Yesterday politicians were littering the Sunday TV shows. Just as some think Twitter is where on ‘does’ politics, others think that Sunday telly is the best way of getting their point across. I’ve not watched any of this, but our lovely MSM are happy to provide us with video clips and quotes. One was actually rather profound, but way above the paygrade of the Remain TV presenter. I’ll come to that later. Meanwhile a certain Mr Blair was touting his 2nd Referendum as best solution in a German Paper … words fail me …!
Ms May and her colleagues were of course yesterday busy as well, and thus the Nation woke up to a headline (paywalled) in the DT (also picked up by the DM) which is a stunner:
Exclusive: Theresa May mulls amending Good Friday Agreement to get her Brexit deal past MPs:
“One of the proposals under consideration is rewriting the 1998 accord to assure Ireland that the UK is committed to no hard border on the island after the UK leaves the European Union in March. Ministers believe that adding some text into the agreement would serve as a way of avoiding having to commit the UK to the backstop. The plan is likely to prove highly controversial and would require the consent of all the parties involved in Northern Ireland. Senior EU sources said it was a non starter while even UK Government sources were “sceptical” that it would work. The fact it is even being considered underlines the political crisis now facing the Prime Minister.” (my bold)
Just so – and one wonders who ‘counselled’ Ms May that this was an option. There’s more:
“On Sunday night, Mrs May held a conference phone call with her Cabinet. One Cabinet minister said the outcome of the call was “essentially one more heave on the backstop. Mrs May is said to have told them her plan was to do “something” on the backstop. Asked if it was something specific or just “anything”, she is said to have told them “the latter”.
This is obviously born out of sheer desperation, the desperation being caused by Ms May having to present her ‘Plan B’ today in Parliament when the various wrecking amendments will also be presented. She surely cannot be seriously thinking that this would get her WA through Parliament! One would like to know if her Whitehall handler, Olly Robbins, gave her this advice …
Here’s more:
“But The Daily Telegraph understands one plan would see the UK and Ireland agree a separate set of principles, or add text to “support or reference” the 1998 peace deal, setting how both sides will guarantee an open border after Brexit. One source said this form of high level agreement would be “a way to reinforce trust with the Irish to give them something more tangible so we can stick to our commitments”.
The Times (paywalled) also reports on ‘May’s Mullings’. Obviously some of those taking part in that conference call were happy to leak it all over the MSM. We ought to be grateful for this, even though it illustrates the breakdown of May’s government: discipline has gone out of the window and it’s every man for himself … The impression of a floundering PM is disquieting.
Our ‘friends’ in the EU are of course aghast. This is the first reaction, reported by the DT’s Brussels correspondent:
“As they say in Brussels, when it comes to trade, customs and regulations, this is “not just Ireland’s border”, it is an EU external border (or will be after Brexit) and it is the EU that has the ‘competence’ to police it.The idea that the other 26 EU member states and the European Commission will allow London and Dublin to simply codify a ‘no infrastructure’ agreement amongst themselves and then ‘drop the backstop’ is, to quote one senior EU official briefed on the idea, “insane”.
Not insane, but desperate. Boris Johnson in his column in the DT starts with the observation that the Backstop must go. Writing about the parliamentary machinations of wreckers, he makes three points which our Remainers, be they MPs, be they MSM writers, would do well to heed:
“The first is that this country must leave the EU, by law, on March 29. That was not just what the people voted for in 2016; it was what Parliament voted for overwhelmingly. […] If we are now so feeble as to say to the British people that we can no longer go through with this, and that we must delay or extend Article 50, I believe that the reaction would be a vicious and unparalleled contempt for the whole political class; and the same point should be made to anyone so fatuous as to suggest that the answer is a general election.” (my bold)
Exactly. He continues:
“The second giant fact is that the Prime Minister’s deal has been not just thrown out, but kicked into orbit – rejected by the biggest margin in parliamentary history. It is an ex-deal. It is dead, defunct, deceased. It has shuffled off this mortal coil and gone to the great Valhalla of irrelevant and superseded international agreements […] It will never get through Parliament because it is fundamentally anti-democratic, and would mean that the UK would come out of the EU but end up being very largely run by the EU – unless we were willing to surrender control of Northern Ireland, which no British government could, would or should even contemplate.” (my bold)
BoJo hammers this home with his third point:
“The deal is not capable of getting through: keep that in your head, and then focus on the third giant fact, which is that the answer does not lie in Parliament, but in Brussels. In so far as it is necessary to do a deal to leave the EU, that deal cannot be done with our legislators – mighty though they be. The relationship is with the other 27 countries.” (my bold)
The most important point is the first one: if Brexit is prevented by Parliament, then the consequences for the contract between us, the people, the sovereign, and our elected representatives thwarting our will are going to be dire.
Yesterday I wrote about the groundswell of opposition by Tory members, while Labour is reported to have lost 150,000 members – something which the Labour Party denies … One gets the impression that our ‘betters’ in the HoC, the MSM and Whitehall are in denial, that they are not reading the signs and believe that something similar to the ‘Gilets Jaunes’ couldn’t possibly happen here. Well, to be fair, our MSM are busily not reporting much on that. However, the IMF of all entities has a stark warning (see here). While they are concerned about there not being enough money to shore up the banks in a recession given the protests, this point is well made:
“Anger in countries such as the US, France and Britain could make the next global downturn far worse, according to the International Monetary Fund. It is concerned that global organisations and national governments are no longer seen as being on the side of the people.”
Just so!
As promised, here’s the quote. It’s from yesterday’s Marr show. Note that it’s no longer about a ’meaningful’ vote but about an ‘indicative’ one – whatever that’s supposed to mean:
“[…] when questioned by BBC host Andrew Marr on the possibility of Parliament to hold “indicative votes” on the various Brexit outcomes proposed by MPs for the Government to implement, Dr Fox responded with a crucial question defining the key role of Government.He said: “And what if Parliament, which is a Remain Parliament let’s remember, was to pass a motion that effectively stopped us leaving the European Union? Is the Government in this country the servant of Parliament or is it the servant of the people?” The question left Mr Marr speechless […]” (my bold)
Our MPs and the rest of the MSM are of course equally speechless!
In their minds, we are the servants … it’s time to show them we aren’t!
See link below from 1975 – Oxbridge union debate – Peter Shore totally blows them all away. This is one of the finest speeches I have ever listened to regarding the betrayal of our country by Heath and subsequently LibLabCon to the EEC/EU project. He was right on the button then and the arguments still stand today.
What’s shocking is the scale of our trade deficit today compared to what Shore had to say back then. We pay the EU c.£10bn net p.a. for them to run a £90bn trade surplus and have jurisdiction over a great deal of our laws – complete and utter madness!
Indeed. Also to be noted is the sheer quality of the overall debate, and the integrity all the speakers.
Today we are cursed by our current government and opposition and we all deserve better. We will only get better government if we have some radical change.
No Deal offers us that radical change which is precisely why the Westminster crew will cling on with their own interpretation of Brexit until they are prised out of their seats.
Brexit is now a long game, a long war in fact … and one that most certainly will not be over by Christmas.
Ah , Oxford 1975 ! Oh les Beaux Jours ! I remember proudly displaying my ‘VOTE NO ! ‘ Poster in the window of my student hovel in St John Street, not far from the Union.
I was always a fan of Peter Shore – saw no contradiction between fighting for the rights of the working men and women and standing up for the UK – unlike all the extreme Remainists of today’s Labour Party.
A great loss to UK politics when he died very young.
Thank you John for that; if only we had a politician like Peter Shore leading the government today. One satisfying thing was seeing Heath smirking at first then looking TPO.
UKIP has been ready and waiting. We have the plan, the moral compass and the ability. But no one is listening. Nigel Farage is out to destroy us because he wants the accolade of success when we leave the EU. He cannot bear the thought that Gerard might be the man who walks into parliament. Tommy Robinson, in my opinion, will bring thousands of ignored voters with him. Wouldn’t that be a sight for sore eyes to see To my also walk into parliament. He would deserve it.
However, we can on.y dream whilst so many Remainers and Brexiteers shut their eyes and fudge their way threw what is actually a very simple solution. UKIP!!!!!
Here’s the thing Angela : the connection between the Leader of UKIP and S Y-L has been established for so long in the public mind now that – if that gentleman really was going to ‘ bring thousands of ignored voters with him ‘ that we would have seen some evidence of such in either the opinion polls or the actual , council by – election polls ?
I understand that in these we hover at around 3% ??
You’re quite right, Viv, in saying the compact between the people and their representatives in Parliament has been destroyed by Brexit and I very much regret that, but the question all along has been: “What are we going to do about it?”
We need, in a nutshell, leadership, from whom, from which party, from which individual is not clear – and doesn’t really matter much, as long as somebody tells us what needs to be done. This is not something that can be done by any individual – whatever is to be done needs organising.
We don’t have the support of the MSM – that is split not necessarily along party lines but between the Brexiteers and the Remainers, both of which insist their opinion is the right one and is shared by the majority of the populace. They can’t both be right!
So who is going to lead us? That’s the big question. Anyone any ideas?
Do we need ‘A Leader’? Why can’t we do it ourselves, with lots of local ‘leaders’ around whom Brexiteers can coalesce? A British Salvini might eventually emerge …
Go on then, Viv!
Debbie
There is, or was, one party that could have used its “exit the EU” policy to counter the demise of democracy in the UK. Does any one have Tommy Robinson’s e-mail address so that I can ask TR to suggest to a party leader of a declining party that it reactivates itself. The only alternative is to ask Nigel Farage to lead the fight for saving British Democracy.
D.Turgoose
Yes Nigel Farage is the only person that can be trusted and is capable of leading the fight for saving British Democracy.
Debbie, I don’t think that “the compact between the people and their representatives in Parliament” has been destroyed by Brexit. I think that it has been missing for a very long time. We need to put them back in their place.
As for the Remainers they surely cannot understand the intent behind the EU but simply accept the words of Cameron et al. or maybe the indoctination of the younger ones during their education has been successful. My sister is an example of the former. She will simply not listen to any argument against the EU nor will she research the issue herself.
Leadership is one aspect that is clearly missing but we also need a well thought through campaign; a war plan if you like.
Yes, Jack, leadership is missing and I agree with you that we need a good campaign. But I was expecting the two to go hand in hand – that the leader would provide a plan.
snap
Different skill sets I think, leaders often don’t have or don’t want to get involved with detail.
When you look for a leader You want him tall and an actor. .It’s ok if he’s thick as a plank as long as heremembers his lines . Being an actor he’ll know how to deal with his audience..He’ll need help. and rules. No interviews. etc. He ‘s above all that vulgar stuff.
Absolutely. Totally different and you cannot teach them, they have to be learned. Either instinctively or from experience, However , ‘ young ‘ gives a lot of forgiveness, not enough but a lot and some time to learn. Nigel had 20 odd years to learn a bit at a time. He’s probably still got a lot of it. But he’s a rubbish manager.
We have in place a very able leader in one Battler for Britain Batten , what is your problem with that Debbie ?
The MSM are in total eu assets, the broken biscuit co is eu funded, everyone who wants to know , does know these are facts.
We work around it, and progress, that is ,go forward.
I’m sure Gerard is a good leader, Ogga, but he has failed to increase the visibility of the party. Perhaps this is the fault of his PR team, I don’t know, but if it is, he’s got the wrong people on his team.
I understand he has been invited on to several radio and television shows and has declined the invitations. How else would he Battle for Britain except but by talking up the party and the country in pubic? Even now, the ‘breaking news’ on the party’s website is ‘UKIP leader photographed with Remainer Extremist’ and that has been the headline for several days. I mean … boring or what??!!
When the media want a quote they go to ‘former UKIP leader’ Nigel Farage in the sure and certain knowledge that he will give the something worth publishing. They’re not interested in mediocrities but are after sensationalism and I’m afraid, nice as he is, Gerard is simply not fiery enough.
Listen to this, from 10.30 . The Guardian’s Peter Walker spoke to Kris Hicks and asked him why The Guardian was on Gerard’s now-infamous ‘banned list’ – broadcasters or publications Gerard will not talk to – ( there are many )
His reply …. “he didn’t know”
£70000 a year ? ……… OOOPS
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/audio/2019/jan/22/how-ukip-embraced-the-far-right-podcast
There really shouldn’t be any media that Gerard won’t talk to. Perhaps this is because in the past his words have been mis-edited or taken out of context, but if he feels uncomfortable speaking directly to any broadcaster or publication, then he, or his press officer, should offer them a statement. There is no way a written statement can be misreported, and if it is, the original can be produced to show that the fault lay with the broadcaster/publisher rather than the commenter.
Any competent journalist should be able to whistle up a comment on any subject in five minutes flat, get it approved by Gerard five minutes later and let the media have it after another five minutes. Yes, of course, time is of the essence and you can’t have a press release lying about for days on end before being distributed. There’s a reason it’s called news – it’s because it’s ‘new’.
And even if the media don’t ask for a comment, the idea is that the public relations officer proactively offers the boss’ opinion on ANY matter in the news – and we all know how much Brexit news there is at the moment. Is the communications office sending out a few dozen press comments every day? Of course the media won’t use them all, but they could use the occasional comment and they certainly won’t report Gerard’s words if they haven’t been handed them on a plate.
Surely at £70kpa Hicks should know this and be on duty 24/7, and if he’s not, he should arrange for someone else to take press calls any time of the day or night.