‘deal’ or arrangement, except one that keeps you bound to the EU and all of its tentacles. And therein is the ‘trap’ of Article 50 fully exposed for all to witness.
The Establishment does not want the UK to leave the EU, indeed far from wanting ‘less’ EU it actually wants ‘more’. But the Establishment knows that in order to keep us in, it must overturn the democratic vote of 2016 without being seen to be anti-democratic.
“It must be up to the people to decide.” Therefore this is directing us all towards another bloody referendum, which will be rigged so that Remain wins and then the whole “will of the people” will be thrown back at us. That’s how ‘democracy’ works in the EU.
And far from bringing people back together, as Tom Watson claims (the Labour MP living in London that ‘represents’ the constituency of West Bromwich East that voted Leave) it will just cause even further divisions.
MPs would rather chance a second referendum than losing their seats at a General Election.
I see Batten is appealing for £500,000 to fight for MEP seats in EU Parliament elections if the UK becomes involved again.
Given the generous salaries, pensions and expenses and fine dining life style of MEPs shouldn’t the candidates stump up rather than ordinary members? 50 candidates would entail a contribution of £10K each.
If £10K is too much then a minimum of £5K should be required to reduce the demand on ordinary members.
£500k is a lot of money for an impoverished party like ours. I wonder whether a leaflet would be necessary. It would become necessary only if the Brexit Party were to put one out with Farage’s phizog on the front. I do not see why people should be accepted onto the party list unless they agree to make a substantial contribution should they be successful.
It is time to start relying more on social media to get our message across.
Stout Yeoman Loyal, long serving Kippers who have served their branches as officers should have the first chance of putting themselves forward as candidates at a reduced cost. No-one who has not served as a Branch officer for five years should be allowed to stand as candidates.
Good point. Perhaps they can put it on their expenses claims. I doubt Juncker pays for his booze and such a claim would be far more legitimate..
GB could always tell the MEPs that they won’t get selected unless they put in the necessary cash, Stout. After all, if ordinary members like us want to stand for Parliament, we have to find our own £500, don’t we?
I absolutely agree. I have contributed locally and nationally on a pension. I have also regularly emailed my remainer MP in our Leave constituency with all the facts on leaving on WTO terms and not had one reply.
Compromise is not an art. It’s blind craven submission or Keeping most of what he wants for the aggressor. Art , my aunt fanny.
On of my theories is :-
Uncounted generations of politicians have played ‘ follow the leader’ and prospered.
For the last 50 years politicians have also been instructed by their Civil Servant (s)
It is my belief, or one of them, that the current mess is orchestratedby our Civil Service and the EU commission ( Also civil servants ),to continue in increasing power but serving different masters increasing power and sidelining politicians to be as unimportant as MEPs
When Cameron failedto send the Art 50 letter and May waited My kids and relatives have been buying gold. Proper gold preferably jewelry,[ and small assets, and at least planning what to do. Not a piece of paper saying the have bought some for you ( eg Paper money ). How daft can you get ].
At the moment ( by default ) I believe block and chain is another huge swindle But I haven’t tried to work it out yet, So . Not in stone. The fact that economies are issueing them is very worrying indeed. I suspect it’s another activity like Quantitive Easing. Just debasing our coin.
If anyone needs to know the history of our involvement with the EU, how our sovereignty was sold and why we became a province of the EU this is an excellent appraisal. Should be compulsory viewing for all remainers. Please share.
Nicholas Szkiler – Brexit Betrayal or Treason?
https://youtu.be/q8hw-X3V9Jo
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mervyn-king-calls-for-no-deal-brexit-after-six-months-of-preparation-8q8q9c37m
The Rt Hon Dominic Grieve, currently being driven out from his constituency , said it would be a “national disaster”
One of them is a barefaced liar .
Which one?
Peter
Grieve was sore because he said, his local branch had been infiltrated by UKIP. Ha ha. OK then for the Tories to do it to us but not vice versa.
Maybe we should organise a dozen indicative votes for such a complex binary question.
Another interesting video about looming economic catastrophe, it too talks about Brexit.
“UK Insider Reveals The US Will Not Escape Pain & Agony —What Happened Abroad Is About To Happen Here”
https://youtu.be/qY7OlRVTf2g
Mark Sutherlands / Lisa Haven
I sometimes have a look at the X22 Report, sometime I agree with it sometimes I don’t, alternative media though can be interesting.
This particular episode of the X22 report is interesting because it starts of talking about Brexit.
Also it talks about the US economy and how countries are moving away from the US dollar.
Russia for instance is dumping dollars and buying gold and so are more and more other countries including China.
It seems that the above countries can see exactly what is coming down the pike economically and financially and are planning to avoid it.
I think the US will survive as it has enough resources to provide for itself, we don’t.
Europe though will be a black hole when this hits and we need to be gone and find new trading partners: now!
What Parliament is doing to us is just plain selling us down the river and it will end catastrophically for us if we don’t stop it.
The mainstream media in the UK just don’t discuss much what is really happening to the world economy, just propaganda.
“Countries Are Detaching Themselves From The [CB] Financial System, On Schedule”
https://youtu.be/nsDt6-M4mgo
Once again The Great Remainer Parliament fails to come up with a suitable option of “Remain in Brexit Clothing” with which to fool the electorate. It must be obvious to everyone by now that both the present Government and Parliament are unfit for purpose. To avoid the long term catastrophe of Remain, or, a Half-in Half-out Brexit the only solution is for Theresa May to prorogue Parliament now and allow the default position of No Deal to take place. This should provide the clarity which the EU have been demanding, eliminate the uncertainty for business, and, truly respect the referendum result.
According to another commentating about R4 last night , the remainers were postulating that the failed votes now show a positive move towards a BRINO! He writes ‘allice in wonderland stuff indeed’ Have a good day folks, and once again Debbie and Viv thanks for all your reports, an area of sanity on a daily basis, thank God.
Just in case some who want it have not yet signed it, here is the yougov petition which has been on 98k odd for around a week possibly longer…not many more votes need and MPs will have to debate themselves being temporarily shut down to allow the will of the British people!:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/237487
The Prime Minister should advise Her Majesty the Queen to prorogue Parliament suspending the current parliamentary session until 2nd April 2019 to prevent any attempts by parliamentarians to thwart Brexit on 29th March 2019. Preparations for no-deal/WTO will continue.
The Prime Minister’s deal has been rejected. No further deal is available from the EU. Remaining in the EU is not an option. Extension or revocation of Article 50 is not an option. I believe the British people voted to leave with no mention of a deal and that WTO rules, to which Britain will default on 29th March 2019, are in Britain’s best interests. We may get a better deal after, but not until, we have left.
This is the best option. The Government and Parliament are a disgrace and unable to fulfil their obligations to both people and the Crown. We deserve better than this. Get them out before they cause anymore shame and damage to this country.