Prepare yourselves: we’ll pay for this war thanks to our decadent politicians
The ‘little local war’ in central Europe goes on. According to the international MSM, there’s no other news suitable to grace their front pages. There are ‘frontliner’ reports galore, dripping with hyperbole, with headlines like “Kyiv under attack in ‘horrific rocket strikes not seen since 1941” right at the top of the DT’s online edition (paywalled link).
It is the time of the MSM armchair generals and ‘expert analysts’ displaying their anti-Putin credentials. They’re now explaining to us the whys and wherefores while still lapping up Ukrainian demands as if they were the wisdom of the ages. There are the cries for’ sanctions’. As far as Ukrainian politicians are concerned, they cannot go far enough:
“Kyiv said that its Western allies would have the blood of innocent Ukrainians on their hands if Europe failed to restrict Russia’s access to the world’s main payment clearing system.” (paywalled link)
Demand the economic destruction of Ukraine’s Western allies rather than demand the West get their fingers out and talk to Putin – that’ll work! But then again, talking to Putin was and is anathema. The sanctions the mighty West has been imposing so far are all directed at single Russians, especially Russian oligarchs. I found this reason extremely convincing: (not!)
“A UK diplomatic source said in relation to the five oligarchs sanctioned: ‘These are people who have international lifestyles. They come to Harrods to shop, they stay in our best hotels when they like, they send their children to our best public schools, and that is what’s being stopped. So that these people are essentially persona non grata in every major Western European capital in the world. That really bites.’ (link)
Oh dear. Do I detect a bit of … resentment and jealousy? Starmer of course supports these personal sanctions while Ms May, in full-on nanny manner, said ‘Russia needs to feel the cold wind of isolation’. Yes, that’ll bite as well – but let’s perhaps remember that not all of the world is singing from the West’s hymn sheet. ‘Teh Rich’, Russian or not, will always find a welcome.
Meanwhile Fraser Nelson writes in the DT that this event ‘changes the world as we know it’, comparing it to the 9/11 shock. Well, excuse me – but I seem to remember that those 9/11 terrorists struck out of the blue, that the international spy agencies were caught out cold. Never mind – our esteemed journalists are scrambling to get another thoughtful thought-piece published while the going is good, weak historical comparisons notwithstanding.
Mr Nelson thinks that “we” can survive without Russian gas and oil -even though we don’t import that much from Russia anyway. It’s a nice tale though, nicely helping the green-renewable-industrial-complex and net zero, with extra money needed for ‘more military’:
“It means finding alternative sources of energy to Russian oil and gas – as well as funding a far-greater military presence on Nato’s eastern flank that makes it quite clear what the consequences of any Russia salami-slicing would be. A bigger, more heavily-deployed military will represent an upheaval, a change of mindset – and a battle that no one wishes to have. But the other methods of keeping the peace in Europe have just been exhausted. If Putin is to be deterred from his ambitions for a Greater Russia, there really is no alternative.” (paywalled link)
That reminded me forcefully of a song popular in the late 1870s:
“We don’t want to fight but by Jingo if we do, We’ve got the ships, we’ve got the men, we’ve got the money too, We’ve fought the Bear before, and while we’re Britons true, The Russians shall not have Constantinople.” (link)
Only now we’ve got no ships, no men and no money … Turning our Armed Forces into a ‘diverse’ and ‘genderised’ Force was more important. While “we” worried about woke and gendering Russia did not. Richard Littlejohn has a fine essay on this in the DM – worth reading (link).
Now “we” will pay for that and for that ‘little local war’ which our leaders didn’t prevent. No, there’s no ‘alternative’, just as there was no alternative to getting Ukraine to observe the Minsk II protocol, rather than provoke Russia, just as there was no alternative to refusing to talk to Putin about his demands in regard to NATO. James Forsyth remarks in his opinion piece in The Times:
“The West has long been clear that it would not fight for Ukraine. The strategy was to try to deter Russia through economic measures. Johnson has threatened sweeping sanctions designed to “hobble” the Russian economy but, inexplicably, they were not in place before the invasion began. He and other western leaders certainly can inflict sanctions that would make Russian eyes water. The problem is that they’d make British eyes water, too: a point he’s rather reluctant to accept.” (link, paywalled)
Firstly – if the West was clear that it wouldn’t fight for the Ukraine, why have Western leaders pushed Ukrainians into this fight anyway? Secondly – doesn’t this beg the question if the whole thing, now become a shooting war, was only a means by Western swamp dwellers to damage the Russian economy in order to get rid of Putin?
And this is what “we” are going to have to pay for, literally? Is the nudge unit nudging us into accepting economic hardship – for this? There’s more (my emphasis):
“The prime minister’s refusal to set this out clearly has consequences. Senior Tories admit that his failure to do so thus far will add to the Kremlin’s sense that the West is too decadent to take the measures that will really hurt. It won’t be popular, but western governments need to prepare their voters for the fact that standing up to Russian aggression will lead to a spike in energy prices — making filling up your car and heating your home more expensive — and will send inflation still higher.” (link, paywalled)
Impoverishing us, keeping us poor, means we’ll have no time nor energy to fight against ‘our leaders’. There’s also international banking and ‘SWIFT’ from which Russia should be kicked out. The DM has this little report about Johnson valiantly striving at the G7 virtual meeting to achieve this, but the EU is resisting, especially Germany and Italy link). How dare they worry about their economies!
It doesn’t matter that Russia and China have developed alternatives which they can use for trade between them, not when a Tory politician pooh-pooh’d this, telling the DM:
“’Suspending Russia from Swift is the single most effective, immediate act available to inflict serious harm on their financial system. Whilst Russia has developed alternatives, they are not the same, and there would be major dislocation.” (link)
Sure there’d be ‘major dislocations’ but, by jingo, “we” can take it, right? The PM was posturing on the grand G7 stage, putting the lie to the fact that Brits are pragmatic and not driven by ideology, trying to make us look principled (my emphasis):
“European concerns are said to centre on potential damage to their own economies if they are unable to buy Russian gas using the system. But ex-Cabinet minister Robert Jenrick said the crisis was now so serious that countries had to accept sacrifices to punish Russia.” (link)
That’s when my latest mug hit the wall! As far as I know, and correct me if I’m wrong, we are not at war with Russia. As far as I know, and correct me if I’m wrong, this ‘little local war’ is the outcome of both the glee with which western politicians, from the US president down, have given space and prominence to Ukrainian demands and posturings, while no sensible attempts were made to address Putin’s demands, the ‘diplomatic’ shuttling and zoom phones of foreign secretaries notwithstanding.
In consequence this means that “we” have to accept that our household energy bills will rise to e.g. £3,000 in the autumn, or so the experts predict. “We” will have to sacrifice our economic well-being for the Ukraine when we’ll face inflation which will rise to over 8% (link, link paywalled).
There are parallels between the past two years where the PM’s ‘sciency posturing’ bought us so much misery and damaged our economy without our voices ever being heard and now, when the same scientifically illiterate, innumerate politicians from the PM down are blithely going to heap more hardship on us thanks to their economic illiteracy.
It’s not “we” who are decadent – it’s our leaders, it’s the Westminster swamp dwellers. Still, “we” will pay, as always: unasked and seemingly unwilling to really change things. Everybody happy now?
Apparently Putin has taken out ten American bio-weapons laboratories so far. What!!!!! Isn’t China’s contribution enough?
Lisa. America has huge interests in Ukraine but Snopes the fact checking site (no idea who funds them) questions if this claim is true.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/02/24/us-biolabs-ukraine-russia/
Whether the labs have been attacked I don’t know, but I had heard several sources talking about them being there.
Knowing who funds all the fact checkers, anything that ‘needs’ to be ‘fact checked’ is almost by definition true. They have not yet realised what a giveaway it is.
https://foodbabe.com/do-you-trust-snopes-you-wont-after-reading-how-they-work-with-monsanto-operatives/
Seen David Starkie, twice on GB TV, he believes Putin won`t stop, that he sees himself as some sort of returned Tsar who will restore all the territory that used to be Russian,a century ago don`t quite know what that encompasses, but the Austo-Hungarian Empire gets a mention.
Whatever his ambitions are, I am sure he is acting now due to his detecting weakness in the Western spirit (as the RAF say LMF, lack of Moral Fibre),
I`d go further than that we are rotten due to relentless sabotage from internal enemies (placemen?) who have been operating since the war and for us, culminating in the Remain sustained campaign (and still operating) and the new Woke and attendant BLM antics and WEF blackguards.
While not absolutely taking all of Starkie on board, I learn that Finland is not a member of NATO and wouldn`t join when offered for fear of provoking the Russians, well I bet they are doing a bit of shivering now! and still not wanting to provoke the Russians, as the EU did a few years back at the time of the Orange Revolution (?) I remember Nigel saying in the EU parliament that the EU had blood on their hands.
I only have one solution to deter further Russian aggretion and that is return to the Cold War, the USA to re-occupy Europe massively to back up NATO with air land and sea power (100,000 troops at least and institute a return of Lease Lend, particularly to feed the millions of refugees who are going to descend on us , by the minute and also to supply and pay for all the extra gas and fossil fuel we will require, until we can get our own supplies going again.
I would not be against our declaring a state of emergency in which all Greenbobbery legislation would be reversed, together with all diversity and gender bending suspended …………….. and that`s just for starters..
Oh and one final thing if the EU want participate in our supervision of NATO in cohorts with the US, they must permanently cease the WAR they are presently waging against us
You may not agree with Rodney Atkinson Roger but this article is interesting. 10 minute read.
http://freenations.net/a-friendship-squandered-a-peace-spurned-a-bear-provoked-critical-western-industrial-dependence-on-russia/
Viv. You have summed it up admirably!
For Gawds sake Boris start using every last ounce of U.K.’s own fossil fuels.
At least that would be a start.
AND push ahead with all and every way to use of nuclear energy. Nuclear energy does not need all our food producing land area to be covered over, like your stupid carbon neutral ideas.
Science illiteracy and Economic illiteracy just about sums it up as far as our ‘leaders’ are concerned.
PB- are you saying their Bacchus literacy does not count?
On a serious note, from my experience, I would not rely on shale gas. From experience, big doubt this will come good.
And keep anyone from Bakersfield away. Let them blow themselves up at their home, not our home. See also the number of drilling / production shale rigs they have burned down. Pictures show that shale can produce gas . . . it burns well! Positive – zero to low hydrogen sulphide content.
The two wells already drilled can be recovered from cementing up, depending on how it is done – and, so long as they dont cut off the wellhead area. HSE doesnt like potentially live wells to just lie about for donks (years). Their Policy is to produce or seal up (make safe).
Nuclear – Ostrailia will supply Western Pacific powerhouses, Tokyo et al, with uranium. The other big producer, uSA will supply, well, uSA (special relationship you know). Poccia to China and the highest bidder – if you are good.
Bottom line, You-rope will be left out in the cold – in all senses.
Pauline………..Agreed on that. And also he needs to reverse all the cutbacks that have happened over the years to our armed forces including of course his own government, and increase the size of the Army to at least 250,000 soldiers, with a much increased capability of the RAF in terms of fighter planes and build more frigates for the Royal Navy. All these cuts have been in the name of modernisation, but in truth to save money. And he needs to call a halt on selling off MOD land, as the increase of soldiers and equipment etc need to be based somewhere. Unfortunately it probably won’t happen nor will the re-opening of coal mines or the re-opening of the oil and gas fields under the North Sea, because Johnson is all hot air and nothing else. At this juncture we need a prime minister at the helm who is not only proficient with the country’s finances and energy needs, but one who has a Forces background who understands the need for a country like ours to be able to properly defend itself. I am struggling to understand exactly what expertise Johnson has in anything, apart from writing books and periodicals, which most people do not/will not read.
PB + CH tag team- Reopening oil and gas fields. These are more or less all offshore around Britain. Onshore production has always been miniscule in comparison.
Gas fields are produced until there is no more gas. Reopen the Southern North Sea V fields (Vixen, Vulcan, Victor and so on) and apart from the cost, you will produce precisely nothing.
Oil fields, can produce 30 to 40 pct of oil in place. This is due to mobility factors and other production problems.
Tertiary production by water flooding is standard. CO2 (the return of the Anti-Christ) flooding is fine if you have it ‘on tap’. Otherwise it must be gathered and shipped to a platform.
Nodding donkeys are an onshore thing and not applicable. Think of a one inch pipe going up and down on surface, and hence back and forth three miles downhole in a horizontal well. The wear and tear is too high, think wall reduction and pipe parting 10,000 ft underground and in the way – no worky. Electric submersible pumps – see life expectancy.
Intermediate fields, such as Brent started as oil field and during production became gas wells due to bubble point changes. Repressurising is expensive, uncertain and has diminishing returns.
Brent finally gave up on keeping above bubble point, depressurised and turned it into a gas field. Now it is gassed out(!).
Good idea PB CH but without insult intended, like an uninformed politician:-
Horatio Ponsenby-Smythe MP,
‘I propose we have a tunnel between Scotland and Norway. My mate can guarantee to do it for only 400 thousand million pounds – just the feasibility of course.
(That particular idea would have to overcome the random seismic movements on the route, but what do I know?)’.
With some experience of coal production, many abandoned pits had constant pumping operations to keep them ‘dry’. You shut them down, then they fill with water. It is not a five minute, tuppeny happeny cost to recapture the flooded galleries, only to find tunnel collapse and other deterioration.
MInistry of Defence has released estimates of Russian casualties: 2,800 soldiers, 80 tanks, 516 armoured vehicles, 10 aircarft and 7 helicopters. That’s of 3pm today. And despite what the Mail and others say Russian units are still 50km from Kiev, such is the resistance from Ukrainian units. I assume western satellite surveillance is the source of this.
I`m sorry Stout, but I heard on Sky TV that Russians are already in Norther Kiev
Oh well, if you heard it on Sky….
Where were these observers counting casualties and equipment, when invading Eye-rack for example?
To prevent steam coming out of our ears on a permanent basis (yours especially, Viv) may I suggest we all tune into GB News on TV, radio or YouTube. How they’ve managed to survive for this long in our PC, fluid gender, soppy world, I do not know, but long may they continue! Especially, listen to Nigel, Mark Steyn and Neill Oliver.
Thanks, Sonya – I second your suggestion. However, I’ll have to live with steam coming out of my ears and more shattered mugs because I believe it’s important to record the shenanigans, the turncoatery, the lies and sudden memory losses of the whole of the Westminster cabal as presented to us in their propaganda media.
With no TV, I watch GB News occasionally. Like you I hope they hang on (already by their fingernails) despite interviewing each other.
And look at that, a RED squirrel . . . . our PM leaving 2022 betting is going out past evens. Put another way he wont be going this year. I’ll update nearer the local elections.
And mind the doggies with them there mugs!
Biscotte……….with no TV myself, I agree with your notion about GB News. However, the production of the programmes leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion bordering on amateurish. Nigel Farage is by far and away the most accomplished, professional and interesting presenter closely followed by Michelle Dewsbury, but some of the others presenters, well……And the ludicrous supposed commercial breaks where they advertise other programmes is just so tedious and goes on and on. It makes me want to switch it off…
Not sure why the GBNews app & radio don’t have ordinary ads like TV. We’ve actually enjoyed some of the ads – never thought I’d say that. Seems popular with Welsh advertisers for some reason and we were always in stitches over the Raging Bull Biltong ad, especially when I found myself sitting next to a doppelganger for one of the actors when we went to see the Bond film. He even had the silly hat and kept it on throughout.
We enjoy Mark Steyn and Dominic Frisby; obviously, if we’re home, Nigel’s a must. Still screw up the sound sometimes though.
The online services are not allowed to transmit the adverts, hence the filler programme promotions.
I would place Steyn at the top because of the calibre of his guests and their grown up discussions as a opposed to interrogations of many others.
Sonya Porter. Yes,it is great listening to GB News in the car. When in conversation with people I always promote GB News items.
My three picks precisely, Sonya. Nigel for the practical, Mark for the sideways humour and surgical spearing of issues, after some wonderful informative mystery ride meandering, and Neil for his humanity.
I don’t think there has been a time when our leaders – from Biden to Von Leyen – have been more incompetent (ideologically blind) or, if there are historic parallels, then where that incompetence has been so simultaneously widespread across the West. Preoccupied by Russia, and prone as ever to wishful thinking and denial of reality, I fear Biden & the EU will let Iran off the hook even more than the deal they are working on currently does. ‘The West’ now faces four fronts: African and Middle East migration, Iran, China and Russia (which I list in my personal order of concern). The first will lead, is leading, to the dissolution of our societies and culture from within and at an increaing pace. The second may lead to the extinction of Israel, and the third is pure evil (consider the forced sterilsation of uighar women etc) that may yet rule the world. Putin has an unfortunate appetite for anschluss but the threat from that is limited in implication for the West. That is not to say I don’t feel sorry for ordinary Ukrainians – I do – and I hope the death toll does not become higher than it already is. The Ukraine government, a somewhat recent democracy (of sorts) in its aspiration to become ‘European’, should have played a longer game – Putin is in his sixties – and not least because the West, and the EU in particular, are paper tigers and cannot be relied on. Meanwhile, Biden, Trudeau, Macron, and Carrie Johnson (and the fifth columns within that they represent), to name just four leaders, give me more nightmares than Putin. For some years now I have visited a cafe where the manager is Ukrainian and we have become friendly – she let’s me practice my very rusty Russian – and she comes to work now red eyed having obviously been crying. At an emotional level I am horrifed for her and for ordinary Ukrainians, but on an intellectual level I say let Putin have Ukraine – for now. We have so much more to fight against and our governments now have an excuse to continue ducking the very real problems we face.
Ukraine, where next?
The exact parallel is Hitler’s invasion of Czechoslovakai, undertaken to “save” ethnic Germans living there.
He won’t be satisfied, an old man wanted to be remembered.
Nowhere is next. We have yet to see what the Russian body count will be, but Russian public opinion is unlikely to tolerate another Chechnya. Irrespective of that, NATO countries on the Baltic have the one thing Ukraine asked for and we failed to supply – modern surface to air missiles plus much else. I do not see anything that says he will not be satisfied. The Ukrainians, if their resistance is organised (and motivated enough) to make occupation costly, may yet see Putin unsatisfied. There is nowhere else to go after Ukraine.
Stout Yeoman. I agree with you. U.K. should have distanced itself entirely from arguments about Ukraine ages ago – back when Biden started the stirring.
Putin’s Russia never has been any threat to us.
What I find interesting is the timing of Putin’s invasion. Why now. at this moment in time? Why choose a time when the Covid distraction has run out of steam and another is needed? Is Putin in on the globalist masterplan?
The Russian speaking areas have been under constant bombardment for seven years, since a coup installed a pro-western government. I think that’s a fair definition of ‘save’, especially as they would vote to be autonomous. You know, the will of the people and all that.
Stout. Hubby and I have heated arguments over this. He believes that our leaders are incompetent, I believe that their ‘incompetence ‘ is deliberate.
Some of it may be deliberate, but not all of it. They are just not intelligent enough to control events or the narrative continuously across multiple domains. I think they are mainly incompetent allied to a lofty disdain for us hoi polloi. On some issue there is deliberate deceit certainly.
Listening to Biden continually stumbling over his words and mumbling into the microphone in front doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence. The days when the USA were considered to be the leaders of the free world have gone, and I don’t think we would have been in this position had Trump still been in residence at the White House. To be honest were the Americans necessarily the leaders of the free world the Second World War, I think not. They didn’t the fight against Nazi Germany until 1941, and were quite content for this country to lead the way until they themselves were attacked by the Japanese at Pearl Barbour, and they were also late on joining the fray during the First World War. I was however glad to hear from Biden that American troops would not be deployed in Ukraine, and other American commentators have said that it is unlikely that American forces would be deployed even if the Baltic States should they be attacked by Russia in the future. The present situation in which we find ourselves is partially the fault of both our government, the European Union and NATO by their combined intransigence over meeting Putin’s demands to de-militarise Ukraine in that it would never be accepted into NATO or the EU. Whilst Johnson went overboard yesterday by announcing a number of sanctions which are likely to be as harmful to the UK as the intended target of Russia, this is unlikely to be backed up member states of the European Union as we have seen today. When will politicians in this country realise that Britain is not the super power that it was and no longer has the ability to police the world. And as for Johnson hinting in his speech yesterday that Putin may have to be defeated militarily, I ask with what? He and successive Conservative governments have severely depleted our armed forces to the extent that the Army numbers less than 80,000, and the number of surface ships of the Royal Navy is less than 20. As per usual his speech in the House of Commons yesterday was cloud cuckoo land material.
I came across a programme showing a clip of anonymous black-clad riot police in the street roughly arresting protesters and thought it was another report from Ottawa. Only when their jacket logo came into focus as Cyrillic did I realise it was Moscow and the people were protesting the war in Ukraine – not an image of Russia we often see. The commentary condemned it as brutality. Yes they were rough but nothing like Trudeau’s storm troops meted out. And we were told protesters have been warned of consequences – again like Trudeau.
Elsewhere a character analysis of Putin labelled him a psychopath. No one has analysed Trudeau or Ardern, let alone label them psychopaths, for identical behaviour. Nor sadly-omicron-did-our-job-without-the-side-effects-Gates or “we-have-penetrated-zere-cabinets”-Schwab for that matter. I mean they only want the world unlike Putin who wants just a small part of it.
And just as the virus, jab and reset narratives are being exposed and crumbling, through data and hugely credible whistle blowers such as Ed Dowd (ex-Black Rock) and Leslie Manookian (ex-Golden Sacks), we have, as a commenter on TCW put it: Oh look… Ukraine! Or as our esteemed editor prefers ‘a squirrel’ – a large and serious squirrel but a squirrel none the less.
Yes, a big fat squirrel: nobody is talking about covid any longer, never mind about the ’cause of covid’.
As for Putin: the Germans have that nice word ‘Putinversteher’ literally translated as ‘Understanders of Putin’, used to label those who vaguely defended his actions as ‘Russian trolls’. That was before this war. Now our MSM are heaving with another sort of ‘Putinversteher’, namely all hacks – and there is a lot of them now! -who purport to have special psychological insight and are now clear that he’s mad, bad, ill and should be put out of his misery.
How times change!
Alex Thompson on Wednesday’s UK Column, said Putin’s speech was nothing like it has been portrayed.
Given that The West,
* facilitated regime change, a violent coup, in Ukraine in 2014,
* and that Ukraine refuse to ratify the ensuing Minsk Peace Accords,
* conducted a blitzkrieg against the Donbas,
* outlawed the Russian language spoken by many in the Donbas and Crimea,
* but legalised discrimination against ethnic Russians,
* outlawed Russian opposition parties,
* and continued shelling the 4 million peoples of the Donbas,
given all that, nothing in Putin’s stated objectives was against international law.
Ukraine was by no standards a democracy and was run by deeply corrupt politicians (Biden and his son’s deals evidence that) and gangsters.
And talking of corruption, knowing what was about to happen and whilst condemning Putin in public and threatening sanctions, the day before Russia went in, the US bought $700m of commodities from them!
Is Putin party to the conspiracy of the elite against us the peoples of the world, and the smoke and mirrors?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/order-out-chaos-how-ukraine-conflict-designed-benefit-globalists
Excellent report Viv.
Thanks, Jake!
“It means finding alternative sources of energy to Russian oil and gas.”
Perhaps we should be looking under the North Sea. You never know there might be something there we could extract. Or, say, under Lancashire; I hear the geology is promising. If we find something we could even, as Richard Tice does, call it the hidden treasure under our feet.
But the omens are not good. Even amongst all the bluster in the Commons, mistaken for strong decisive leadership, Boris responded to Steve Bakers’ sensible question, about energy supply and security, saying, “…thank the honourable gentleman for his question… waffle, waffle… and we are helping the Baltic states to go further and faster with renewable technology.” Great. That’s sorted then.
The question was about us not the Baltics, and double nothing when the wind doesn’t blow is still nothing. Jo Nova didn’t Christen them ‘ruinables’ for nothing. Come to think of it they ARE ruinables for nothing.
Well said Phil O’S at 9.50 am !!
“Putin’s “Nazi” rhetoric reveals his terrifying war aims in Ukraine”
https://www.vox.com/2022/2/24/22948944/putin-ukraine-nazi-russia-speech-declare-war
Putin’s Nazi rhetoric has been reported from a variety of sources, not just the one above, they’re all behind the curve however. This publication very bravely (Viv) published a number of articles over the years that talked about Nazis and Neo Nazis, written by a certain author, they seemed outrageous at the time but all will be revealed.