Summary written by Hugh Moelwyn Hughes
(with apologies to those who have not been fully quoted)
The meeting was well attended. There were apologies and messages of support from 15 others. The Chairman of the Meeting David Rowlands welcomed those present.
A one minute silence was held in memory of the late Stan Edwards.
“We may start small, but we can grow, as did UKIP, to the point where 4 Million voted for UKIP. We must be seen on the streets as Libertarians, not as a Party. Climate Change activists are inaccurate in attributing warming to CO2. In Roman times vines grew at Newcastle, in Victorian times the Thames froze over, and neither happened because of CO2.
The British Empire was the most beneficial Empire of all. We are not standing on the shoulders of black slaves, but on the hardship of many – the children who were sent up chimneys, or down the mines, or into cotton mills. Most people had appalling lives, which were improved by the Classical Liberal reforms of the 19th Century, leading to equality. But now, as a white heterosexual male, I am the lowest in the pecking order. We should all be equal. One of our aims is to see our people appointed to NGOs.”
The convenor, Hugh Moelwyn Hughes, outlined the proposed purpose of the Free Libertarians (separately reported here).
As in previous UKIP meetings, everyone wanted to speak. Here are their suggestions for future consideration:
KE: Is there a view on stripping us of our basic freedoms, using corona virus to lead to identity cards, digital currency and total surveillance and control ?
IW: People got covid from care homes and hospitals
DJR: Deaths from Covid Virus were exaggerated. There were incentives for doctors to put Covid on Death Certificates. Probably only 68,000 died from Covid
MF: Wales had the highest death rate from Covid in the UK. A friend dealing with the death of a relative was told by the doctor “if I can put Covid down it will be easier for you”.
LN: It is appalling to vaccinate children without parental consent.
Ian Williams said: The Labour Party has 50% of the seats in the Welsh Assembly. They are now proposing changes to the voting system designed to keep them in power. They claim high employment levels in Wales, but this is because of employment in the Public Sector and in the Third Sector. Powers should be devolved to the Regions [cf Counties], and there should be a Referendum on keeping the Welsh Assembly. I have plans to field several candidates in the Council Elections next May [details redacted].
GH: I will pledge £500 towards your campaign.
LN: Immigration should end
DJR: In the last decade we have had 10 million immigrants.
GN: Senior appointments in the Police now go to the woke.
GH: Defunding the BBC is not enough. It should be privatised.
Hugh Moelwyn Hughes proposed:
- That we form a Voluntary Association in South Wales East with the aim of extricating the UK completely from the European Union, upholding the integrity of the United Kingdom and re-affirming the Libertarian Tradition of Free Trade, Low Regulation, Low Tax, Freedom of Association, Free Enterprise, and Free Speech;
- Opposing the new fascism of Woke Ideology by re-asserting that there are only 2 sexes, not 47 genders;
- Abolishing the Equality Act which promotes chosen categories of people and downgrades white people, males, and heterosexuals;
- De-funding the BBC and de-politicising the Arts Council and other quangos;
- Ending “no-platforming”, diversity training and the use of Critical Race Theory;
- Promoting co-operation between all Libertarian Parties by meeting regularly to discuss other policies which might be adopted by our Association, to decide which campaigns we should promote and support, and to consider how to meet those objectives
These proposals were approved nem.con. [Ed: ‘without dissent’, unanimously]
The meeting decided:
* That the following be appointed until the first Annual General Meeting: Chairman – David John Rowlands, Secretary – Greg Lewis, Treasurer – Mike Ford, Convenor – Hugh Moelwyn Hughes
* That the temporary title of Free Libertarians shall apply until decided otherwise (presently scheduled for decision on Thursday 2nd December 2021);
* That the Members of the South Wales East Association comprise those attending this meeting, and other applicants all of whom who reside in South Wales East.
The next meeting will take place at the Kings Head Hotel, Usk, on Tuesday 5th October 2021 at 7pm.
We welcome supporters from other areas
I suspect destined for the same place as GBN, due to poor directors and direction already showing
I hope I’m wrong.
“Re-asserting there are only two sexes……………”
What happened to hermaphrodites have they stopped being born?
I dont know enough to say if they qualify as both sexes. And Annie Oakley is the only one I have heard of.
That aside, and the other twenty or thirty sexes. . . . ?
Sorry Biscotte never heard of them before and couldn’t contemplate what combination of features each offered.
Are you telling me 5 year olds have this choice, I’m not looking forward to my approaching second childhood,if I am forced to make such a choice then
Roger –
There are two sexes (full stop).
Annie Oakley (a famour trick shooter of the past, thought of in life as a woman) is the only hermaphrodite I have heard of.
That aside, and the other twenty or thirty sexes. . . . ? (What are they? They dont exist. Got it. They don’t exist).
I shall try to improve my grammar to avoid being chastised by others seemingly offended by obvious misconstured comments.
Ah you are only jealous, I found Port Harcourt before you
And
Burutu, Warri and Sapele
Were you with those who went around dropping depth charges, supposedly looking for oil, but stunning all the catfish for miles around.
Is that ALL you could nitpick?
NB: Must try harder.
No I was, I thought being a bit ironic Michael, but if you want me to pick a more substantial nit I will do.
It all sounds so goody- goody and aaawfully high minded, nice and definitely non-PC, that I for one am already bored to death.
To my way of thinking the only solution is REVOLUTION! Full blooded smack em in the face, punch em in the guts, kick ’em in the goolies sort of thing.
It’s all part of this .”start local” business in other threads. That’s a,right for a 10/15 year stint, but we are being misgoverned and oppressed and being robbed of our individual liberty NOW and it starts from the top down.
This many headed hydra must be SLAIN
As I postulated before we must learn a lesson from Afghanistan take over by trick or whatever of the Taliban.
While I am not advocating aping the Taliban, we are going to have to learn to fight dirty, tooth and nail.
And FIGHT BACK has to start NOW, before I and I suspect many other aged non – apathy engrained; go to the promised land.
We have to get up off our knee(sorry knees) and get rid of this plea fostered by such as Cleggy “that we are not good enough”
It doesn’t pay to be nice or squeaky clean
Pauline – convene your own meeting for your own area. Let’s get this on a roll under Hugh’s wise guidance.
I am currently working on setting a group up in Surrey
Good for you Helena but don’t tell me what to do.
I like it. Best of luck from many miles away.