Breaking +++ Breaking +++ Breaking
Johnson is telling the nation that there is a deal, at the press conference starting at 3pm today.
While Johnson is late for his conference as usual, here’s Sir John Redwood:
“Deal? – There is no point in talking about a media mooted deal until there is a published text to read and analyse.” (link)
I concur. Let’s wait and see and while the usual suspects celebrate, let’s hope that the sell-out isn’t going to be too dreadful.
Still, it’s an end to the four years of prevarication, of waiting, of shilly-shallying. Given the coin madness gripping the world except China, it remains to be seen if we can celebrate a new beginning.
But let’s crack open the champagne for Brexit anyway – if not now, when?
KBO!
Christmas day now.
I’ve just looked at the gov. Summary.
No explicit mention of the E.W.A.
Loadsa waffle garbage of course.
Typical EU double speak. UNDOUBTEDLY AS VIV SAYS – A TICKING TIME BOMB. As EU always produce. And we all know how they negotiate in good faith.
John Redwood said yesterday on Youtube it needed a ‘Get Out Clause’. Can’t find that now.
P.S. Maybe one good point. I think it guards us from losing our energy supply in the near future – the energy that comes across Europe.
Perhaps there IS still a way to stop it going through Westminster Parliament. Or at least an amendment along the lines of a ‘get out clause’.
There is no way this has been sorted at the last minute. It has been cooking for months.
As the man said “Never count your chickens……’til they’ve crossed the ENGLISH Channel”
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I don’t expect anything good from Boris’ deal but maybe we have gone as far as possible without a new government that puts our country and its people first. That will take time. So, in the meantime, we should pursue another strategy; the destruction of the EU. Let’s seek those good people in Europe who are also opposed to the EU and work together to bring it about.
Let us also try to open eyes to the real and present threat of the Great Reset, long in the planning and with the object of creating a truly Orwellian world. We have already seen the use of Covid and the Great Global Warming Scam in pursuit of absolute control over us.
We must resist on all fronts, remembering the efforts of our parents and grandparents to save our country from the tyrannical intent of the enemy across the Channel. The present war might be hidden from view but just as much a threat, maybe much more and of truly global scope.
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO VIVIAN AND DEBBIE. TWO WONDERFULL DEDICATED LADIES; INDEPENDACE DAILY IS MY DAILY REFERENCE OF WHATS GOING ON IN THE UK FROM THE FRENCH SIDE OF THE ENGLISH CHANNEL; PAUL
Merry Christmas to you as well, Paul – and thank you for your kind words!
Thank you Paul and a very happy Christmas to you and to your family. Please keep us updated on what happens on your side of the English Channel (I refuse to call it La Manche! It’s ENGLISH!).
The MSM are typically fawning over the deal, and they haven’t even see it’s contents yet!
Just like the fool who assumes the biggest sized Christmas present box is the best gift. They haven’t even opened it first.
Lets see Johnson properly questioned on the deals contents, not just rubber stamped. As we know Johnson does not do detail, lets hope someone like Andrew Neil gets to question him.
I dare say there will a a great deal of eggs on faces once proper analysis is complete of the text, you can only bluff so much. Expect a government distraction tactic involving Covid…
Judging by the Treaty of Rome there will be hundreds of little ticking time bombs in the text. These
will of course start to go off long after Bozo has retired. The danger is with a new treaty it will bind the hands
of future governments in perpetuity.
Looking at this governments track record so far, my expectations are not that high, my gut feeling is this deal is a stinker.
From what it looks like, the EU kept the majority of our fish, they have free access to our market (a £91 billion trade deficit) costing them nothing to do so, they have annexed Northern Ireland and Gibraltar, tied the UK into a virtual level playing field and you can bet Bozo has agreed to match the EU’s future Eco-loon green regulations. To top it off Bozo’s new point based system will actually increase immigration, more numbers will arrive than when we had EU free movement?
Good deal? Good Government? No to both.
I await Torquil ‘s response. In the meantime I await now a deal with the British People to clean up our power structure, and sleazed society. But at least we have started, even though with a chain round the ankles dragged by EU. We do know, however, that a deal with Germany is infinitely better than with the EU power structure.. Let us see. All the Mrs May treachery has to be checked. I am also worried that the BBC seems pleased. But I suspect we’ve seen nothing yet.The EU believe that they have a leevelplaying field. That would be HORROR.
Well, until we see the actual text of the Deal, it is hard to give a defnite opinion. A lot will depend on the wording of the part regarding Extraditions.
Why do I consider Extraditions to be crucial?
Because under the current European Arrest Warrant system, any EU prosecutor can have ANYONE in Britain arrested and forcibly transported to a jail in Europe, showing NO EVIDENCE. The lack of a requirement for evidence means that any spurious, and/or defamatory, accusation can be put forward, to cover the real reason which may be political.
This means that the hard judicial power to have a person’s liberty taken away, or at any rate to have their reputation destroyed, can be used as a political battering-ram, to remove – physically – political opponents. It could be used, say, in the run-up to the next GE, to penalise a Brexiteer party, to the advantage of a Rejoiner faction, which could then win the election.
As things stand now, British courts and judges, faced with a EAW, simply have to comply. They can refuse if they think that the person’s “fundamental rights” will not be respected, but “fundamental rights” have to be those defined by the European Convention on Human Rights, and since all EU states are signed up to the ECHR, this is not considered a valid reason for refusing a demand for extradition.
I put the position 10 days ago in this article published in the Express:
https://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/1372705/Brexit-latest-news-EU-laws-european-arrest-warrant-extradition-Boris-Johnson
I subsequently discovered that in February the UK govt published a negotiating position paper, which would have allowed the “fundamental rights” of a person to be those defined by UK law. Since Habeas Corpus – as we understand it – is not recognised or practised by any EU continental system, nor indeed by the ECHR, this would be a valid reason for refusing to extradite a person.
Unfortunately Baroness Williams’s statement on Dec.1st, that the govt is not asking for any prima facie evidence as a condition to grant extraditions, seems to indicate that they did not wish to continue down this path. We shall have to wait and see what the text of the Deal specifies.
Before parliament ratifies this treaty will it be entitled to a full report and financial assessment of all ransom monies to be paid to the EU together with details of any ongoing costs to be paid and details of any ongoing liabilities for any failures or collapse of any EU financial structures structures..
In my opinion this information is of paramount importance we must be entitled to know now the full extent of our liabilities.
I must confess I am distressed by our signing any deal with this gang of crooks and would prefer no deal/WTO and I expect now true Leavers will fight tooth and nail to prevent our ratification in parliament. BRINO is not an option.
Well said Sir John. We had enough of that kind of media preemption with the Biden “win”. No doubt the deal will be as rotten as everything else gushing out of No10 but I live to be disappointed.
Merry Christmas Viv, Debbie especially plus Norman, Flyer and all other contributors and commentors. A friend in need is a friend indeed. I never need much of an excuse to pop a cork so will raise a glass to you all tomorrow. Tonight is homemade sloe gin with an Aldi sloe gin mince pie though.
Oooh, homemade sloe gin! I think I’d better try mine, just to see if it’s OK, you understand.
We have already opened the homemade damson gin. No willpower! And a fruity gulp plus distinctive aftertaste. Wonderful.
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